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You're welcome! I don't want anyone to miss the great music of Peter Green!!!
How's it going "Swede?" This is ZeppFanForever using "beatbo's" computer here in Biloxi, Mississippi. Thanks for helping me keep Peter Green's Legend alive! I'll be back home in San Antonio tomorrow afternoon. Keep up the great work "Swede!"
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Na, this is the Real East Enders. The Old Kray Twins.
reggie and ronnie! hoxton? i used to love reading about these guys, any local stories, danny?
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And yet, you chose to slap around someone who has contributed well and discretely in the past, in "support" of someone who DOES want to know and discuss every obsessional detail of their lives .
WW hadn't even attacked SAJ but merely asserted that he does NOT know Jimmy Page personally. He doesn't. That's not an insult. If someone asserted that I may love Stevie Winwood, I may know quite a lot about him, I may even have met him and chatted a couple of times, but I DON'T know him personally - I wouldn't be offended, I wouldn't consider it an insult that people have to leap to my defence about - because its actually the truth. I wouldn't expect someone to then tell them to piss off and accuse them of vomitting a bile of jealousy. Guess that's what made me react as I did. The only reason I even mentioned him knowing P &P was your suggestion that he might be jealous of Steve - which is a million miles from the truth. Sound fair?
Its no secret that Steve and I aren't mates, but we always manage to say what we have to say and move on. Sometimes we even keep quiet about what we would like to say (like my answer to his last post re grave-yard pics) and the world still turns. But things that have gone on in the last couple of pages of this thread speak volumes.
FWIW, sometimes people CAN'T say exactly what they would like to say for all sorts of reasons, and speak up to whatever degree for the good of the forum AND band. If some of us didn't speak up now and again, SAJ might actually be considered as an ultimate Zep expert and mate of the band - and they certainly wouldn't want that. He's a fan with an obsessional interest in detail, no more or less, and I have already said this thread can be very interesting indeed- it can also be creepy. I take it for what it is but I will certainly comment on it when I feel like it.
I also don't think that any of the people I have seen on here who are personal friends of the band have EVER acted like they are the only ones entitled to speak up about things - but by the same token, that status doesn't EXCLUDE them from discussions or stop them from having their own opinions.
a bunch of hogwash.
and you decide what's best for the forum AND THE BAND????
and you know all the reasons?
and YOU know what the band wants??
oh my god, if you shook my hand, i may never wash it!!
sounds like you are lucky that you know yourself...
you're welcome to PM any rebuttal or discussion points you can manufacture but i'm off this thread.
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absolutely essential! excellent posts....
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OMG that is hilarious. The guy you are being so rude to has had more contact with Page and Plant than SAJ has had wet dreams about them - whatsmore he is absolutely dead on.
Now, back to the mysteries of the thread - and perhaps ask yourself why the thread you love so much would even exist if Steve knew Jimmy on a "personal" level - he'd just need to directly ask Jimmy for all the answers then, surely?
well, since most of us neither stalk or know everybody likethis, we can only take people at face value unless we know any better. being a fan of jimmy page and led zeppelin (not to mention serious interests in hundreds of other things) makes me less interested in who knows who here. this seems to be an ongoing game a select few play, but i can't make myself be interested.
that said, my history of posting on here should speak for itself. the post you quoted isn't the only one i've made here and i genuinely try to bring something to the table as well as be polite when others talk. if you know something and can only hint about it, why say it? or just let us all know so that we can spend more time somewhere else.
i don't want to be jimmy page's neighbor. i just want to hear his music, watch him play his ass off onstage and read about how he came to make his music. is that okay?
i've read great posts by walterwalk and have always enjoyed them (and told him as much before reading your post or writing this one).
if only good buddy's of the members of led zeppelin can slap people around on this forum, then then i guess i'll get hit once in awhile.....
thank you, knebby, may i have another?
beatbo
edit to add: i've never received the impression from reading this thread that steve knew jimmy page. i've always seen his responses to posts as incentive to do a jounalistic huntdown-the hardcore research that most of us appreciate but are so not willing to do.
