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2 hours ago, SteveAJones said:
Happy 60th Birthday to Led Zeppelin chronicler Dave Lewis.
here here
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Ridiculously good weather here in BrisVegas. In fact, winter was barely a month overall this year. Was tshirt and shorts in the yard 1 weekend after winter solstice. Crazy.
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Led Zeppelin – 1979/07/24 @ Falconer Salen, Copenhagen, Denmark
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13 hours ago, porgie66 said:
Yawn, another tepid reissue/remaster hyped as a " holy grail" from our beloved Page and Co. Hopefully the remaster isn't the common denominator friendly mash compressed for Beats and I-phones. If the mastering isn't significantly better than the Empress Valley BBC box set then I don't see myself getting this anytime soon. If I do succumb to the inevitable jones to have the latest release then I think I would most likely re-arrange the bonus tracks to align in proper order with their respective shows. Haven't done the math for the timing but I assume they put the extras on a 3rd disc because to put them in proper sequence they would need 4 discs. ?? At any rate, this release will help offset the $800K in legal fees that a judge denied in a recoup attempt by Page and Warner/Chappel. It was a BS lawsuit but ...LOL.
I wonder why, with all the multitude of board tapes out there that have been released ,Zep don't release any more live material officially? Is it because multi-tracks don't exist? There must be some shows that were recorded to multi track or even two track, not just house or monitor feeds. I'm sure there are some serious experts in this area who are knowledgable about Zep's live recording methods. Board feeds were (most likely) done straight to tape, correct? I mean, even a raw remaster of a decent soundboard released officially would be snatched up by real fans. WTF? Just one!?? This was done with Miles Davis bootleg series recently to great effect. Is it perhaps because Plant's voice was embarrassingly bad after 1972? Or Page's playing was so sloppy after 1973? Despite these faults, no rock band came close to the improvisatory brilliance and fire of Zep live. I guess true fans have to cherish the bootlegs because all we keep getting with these reissues is nothing new, except for a few unreleased tracks and alternate mixes. The first album reissue was the most promising to me because it featured a live show as the bonus disc. How great would it have been to have a corresponding era live show as a bonus to each studio album?! I know, keep dreaming.
Still, by now there should at least be an officially released complete Knebworth !!
YES!!! It really is surprising there have not been more live releases. I still think there will be. I have asked before on here, whats in the vault, what is possible. At the end of the day, the idea of a live chronological release must be possible as it was Page himself that talked about this. So eventually, I still believe there will be a "this is it!" FINAL CHAPTER live release that is THE LAST official Zeppelin release that will be a killer package with bonus disk editions, extra's in deluxe sets, etc. And that will be IT.
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Ten Years Gone.
The Rain Song.
Down by the Seaside.
Nothing new, all been listed, but they're definitely mine. All pure magic.
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3 hours ago, sixpense said:
I don't know Akhil Sood personally but reading this article makes me think he is a horrible person.
Yes, that was the one line that stuck the most. While overall it was interesting enough to read the whole post, a hearty "well get stuffed then" was the concluding feeling I got from the snide undertone.
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Lack of video, but not so much as there is some stuff out there and the DVD's.
Mostly though, the vids do not show enough of Bonham when he is rampaging through a particularly tasty fill or JPJ pretty much at all!
Most annoying on that point - in WLL off TSRTS, there is a baseline run that speeds up and goes up a gear, and the fact no mofo thought to capture that moment in particular, especially since they wern't capturing a lot of him, so why not at least that!
at around the 3:12 - but pretty much the bass through that section: "hey guys, hear that cracking good underlying bass? How about you get AT LEAST ONE SHOT of it?!?!?!?!" Someone should have said!
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3 hours ago, Strider said: Say what? You mean 1973?
Yes. 1973. Typo.
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"That was somethin' off the third album which we will play, as long as we're in existence....."
Unsurprising Plantation after one of the best SIBLY of the tour (at least that I have heard).
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down - 1975-05-13
Ridiculously good quality too.
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13 hours ago, Wolfman said:
Rather Jimmy go on tour.
