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I also have an unnatural tolerance for ELO as well, what can I say.
Showdown, Can't Get It Out Of My Head, Livin' Thing, Telephone Line, Don't Bring Me Down stand out.
Shutting up now...
Speaking of an ELO type prog band, anyone have any recommendations on Supertramp, specifically the album Crime of the Century?
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I don't get this talk of comparing blues to progressive rock.
Jazz, as an art form provides more inspiration, in my informed opinion, for 90% of progressive rock bands.
I see Jazz Fusion inspired rock more as a progression from late Miles Davis than any snobbish racism aimed at blues and blues fusion groups, such as Led Zeppelin.
You only have to look at The Mahavishnu Orchestra for proof that Jazz influences "progressive" music.
Also, check out these Swedish prog rock bands from the 90s, they take inspiration from bands like Yes and King Crimson.
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Yeah the names are similar, maybe because the bands are similar.
All of your jazz fusion artists (Miles Davis, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Traffic, Chicago......) all contributed to the development of rock. As much as blues and 'simple' punk rock did.
I have a punk rock album as my avatar and a tribute to a prog band in my signature. both shaped rock as much as the other.
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Not sure if I think they all belong in the HoF but I'm a big fan of King Crimson and early Genesis. I like some prog rock but I'm a bit more picky about it.
I'm not sure if you've heard of them, but Gentle Giant is a prog band along the lines of King Crimson and early Genesis. They're actually a combination of both, in a way. Check them out if you can.
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Are you kidding me, By-Tor and the Snow Dog, 2112, Xanadu, are all songs that i would rank alongside anyone else for being termed "Spectacular", much more so than anything AC/DC did. And you dont need hits, just good songs. IMHO.
Regards, Danny
I agree, and I should have used 'good songs' rather then 'hits'. It's a grammar error on my part.
If I had to rank the chances of a prog band going the RNRHOF......
1. Rush
2. Yes
3. Genesis
4. King Crimson
5. The Moody Blues
wild card: ELP
in terms of who deserves to go in...
1. King Crimson
2. Genesis
3. Yes
4. Rush
5. ELP
wild card: Procol Harum
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"Rush" Thats the only thing i would disagree with you about, Rush did many "Spectacular" songs from their first album "Rush" in 1974 to "Moving Pictures" in 1981, after that i have trouble distinguishing one album from another, but a real favourite of mine.
Regards, Danny
When I said Rush didn't doing anything spectacular, I didn't mean they did anything bad. But you put them against the other Rock bands, they had hits, just not earth shattering hits, pretty much like AC/DC.
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I'm not sure if Pink Floyd would be described as "progressive rock" but haven't they already been inducted into the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame?
I would call Pink Floyd a Prog band, and I agree they are the exception to the RNRHOF rule. But you look at a Prog band and their criteria is almost the same as a band in the RNRHOF. From what I have read, a combination of influence and success is the key to the RNR, unless your influence is so great, you don't need success.
Genesis (produced 2 huge solo acts and had mainstream success; ie The Yardbirds)
Yes (had mainstream success before they "sold out" in the 80's and had even more success)
King Crimson (the original prog rock band, hugely influential even without mainstream success; ie The Velvet Underground).
ELP (the ultimate prog supergroup, not very influential, but the collection of names is enough to get them in; ie CSN & sometimes Y)
Even a band like Procol Harum, who had a well respected artist in Robin Trower and a HUGE hit in "A Whiter Shade of Pale" are not in (ie Traffic and the Righteous Brothers )
Rush would be like AC/DC, a band that didn't really do anything spectacular but had influence and consistent success.
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There have threads about different, specific bands and I just figured there should be one for the genre itself. This is for all discussions about all bands and all "attempts" at progressive rock/art rock/fusion. I guess talk about your favorites, recommendations. Even for those who dislike the genre, I would love to hear you as well. We can even go into the Rock and Roll HOF's hate for Prog........
Let get started.... in 21/8 time!
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Fnnarr fnnaarr.....oh God I love childish innuendos.....
wow.... I totally missed that the first time I wrote that
what a totally unintentionally funny thread!
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That's pretty good
I'll see your Fanny and raise you Frumpy
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I got into Peter Green only within the last year. I've got Supernatural, End of the Game and a Best Of. I don't own any early Fleetwood Mac though what I've heard I've liked a lot. It's on the endless list of things to get! But I think the albums Fleetwood Mac and Rumours are fantastic albums. After Rumours they got a bit too pop for me.
They did, but I really liked the song Tusk on the next album. Adding the marching band was a nice touch and not something you would expect from a band with the mainstream audience they were targeting.
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yeah... I was totally lazy to not look back 6 pages to already find a thriving Fleetwood Mac thread....
But yeah, I have been getting into the early stuff with Peter Green. All I have is a live album (I'm not 100% sure if its a boot or not, but its Rattlesnake Shake- Live in Boston) That's all I have, I would love to hear some more live and the studio albums. If anyone is interested in a trade....