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Never said he was a stalker but i think you will find i am correct in saying SAJ does not know Jimmy Page on that personal level.
so.....are you saying steve is lying? you seem to be certainly insinuating something.
i will say this: this is my favorite thread on this damn forum and sometimes the only reason i log on. many, many people have cast stones or or darker aspersions without anything to back it up. steve hasn't claimed BFF status or entourage membership. it sounds to me like he stated a fact and the manner in which he stated it caused your vomit of sour grapes.
contribute or piss off.
hope this helps!
beat
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Careful where you let that mind of your's wander.
nutter....
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I had a smartass moment there, lol. Sorry about that!
quite alright.
billions served.
come again....
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Probably because of something you said.....
you're just saying that to make me feel good.
or, you're usual (?) friendly demeanor needs a recharge.
which one?
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why is t.o. crying?
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How's it going fellow die hard hard core ZEPPELIN fanatics? I will be telling all of you the real story behind the legendary RUMOURS album this weekend. I would like to begin the RUMOURS album with a PRE-RUMOURS album setting. "Dzldoc," if you're reading this, I dedicate this post to you.
RUMOURS was recorded and released in 1977 during the worst time in Stevie Nicks', Lindsey Buckingham's, John McVie's, Christine McVie's and Mick Fleetwood's lives. John & Christine McVie divorced and Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were going through a painful breakup. Mick fleetwood will have already been divorced a few years from Jenny Boyd (Patti Boyd Harrison's sister). Despite all of the pain that was evidently tearing FLEETWOOD MAC apart, the band members dug deep within themselves and delivered one of Rock's Top 100 ALL-TIME GREATEST ALBUMS ever! There were many great songs on the RUMOURS album which included "Dreams," "Don't Stop," "You Make Loving Fun" and "The Chain" to name a few. However, if I had to choose my favorite song on the RUMOURS album, it would definitely have to be "Songbird" which was composed by Christine McVie.
The story of "Songbird" came about after the other band members left the studio for the day and Christine chose to stay behind and finish the song that she was writing. I spoke with Christine McVie one on one personally in the early 1980's concerning this song and she had this to add:
"I wrote this song as a message, a plea and a Prayer to John, Lindsey, Stevie and Mick. I had just gone through a painful divorce with John and Lindsey had just broken up with Stevie. These times were the most painful times in all of our lives and I felt that the band was about to split up and go their separate ways. As a result, I wrote this song from my heart. "
So with just Christine and a piano, Christine would deliver one of the most powerful vocal performances and arrangements ever and it would be recorded onto tape for the RUMOURS album. It is the last song on the RUMOURS album. In my opinion, "Songbird" was the most appropriate way to end the RUMOURS album. Here are the lyrics to the Christine McVie composition released on the 1977 RUMOURS album entitled quite simply, "Songbird."
SONGBIRD
Music & Lyrics by Christine McVie
For you, There'll be no more crying
For you, The sun will be shining
And I feel that when I'm with you
It's alright, I know it's right
To you, I'll give the world
To you, I'll never be cold
'Cause I feel that when I'm with you
It's alright, I know it's right
And the songbirds are singing
Like they know the score
And I love you, I love you, I love you
Like never before
And I wish you all the love in the world
But most of all, I wish it from myself
And the songbirds keep singing
Like they know the score
And I love you, I love you, I love you
Like never before
Like never before
Like never before
ROCK ON!
excellent song. she will be missed (again) from the coming tour.....
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I love Bob Dylan, I love it when he talks! Not as much as I love hearing Robert Plant talk. My favorite song would have to be between Hurricane or Tangled Up in Blue, for my favorite line from the song that is on my signature.
here you go....60 minutes interview:
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Scans anyone?
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i'll chip in:
rodney dangerfield:
"last week I saw my psychiatrist. i told him, "doc, i keep thinking i'm a dog." he told me to get off his couch...
