zosodude13
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does catfood go CATFOOD catfood catfood AGAIN ? Cause there's a cover that Peach (Justin Chancellor from Tool's old band) does, and i never knew who did the original. if that's KC then they're even weirder than i thought!
i just started getting into king crimson- i don't really like the stuff before the 80s, but like i said, i only JUST started listening. as a new listener, i recommend other new listeners check out anything with adrian belew (after and including 1981/discipline) I have ConstruKction of Light and it's AMAZING.
you would be correct about catfood
I like the jazz stuff alot... in fact Lizard is sounding just as good as In the Court and In the Wake to me and Lizard is probably the peak of the jazz use for the band in the early-early albums
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if looks could kill... I'd be on life-support!
yet another beautiful picture, Inga!
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Your original inquiry is a legitimate question. Unfortunately, the right answer may not be
known outside of the band members or their representatives, in which case resolution
will take some time. Rest assured it has not been forgotten!
I was afraid of that... but I appreciate your concern and attention to my question!
I've learned so much from this thread from the questions you have answered... a great thread!
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Hey Steve,
It's been a while, but I'm just wondering if there has been any progress of the "ITTOD Cover Mystery"? its jsut been a while without any updates... thanks in advance!
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Neil Young is IMO a top 5 guitarists in terms of talent, creativity and ability...
after hearing his guitar in "Like a Hurricane" I was blown away by his performance, and I began to look deeper into Neil's career... that kinda paused as I began my current King Crimson journey
but hes someone I'll continue to look into as I expand my musical universe
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I don't want to start anything here, but I always preferred Crimson to bands like Genesis. If Robert Fripp had been in Genesis, we would have seen and heard some REAL magic.
Rob
two things...
1. which genesis peter gabriel or phil collins? (I think peter's years were better, but king crimson is better then the both of them)
2. whats your favorite king cirmsom stuff?
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here's a question for you, wes...
I have the single Groon on my copy of In the Wake of Poseidon... if there were other songs, made strictly for single release... what are they and are they available in anything other then a box set?
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Starless is my favorite Crimson song. I just love that buildup and then the climax at the end! Not to mention the mellotron and Wetton's singing.
it was funny for me after hearing this jazz/prog band for 4 albums... and then hearing Starless... which IMO had a slight blues feel to it... the first few minutes reminded me of Tea for One
great was to end the album and their first era as King Crimson
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The music in that song as well as the lyrics is so strong, i can't find the right word to describe it. How would you explain the meaning of the song. Seems pretty straighforward, but i'd love to hear what you think, for a broader perspective.
For i fear tomorrow, i'll be crying.......
well, the first thing I look at the is full title of Epitaph... the full title is
Epitaph including MARCH FOR NO REASON and TOMORROW and TOMORROW
so, I'm guessing ths song is about the future
The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.
When every man is torn apart
With nightmares and with dreams,
Will no one lay the laurel wreath
When silence drowns the screams.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
and laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.
Between the iron gates of fate,
The seeds of time were sown,
And watered by the deeds of those
Who know and who are known;
Knowledge is a deadly friend
When no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
and laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.
now, for what the future holds... I think they saw the colapse and failure of society... considering a Epitaph is what you write on a tombstone and the lyrics are a symbolic failure of the future...
but, thats just my opinon
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kind a stupid question... but it was bothering me...
out of all 6 covers of ITTOD...
why was this one picked to be on the CD release?
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As much as an "Every opinion counts" kinda guy I am, I must say that I laugh at anyone who thinks:
a)the Lochness Monster is real
and
b)Bigfoot is real
Seriously people, with how many people search for these things every year, we'd have some shred of evidence.
what about the other stuff...?
ghosts?
aliens?
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Great signature zosodude13! You're a bonifide Crimhead now.
In the Wake of Poseidon is compared so favorably to the 1st album, but I believe I like it even better. Greg Lake's voice on the title track that you picked as your favorite is just the best I've ever heard him sing. That and Epitaph off the first album.
I try, Wes
what I really liked in In the Wake of Poseidon was the drum beat and the well-timed rolls... also, that mellotron is one of my favs... and touch of horns (right around the line "Empire, blood and water world on the scales") adds a chilling effect
overall, In the Wake is the best overall representation of early King Crimson, as it showcased all of their facets as a band
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ghosts and aliens are real
as for the others... scientists have said only 20% of life on earth has been identified... I know that most of that 80% missing is bugs, plants and stuff in the ocean... but something could be out there
its wierd, I doubt we will find anything, but I wouldnt be suprised if we did... you know what i mean?
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Nice zosodude13. What's some of your favorite songs by King Crimson so far?
pretty much all of the first album, all of the second album, Cirkus, Red and Fallen Angel from the 4 albums I have right now... I heard a 30 second demo of Lark's part one and it sounded awesome
but, if I had to boil it down to one song, I would pick In the Wake of Poseidon
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well... I was working on a new sig, due to my shift in musical interest for king crimson... and so this my new sig and avatar
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I'll go more in depth tomorrow...
obviosuly a great departure from Court, Poseidon and Lizard (the 3 I have currently heard)... I think the change would be in more understandable and more in line if I had heard Islands, Larks and Bible Black... Still there were those signs and tells that it was good ole' KC
best song, IMO, is the title track and Providence is a close second
a VERY modern sounding album for the times (1974, i believe)... I would have said this sounds like underground/borderline-grunge in the 90's based on the overall sound... Fallen Angel is the only song that tries to remain with the 70's, IMO
hard to compare to the first 3 albums, as it is a totally different sound and band, but this ranks up there with my two favs In The Court and In The Wake
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One of the finest bands out there.
