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  1. There is some bluesy rap songs. But my personal opinion is rap evolved out of mixing black, urban street poetry and... Disco. Rapper's Delight is considered one of the first rap songs. The beat is very Disco oriented.
  2. Lemmy's problem is his acknowledging the shitty rap that is on the radio. They use one sample and it's mediocre. Good rap artists (mostly the groups) use a collage of samples and manage to create something new. On Public Enemy's "Fear of a Black Planet" (one of my all time favorite albums) there are over 120 samples on 15 out of 20 tracks to create these sonic murals over the raping. It's infinitely, better than the sampling the Beastie Boys used on the overrated "Licensed to Ill", where it was a drum beat and a guitar riff. And even then, Beastie Boys next album "Paul's Boutique" uses over 100 samples. Also, there are some rap bands, like The Roots, that use a full band and create their own beats. And they're had horn sections and current feature a sousaphone player (which makes for some awesome bass). How many rock bands can say that?! Same for the Beastie Boys as well. They all play instruments (they started off as a punk rock band) and my personal favorite album "Check Your Head", features them playing their own instruments on many of the tracks, seasoned with a few samples as well. I'll use the Beastie Boys as a prime example. You can hear the difference between crappy sampling, dynamic sampling and playing their own instruments. Crappy Sampling (The stuff Lemmy is complaining about) Dynamic Sampling (Wouldn't be terribly out of place on the Beatles' "Love" album) Playing Their Own Instruments (With a few samples thrown in)
  3. Right after Neil Young, these guys were the best music Canada ever produced. Sorry Rush fans...
  4. ?uestlove is the drummer for a rap/rock group called the Roots.
  5. A couple guys who deserved some love... Carmine Appice (The man is an amazing drummer and even more amazing person) Mitch Mitchell (Just imagine how good Jimi Hendrix had to be to outshine this guy!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS01e0ogmEc Art Blakey (Appropriatly titled "Drum Thunder Suite" for a reason...)
  6. It doesn't get much more unbiased than another country's news source...
  7. 1. Harder rock does not equal evolving taste in music. Look at the majority of death metal bands... would you call that evolving taste? 2. Talent is a good thing, but its not as valuable as people think. Bob Dylan doesn't play guitar or sing at a level above and beyond an average Joe with some music lessons. But he's one of the most influential and best known artists in history. Conversely, Asia was a supergroup with some the most talented musicians in rock music. Would anyone accuse them of being good? 3. Robert Plant has some great individual vocals, and that is unchallenged. But it pales in comparison to the complexity and talent for the Beatles to pull off their harmonies.
  8. If anyone likes rap/is at least open to it or is a fan of the Black Keys... you should check out the Blakroc album. Give it a chance. It's one of the albums that helped me get over my distaste for rap. There is good rap and the crap you hear on the radio. This is the good stuff. I promise.
  9. I was confused. I saw Motley Crue on the list and figured it was a worst of all time list.
  10. It would help if the radio stations I was near played anything other than Stairway to Heaven, Kashmir and Fool in the Rain on a regular basis. There are 80+ songs and live cuts too......
  11. Personally, I'm more interested in the other, far superior, bird-themed supergroup formed in 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF8Hug8ISMQ
  12. I searched for a thread on these guys and I did not see one. And frankly, I was shocked. They are one of the greatest bands of all time, and probably the best band America ever gave to the world. The relationship between Brian Wilson and Lennon/McCartney always interested me. The greatest song writers of all time. Watching each band release albums that would be considered all time greats and seeing them manage on one-up each other. You can only imagine if SMiLE had become the album Brian Wilson dreamed it to be. And, speaking of SMiLE, I think we can all agree Brian Wilson has one of the most tragic stories in music (without actually dying) Anyway, this is just a general thread to talk about an all time great band. Probably the single most beautiful piece of music I've ever heard in my life.
  13. In order of how I found them in my library... At San Quentin- Johnny Cash Blakroc- Blakroc Check Your Head- Beasite Boys Fear of a Black Planet- Public Enemy In a Silent Way- Miles Davis In the Court of the Crimson King- King Crimson Kick Out the Jams- MC5 Live at the Star Club, Hamburg- Jerry Lee Lewis Moanin'- Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers My Arms Your Hearse- Opeth Pet Sounds- The Beach Boys Revolver- The Beatles Songs for the Deaf- Queens of the Stone Age Vanilla Fudge- Vanilla Fudge What's Going On- Marvin Gaye
  14. The Doors never had a bass player. I never realized their whole act was a gimmick.... Until now!
  15. Short socks Popcorn or Pretzels?
  16. If they really wanted to honor female rockers and their role in integrating the music, they should have inducted Heart many years ago. Ann and Nancy Wilson are great examples of leading a good hard rock band, in a male led genre. Especially Nancy. It was rare to see a female non-vocalist in a band that wasn't an all girl group. True pioneers who should be honored as so.
  17. Can- Similar to Faust. Very avant-garde and minimalist. But they're smoother around the edges. Kraftwerk- Came to define the sound of "krautrock" and electronic music. If you're into rap/hip-hop, they were frequently sampled and used in the early years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hitRhTAGXDA The Monks- Technically made of American G.I.s based in Germany, but described as the "ultimate punk band" for their simplicity and 'I'm pissed at everybody' mentality.