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kickass! i love this snippet from the interview:
The new record’s very different from Modern Times which was a number one hit. It seems like every time you have a big hit, the next time out you change things around. Why don’t you try to milk it a little bit?
I think we milked it all we could on that last record and then some. We squeezed the cow dry. All the Modern Times songs were written and performed in the widest range possible so they had a little bit of everything. These new songs have more of a romantic edge.
How so?
These songs don’t need to cover the same ground. The songs on Modern Times songs brought my repertoire up to date, and the light was directed in a certain way. You have to have somebody in mind as an audience otherwise there’s no point.
What do you mean by that?
There didn’t seem to be any general consensus among my listeners. Some people preferred my first period songs. Some, the second. Some, the Christian period. Some, the post Colombian. Some, the Pre-Raphaelite. Some people prefer my songs from the nineties. I see that my audience now doesn’t particular care what period the songs are from. They feel style and substance in a more visceral way and let it go at that. Images don’t hang anybody up. Like if there’s an astrologer with a criminal record in one of my songs it’s not going to make anybody wonder if the human race is doomed. Images are taken at face value and it kind of freed me up.
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Yeah you didn't really pick up on that, did you?
Anyway, Press To Play was one of the first albums, if not the first, album I ever bought. I think I was 10 or 11, anyway I listened to it again last night and it's not as bad as what I thought it was
sorry....perhaps even more smiley cons or whatever would have helped!
'press to play' isn't pete townshend on that?
i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 'john lennon's 'plastic ono band' is the greatest solo beatle album....EVER.
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mccartney doing 'here today' in a record store in 2007:
cool video of 'coming up':
from his 79 columbia release "back to the egg":
more "back to the egg":
one of my faves:
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Oh definately, because 'Press To Play' beats 'Sgt Pepper' easily as an album And most critics agree that 'Give My Regards To Broad Street' was artistically and cinematographically a far superior film to 'A Hard Day's Night'.
what a load of horse shit.
'a hard days night' is considered one of the best, if not THE BEST rock music film ever made. it is even considered one of the top 10 films ever made by roger ebert, who used to teach a class about the film at northwestern.
if you prefer 'press to play' over 'pepper', well, that is your right, but in my mind, pepper owns one of the greatest songs ever written (a day in the life), which makes this topic moot...
i love paul mccartney and his solo music, have seen him several times and am a huge beatles fan. even paul would thank you for your careful compiling of statistics, but defer to his original band.
the best thing about broad street is JPJ...
edit to add: here is to the hope that 'horsey' is being sarcastic....
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excellent thread, ZFF! thanks for the news on peter green 2009, i'll keep tuned in for that one. thanks to bigdan and swede for their always spot on input....
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I saw them in the early 90's opening for GnR and Metallica and they sucked large! Metallica and GnR were excellent. Playing your "Hit" song twice in your set is a killer for me IMO.
i saw them open for robert plant in st. louis and they were smoking! i have also seen mr. bungle many times in chicago and i'm a big mike patton fan. too bad the original guitar player won't be included and there aren't any dates for the states.....yet.
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THE SHARDS OF YOUR SOULS SHALL BASK IN THE FIRES OF MY PAIN. YOU ARE ALL FOOLS TO WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR OF RA BEFORE KNOWING THAT WHICH YOU DO NOT SEEK. PAGE AND PLANT HAVE SEALED THEIR FATES IN THE HOLES OF MY WILL. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO KNOW WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW. ONLY ATTEMPT TO SUBMIT. THERE YOU WILL FIND PEACE. ZUR EN ARRH
this is not...
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ORIGINS OF JIMMY PAGE AS PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN
RED E. LEWIS & THE REDCAPS
To quote Neil Christian: "I was looking for a guitar player and I went down to Epsom to see this school-kid that I had heard about". "He was only 15 at the time, still at school but wanted to leave rather than go to college". "So I went to see his parents. They weren't
very keen on the idea but I told them I would guarantee him 15 pounds a week, which in those days was very good money. Anyway, Jimmy joined".