^^^^^
awesome!!!
I just bought RED tonight (and my own copy of In the Court)... I'll listen of RED tonight and review it ASAP
I wish I could get the albums in order... but this was the only album they had at the moument... and I have JPJ's 2 solo CD's coming monday/tuesday... so I'll have to wait on Islands, Larks and Starless... I know where to get Starless, but I'll have to wait and see about the other two
4 down, 3 to go
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Thank you, glad you found it interesting. Maybe this is the show your husband attended.
From July 1, 1974
Nick C., that's an excellent cd you posted about, and certainly zosodude13 ought to get that eventually, but to jump right to their latest studio release would bypass that whole period from 1972 till 2003! Then again, he could get that and backtrack.
I think my plan is to get islands, larks, starless and red... all from the early period, and take a break to enjoy all of those in that period... and from there... I'll look at the rest of the collection
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Wesely, would you recomend I listen/buy their albums in chronological order... i have with the first 3... or does it not really matter what order I get islands, larks, starless and red?
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You're part of a rare breed.
You mention Lizard. I found that the most difficult to get into throughout my King Crimson listening experience. However, I find it incredibly dense and fulfilling. A masterpiece.
Even within the progressive rock genre, they stand head and shoulders among their peers. I laugh when I see what some people consider progressive rock. They need to listen to this band to see what it's all about. Especially Larks Tongues in Aspic, Startless and Bible Black and the live 3 disc set from 2000, Heavy Construction.
I was able to get through Lizard becasue it was still heavy Mellotron and the jazz on that album reminded me of Cat Food, which was one of my favorite songs from In the Wake of Poseidon
I dont have anything beyond the first 3 albums... so I wanna know, how much did the style change after Lizard? because I know that there was a shift in musical direction... jsut not what exactly it was
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King Crimson has been so far ahead of most any band since 1969 they fly over the heads of 99.99999% of the population out there.
It's really a pity to see them go so unnoticed by the masses. Then again, look at what the masses listen to.
Genius is rarely recognized.
I even hear die-hard prog fans say they dont like them or dont understand their music... its sorta funny because many consider them one of the first prog bands...
I mean, it took me a couple of listenings to undersand In the Court of the Crimson King and appreciate it... but at least I learned to appreciate it and love it
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one of my favorite bands... my friend let me borrow In the Court of the Crimson King a few months ago... and the first time I heard it, I didnt really like it... about a month later, I had my iPod on shuffle and 21st Century Schizoid Man came up...that time, it liked it and listened tot he rest of the album, with a much different result!
I loved the mellotron and the effect it gave throughout In the Court of the Crimson King. Peter sinfield's lyrics were mysitcal and carefully caved each song into its own. From now on, I have to listen to the album all the way through, I cant listen to just one song.
I bought my own copy of In the Court of the Crimson King and their next album, In the Wake of Poseidon I liked the album, it basically is like a disc 2 of their first album. The Devil's Triangle (a cover of Holtz's Mars: The Bringer of War) was one of the evilest sounding songs I have ever heard. And Cat Food being one of the wierdest songs I have heard.
A couple of days ago, I bought their 3rd album Lizard. The opening, Cirkus is a classic Crimson song, with heavy mellotron. Lizard is a 23+ minute epic and took me a few listenings to understand the complexity of it all. I still need to listen to Lizard more to gain a ful perspective about it...
I created this thread to talk about King Crimson and get some opinions about the rest of their albums... I knwo the band shifted gears after Lizard, so I wanna get some opinions to find out if I wanna continue to get the rest of their albums
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Love the Doors!
top two songs are probaly Waiting for the Sun and The End
I "found them" when I watched Apocalypse Now and "The End" was the opening and closing theme for the movie... thats when I really got into them as a band!
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The same way that Crimson "robbed" Yes of Bruford?.
well... more like Crimson lost Greg Lake and Yes lost Bruford to the respective bands they went to...
its more along the lines that King Crimson was the best band that could have been... the first two and best two albums (In the court of the crimson king and in the wake of poseidon) were with the origanl line-up with Greg lake...
Fripp made that crimson, no question... but that line-up with Fripp, Lake, McDonald and Glies (not counting Sinclair) was absolutly amazing...a nd it was sad thay couldnt go on to do so much more
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welcome to this thread, hermit! (a place of peace from the d-day happening over in the next POTUS thread
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like I said, I havent gotten to the 80's era yet and dont plan to untill I get Islands, Lark's in Aspic, and Starless and Bible Black... to understand what the whole first stand of KC was all about
imo, In The Court of the Crimson King has gotta rank up there in terms of the best debut album of all time... and its because of that album I've learned to love the mellotron and enjoy the "epic" feel it adds to any song