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A beautiful low 70's with crystal clear skies
a rare sight in Rochester, NY
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I'm sure someone has mentioned it in this thread somewhere, but I was really impressed by the new Fireman album Electric Arguments
It blew me away that Paul McCartney was on this album and I didn't really know what to expect. But, its got a great range of styles, ranging from blues rock, to U2-esque pop, little but of tecnho/electronica and folk. It's a brilliant album, even if it runs a little long at 68 minutes. It's worth checking out and even if you don't like the whole album, there should be a song that gets your attention.
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I find it interessting to see Eric Clapton only mentioned once out of all the lists on here...
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Guitarists: (on ability)
1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Jimmy Page
3. Allen Holdsworth
4. Carlos Santana
5. Eddie Hazel (just listen to Maggot Brain!!!)
just missed the cut: Wayne Kramer/Fred "Sonic" Smith
whose overrated: Eddie Van Halen
Drummers: (on ability)
1. John Bonham
2. Ginger Baker
3. Bill Bruford
4. Neil Peart
5. John Densmore (the best of the "minimalist" drummers)
just missed the cut: Carmine Appice
whose overratted: Keith Moon
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they said they didnt see anything wrong physically with big brown... so who knows, but its one more year to the drought...
lets get a time machine, bring back Secretariat and get all the horse jacked up on steriods or who are genetically engineered... and put them in a race
and watch Secretariat beat them by 31 lenghts... again
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its been a while.. but its time to dust off the cobwebs and dust
I just bought Larks' Tounges in Aspic and Starless and Bible Black
ill keep this short... Larks' Tounges in Aspic (Part 1) proves to me once and for all that Robert Fripp is a musical genius
everything else was amazing off of those two albums... and now I'll wait for the chance to get Islands, and have the first phase of King Crimson to enjoy for the time being
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I watched Kick Out the Jams, Rambling Rose and Looking at You. They were all excellent.
I also watched a long version of Louie, Louie recorded in Stockholm in the early 70's. It was horrible and according to some of the comments, Wayne Kramer admitted being drunk during the performance.
Did you know Handsome Dick Manitoba from The Dictators is currently touring with them (at least the ones that are left) and singing?
I knew they were touring... at one point, Lenny from motorhead was with them... and they call themselves DKT/MC5
Kick Out the Jams w/ Handsome Dick Manitoba the sound is pretty bad, but its isnt much better then most MC5 material
and I found some more old MC5 clips that you should enjoy
its more pop and psychedelic then the version from 1970 that I have, its its still amazing
Rocket Reducer No. 62 (Rama Lama Fa Fa Fa)
this is the audio from Kick Out the Jams and probably the best representation of Wayne Kramer and Fred "Sonic" Smith's guitar work
again, sub-par audio, but still amazing music
enjoy
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I spent last night watching MC5 videos on youtube. WOW!!! What a riveting band.
which clips did you watch?
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wow... I expected more people then this...
I guess its just you and me, bigstick
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what can I say about these guys? IMO...
-MC5 were the only band who could compete with the Stooges during the 1960's Detriot Rock Scene
-they are the most energetic/raw live band ever
-Wayne Kramer and Fred "Sonic" Smith are in the top 3 of duel guitarists
-Kick Out the Jams is the loudest, best live album I have ever heard in my life
-are vastly underrated, among their Peers and deserve more credit then they recieve
thats just some things I can say off the top of my head
I only listen to them live, and have "created" some full live concerts from semi-authorized material that was released in the 1990's:
Live at Sturgis Armory
Live at the Saginaw Civic Center
Live and the First Unitarian Church
I also bought Thunder Express and I am currently looking for "Phun City"... if anyone knows a place to find it, please let me know
anyway, lets get tot he point, and talk about MC5!!!!
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Linda Hamilton in T2
ill 2nd that emotion
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I can think of two examples in my life...
I got the call from my best friend that he broke up with his gf after she cheated on him... I was listening to LZ II (im pretty sure it was Ramble On when he called)... but I had just listen to Heartbreaker... a little strange, IMO
but, the wierdest examle that happened to me was last when I was in a local restaurant, listening to Ten Years Gone in my iPod... and this lady started talking to my mother and they started talking, didnt pay any attention... and she looks at me and "Ben?!? I havent seen you since you were 6 years old!" at the time, I was 16 years old... so...
16 years - 6 years=10 years... gone (since she last saw me)
that moment freaked me out!
anyone else have a wierd story?
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I love digital dream door!!! It's a great site and it's a great list.
I guess progressive rock begins with adding jazz and classical influences, at least thats the trend I've noticed in those bands. Look at "21st century schizoid man" it's obviously jazz influenced and procol harum's "a whiter shade of pale" is based off a piece of work by Bach. I also look at the instruments. Some bands used a violin or a flute or something from the orchestra in a song as a added layer. But when bands like the Moody Blues featured a whole orchestra for a whole album on "days of future passed", it was a milestone in progressive rock.
I don't know if that defines progressive rock, but looking at what made the music different when it came out may help.