To quote Jimmy Page: "It was Neil Christian who saw me playing in a local hall and suggested that I play in his band. It was a big thing because they worked in London, whereas I was from the suburbs. So there I was, the 15 year old guitarist marching into London with his guitar case. I played for him a couple of years".
It is said history often forgets many things, but how can these two men really forget the truth?
At a local club in Epsom in 1959 Jimmy Page's band were first on the bill to Chris Farlowe's band and Johnny Kidd & The Pirates. Unfortunately, Farlowe had a throat infection and could not make the show but his friend Red E. Lewis - also from the Tottenham/Wood Green area - stepped in for him so the band could play. Lewis fronted the
Recaps, a Gene Vincent-inspired band that were very popular in the clubs of North London. Their manager was Neil Christian.
Red spoke with Jimmy about his band after the show and they talked about Elvis and Gene Vincent and other rock 'n' rollers. Jimmy mentioned his ambition was to go to London and join a bigger band. Red was looking for a second guitarist at the time and he went over to speak with Neil Christian about it. Christian was introduced to Jimmy before he
left, and Red took Jimmy's address and phone number and said goodbye.
Back in North London, Red and Christian discussed the young guitarist and they decided to phone him up. They arranged to meet him and a week later they both traveled by train to Epsom to meet the Page family.
After a long conversation about his schooling, music, ambition and money Page's parents agreed to permit Jimmy to go to London. A few days later Jimmy took up residence at Red's home where he rehearsed his guitar playing in the living room. After a couple of weeks of rehearsals, Jimmy joined Red E. Lewis and The Redcaps.
The band, with Jimmy, played a number of headline concerts at the rock 'n' roll club just off Caledonian Road. A photograph exists of Jimmy with the band during this time, taken after another concert that also featured Johnny Kidd & The Pirates.
Christian, meanwhile, was getting fed up with being a manager and decided to put his own band together. Red was having problems with his group, so it was then decided Jimmy would join Christian's band the Crusaders, and Red would sort out a new band himself.
Red invited his friends Johnny Patto, Johnny Spence, and Frank Farley to form the new group. Mick Green was added to replace Jimmy and this lineup carried on until Red called it quits. The band went on to back cabaret star Cudley Dudley before becoming the most famous lineup of Johnny Kidd's band.
Before long, Red was singing backup for Gene Vincent before opting to assist his brother Mick Stubbs in the Blue Rondos and later in Home. Page had by then spent two years with Neil Christian and The Crusaders before leaving due to glandular fever.
By the way, Mick Stubbs wrote a song titled 'Red E. Lewis & The Redcaps', and one of the lines is "I hope Jimmy remembers when".
Perhaps Jimmy will remember now!
this is why i read this forum...
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"pussycats" is the album nilsson did with john lennon.....it was not his best. there is "pandemonium shadow show" from 1966 where harry did a cover of the beatles "you can't do that" and also managed to include 20 something other beatles songs in the backup vocals on that recording. legend has it that derek taylor came across this album (and song) and took a box of copies back to england for the beatles and they all became nilsson fans...
And most critics agree that 'Give My Regards To Broad Street' was artistically and cinematographically a far superior film to 'A Hard Day's Night'.
THE FLEETWOOD MAC THREAD
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well, you're all invited to the mississippi bles and heritage fest in greenville, ms on sept. 10th.
there is the delta blues museum in clarksdale, ms : link here
go to the crossroads yourself at highway 49 and highway 61. not only did robert johnson have his fair deal gone down there, but the blues great bessie smith was killed in a car accident there in 1937 (so protect yourself by bringing your john the conqueror root).
there is rolling fork, home of muddy waters, indianola, home of b.b. king, and west point, home of howling wolf, and hazelhurst, where robert johnson was born.
plenty more where that came from....
by the way, ZFF really rocks on. all the time! it's not just his signature signoff, it's a way of life!
ROCK ON!