Between this specific release and tour - for sure, TOUR!! (although I am still excited and can't wait for this release)
If it was a choice between more releases and a tour - releases of '75 and '77 concerts, maybe some real gems that no soundboards exist for or the most amazeballs shows of specific tours that JP has in the vault, I'd take Zep releases. I'd pay damn good money to see Page if/when he does tour, but if a choice, releases!!!!!
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2 hours ago, Ddladner said:
"oh look, it's Taurus".
hahahaha -- Said no one by mistake EVER.
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10 hours ago, juxtiphi said:
Yes, The technicality in question is the fact that Stairway and Taurus are not the same.
PURE GOLD!!!!
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Short of an appeal and more bullshit, Spirit, and Taurus will slide back to obscurity with maybe the very occasional footnote about how once there was a case with one of their seldom heard songs sounding something like the start to Stairway.
Thing is, when you listen to them, they are just not the same. Generally, a million things are similar to bits of songs. Not much is the same.
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Relaxing @ home with family. Housework, and building a Ubuntu server with son to gear up for Raspberry-Pi MAME project.
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Jason Bonham.
Surely first in line to the Zeppelin Throne. When all members shuffle off this mortal coil, me thinks he will be the keeper of the seasons.
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6 hours ago, DogsoverLava said:
This just tells me that your opinion here is of very little value. If you've ever been in a band, or a touring band - you'd have the experience of having worked out all kinds of Jams and riffs that turned out to be existing songs --- A jam based on a riff is very easy to spontaneously create without knowing it already existed --- almost every single musician can tell you about the experience of working up things only to find out after the fact that there's a very similar or at times almost exactly the same song/riff/groove already out there. It's so common that I know world famous musicians that have had to scrap whole recordings after someone walked into a session and said - "hey - this song sounds like ______" -- I've literally seen them walk away from completed master tapes of finished material. It happens in music - it happens in comedy with jokes -- it happens in art/photography..... it happens -- it's the very nature of the creative process.
That liability is always present in the creative process.
It is true that our brains absorbs stuff unconsciously -- sometimes we hear stuff without knowing we've heard it so when it comes out in a jam (and you get that rush of excitement of having spontaneously created something cool) we are not aware that what we thought was a spontaneous creation actually was influenced by something rattling around in the unconscious. But isn't that the nature of creativity itself? Isn't that the nature of all creativity? --- That it's a derivative in some way of our experience in the world?
That's why the implications of this case are so wide ranging and fraught with real jeopardy -- because almost everything is a tiny bit derivative. Knowing that this motif has been used time and time again doesn't diminish Stairway or make it less creative -- it makes it part of a creative tradition -- in some ways it proves and validates it's originality because it is precisely a product of the creative process itself -- which is fully dialogic.
Anyway -- just some thoughts and maybe something to help you get beyond the idea that JPJ's claims or Jimmy's claims are far fetched here.
That was a good read.
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8 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:
He can say it now, but there's evidence that he was well aware of Spirit's music around the time he wrote STH. By denying such knowledge, he either comes across as evasive, or his recollection of other, non-Spirit influences can be called into question. The time to acknowledge Spirit while simultaneously denying particular influence by Taurus was at the very beginning. This would have undercut much of the plaintiff's claims. Unfortunately Jimmy's incompetent lawyer hasn't advised him appropriately.
He need not lie. He may have been aware of that song along with other songs that had accoustic processions that are of a like. And the structure itself, the idea of something gentle and climbing, based on classical and WELL used ideas around that kind of structure, was what inspired JP to play with his own ideas on similar themes. Nothing at all to do with lifting songs or parts of songs. Taurus is simply NOT the same.
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When asked, Jimmy can easily and probably completely honestly say...
Yeah, I might have heard Taurus, not really sure, it didn't stick with me or inspire me obviously. What did was the masterful work of classical writers that had similar structures, which is where the inspiration is from. And it is inspiration, not a copy. I have not copied anything, I liked the climb structure in classical music, played with my own ideas, and the stairway opening took shape.
...or something else entirely that like I said, will be completely honest, and will bolster their argument.
While a jury can indeed be unpredictable, good planning and a good lawyer should see this case dispatched to the footnotes of history.
Say what? You mean 1973?
Atlanta 1977 Show
in Led Zeppelin Live
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The older I get, the more I have to look up all those damn abbreviations of Zep songs. I hate it.