  18. Frumpy- Bluesy Prog Rock Faust- Very avant-garde, but influential too. Had a song called "Krautrock" that gave the genre it's label. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oepHLeTG92s
  19. With the end of the White Stripes, I think it's safe to say the "Garage Rock Revival" of the early 2000's is officially dead: if it wasn't already. I remember the 4 "The" bands that were gonna be the "saviors of rock and roll".... -The Hives: Probably the most consistent of the 4, but they never managed to break through to the mainstream. -The Strokes: Is This It is also in the running for best album of the 2000's. But it's been a constant slump since then. -The Vines: A couple of popular singles (they can probably send their grandchildren to college with the royalties from "Ride") and that was about it. And finally The White Stripes. They no doubt had the most success of the four. Elephant is one of the best albums of the decade. Seven Nation Army has taken hold in our culture and won't go away anytime soon. There are so many other songs (Fell in Live with a Girl, Icky Thump...) that are staples of this decade. They had so much success, but between the long delays between albums and Jack's many side projects, it feels they rusted away (even finishing on a positive note).
  20. I'm glad you liked them! They are incredibly catchy! That "Tastebuds" song I mentioned is incredibly catchy and is as disgusting in the lyrics as it is crunchy and catchy in the sound. It's a winning combination. haha Check it out!
  21. The King Khan & BBQ Show (2002-2010) are one of my favorite bands and they have a style and obvious lo-fi sound that you can trace straight back to 60's garage rock. It also has some elements of punk and even doo-wop, with surreal undertones. They just broke up, but they left behind 3 great garage rock flavored LP's. They do have some salty language in a fair number of their songs. One of their bigger songs, "Tastebuds", may as well be a musical rendition of George Carlin's "7 Words You Can't Say on Television". But we're all adults, right? Here is a sampling from each of their 3 albums. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb_dmI0lCKI&feature=bf_next&list=MLGxdCwVVULXc0Nkf5PAursVa_DcnED5F_&index=4
  22. Not to mention they released the title track for the album, "Helplessness Blues". It's a free download on their website too. I hear a little more Simon & Garfunkel, rather than Crosby, Stills, Nash and (sometimes) Young. But rarely do I hear a artist's new material and get the same feeling as the first time you heard them. And in this case, I'm just as, or even more, blown away by this track. May 3rd can't come soon enough! --------------------------------------- EDIT: Sorry Rock n Rollin Man... I missed the top part of your paragraph where you say exactly the same thing I posted I just completely missed it. I'm a little excited about this album, maybe too excited haha
  23. Something I've become more and more interested in is the lineage and history of rock music. Looking at what genres were born from and looking at influences that led to new sounds in the music. From when I was young, even before I was listening to anything close to Rock and Roll, I knew one thing: Elvis was the "King of Rock and Roll". It's something you remember always hearing and feeling like it's a fact since the beginning of time. But, have you ever stopped to think about it: Why would Elvis be called the King? What separates him from Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Buddy Holly and others? Here are some thought I have as to why he is and how I think it's wrong. 1. Listen to 'Hound Dog', 'Johnny B. Goode', 'Tutti Frutti', 'Peggy Sue', 'Whole Lotta Shakin' Going On', 'Rumble', 'Bo Diddley', 'Rock Around the Clock' and other early songs of Rock and Roll. Then think about which songs would evolve into what we call Rock and Roll today. 'Hound Dog' would be near the bottom of my list, if that were the criteria, as would many Elvis songs. Elvis was considered himself a Rockabilly, Gospel and Pop artist before he was a Rock and Roller. He didn't write many of his songs either. Granted it was an uncommon practice for many artists, but I would like to think the King was an inventor rather than an innovator. 2. As obvious as it seems, the fact that Elvis was white in the 1950's led to his mainstream success, despite he was playing "black" music. Elvis once said "Rock 'n' roll has been around for many years. It was called Rhythm and Blues". He made it acceptable for white artists to play black music and for white fans to listen to black music. He deserves all the credit in the world for helping to break racial boundaries; something I feel is lacking in his legacy. But does that contribute to the music itself and how it's sounds? It's hard to say. 3.As the music began to have a commercial appeal, Elvis became the face of that. Millions of dollars in unofficial Elvis memorabilia; dolls, lunchboxes, china, toys, and anything retailers could slap his face on were sold in the late 50's and early 60's. It's only natural to assume his influx into homes across America helped him gain the reputation he still has today. But does exposure equal greatness? 4. Elvis also had the benefit of reaching the 1960's unscathed. He didn't marry his cousin (Jerry Lee Lewis), transport a minor across state lines (Chuck Berry), decide to join the priesthood (Little Richard) or die in a plane crash (Buddy Holly). As the 60's rolled around and Rock was beginning to be accepted as a legitimate form of music, Elvis was an original artist still around. Perhaps he was the King by default in their eyes since he made it. I know I was kinda rambling, but it's something I feel is wrong with the history of Rock and Roll: labeling Elvis as its King. And if you want to know who I think the true "King of Rock and Roll" is... here's my quick bullet points about their career -He has some of the most iconic Rock and Roll songs of all time -He has been covered and/or ripped off by an infinite amount of artists -He put Rock and Roll's flagship instrument front and center in his songs and performances -He wrote many of his own songs The True King of Rock and Roll (Click Here) Your thoughts?
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