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I've got to say.. the only person who seems to know what they're talking about is Evster.
Though, why can't this symbol have multiple meanings...
Maybe theres a reason for him picking the symbol that can be interpreted in so many different ways...
I mean, wheres the mystery in Robert, John Paul, or Bonzo's symbols? Those are no fun...
all symbols have multiple meanings, that is their purpose. the meaning of the designator, and the meaning of the observor(s).
symbols are fun, but as joe perry once said "let the music do the talking".
or, as the late george carlin once said: "symbols are for the symbol-minded."
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this is a kick ass tune. they won't let you post it. i think this was stolen from page many years ago.
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I bet you a huge bulk of the hundred million albums that were sold in the U.S. were sold prior to that timeframe, and probably werent sold in the midwest.
If you ask me, I still stand by my claim that they are not as popular as people think (in the mid-west at least).
I don't want to start any fights, and I'm not saying that it isn't different elsewhere.
doc, you seem pretty cool. you are only posting what you know. that's awesome-thanks for that.
now let me tell you this, and you will not only know what you know, but you will know what i know, as well.
that will make you twice as smart.
i grew up in southern illinois/st.louis. lived in chicago for over a decade. spent some childhood in western kentucky, and have pretty much travelled the entire US. i graduated high school in 1980. i was a freshman in 1976. in 8th grade, i stood in line at a record bar (mall music store) waiting all night so that i could buy one of the first copies of physical grafitti. i first was turned on to zep in the 5th grade by a stoner/highschool aged neighbor who gave me 2 8-tracks: zep 4 and zep 2 (thanks, wayne!).
take my word for it-when the 70's hit and people on the east and west coast were snorting coke to disco music, we were smoking weed to led zeppelin. disco came and went, but we didn't know it. the multitude of those millions that you quoted were sold thoughout that decade-everytime a new zep album came out, evrybody bought all the others as well. but to say that it was only the midwest would be wrong-listen to the boots. some of the greatest shows and the most rabid fanbase were on both coasts (the south, too-royal orleans, remember?). but fads were slow or non-existent in the midwest, to that i can attest. once something of quality caught on, people that live in rural areas held on to it for DECADES.
number one band in southern illinois in 1975? led zeppelin.
number one band in 1985? led zeppelin
trust me....
your friend,
beat
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This is an additional question. The following pic is from the same day.
Maggie Bell is holding Scarlet, and who is the man at right side?
looks like les harvey.
edit: but it couldn't be if this is a photo from 1975. harvey died in '72.
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Wow! There is some amazing stuff on there, and I've only looked at the first few items.
i highly recommend him as well. he may not sound inexpensive, but you will get what he says it is.
right now, i'm into russian bootleg vinyls of zeps catalogue. i've got several copies of 1 and 4, even 4 with HOTH in a double with idiotic crazy graphics. i have a 2 and and looking for a good PG next. i'll try to scan 'em this weekend and show you guys.
as for past obsessive collecting, i not only did zep but tons of beatles and dylan. lost most to katrina, but saved a few suprises, like most of the books and vinyl.
i did also save some lithos of jimmy shot by jim marshall, '77 tour (not a copy-there are many) and earls court programs.
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Buying A Stairway to Heaven
Guitar World (Jan 1991)
Courtesy of Steve A. Jones Archive
nice! remember merit? rick is very committed...
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Well, someone out there has Jimmy's Black Beauty that was stolen off an airport luggage cart in 1970...
george jones will recover a guitar that was stolen from him in '62. some hope for jimmy?
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Brilliant player. Was lucky to see him during the Blow By Blow, Wired and There And Back tours ( all small venues ) as well as his stint with Rod Stewart in the 80's.
there and back was my fave....simon phillips was a monster, still have my jersey from that show.
i bought a ticket to see rod stewart with beck in the '80s-he didn't play. did he play any concerts on that tour?
the show with stevie ray (guitar shop tour) was kick ass, too...
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ROCK ON PEOPLE!!!
i live in casinoville, )meaning i can see all the grass roots, pat benatar, david allan coe, englebert humperdinck i want) although biloxi does have a 10k seater arena (def leppard w/joan jett next) that hosts an alternative rock fest with puddle of mudd,P.O.D.,Shinedown,10 Years,Tantric,Toadies, blah blah. new orleans has a kick ass voodoofest in october, so i'm looking all over. zappa plays zappa is at HOB, and i heard terry bozzio is with them. rem, black crowes (seen 'em both) all comes early fall down here.
funny thing, in the paper this morning, an ad for a casino was shoutin' about RAIN, the beatles tribute. a blurb underneath it said" denver post: the next best thing to seeing the beatles". right underneath it was an ad for ringo and the all-starr band at the same casino. now wouldn't the next best thing to seeing the beatles be seeing A beatle? ('specially since there's only two, now?).
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I think Glenn is absolutely outstanding at that show. He has the most incredible voice.
Of course Coverdale's aint bad either.
kick-ass clip. not the best purple, imho, but tasty.
i'll take this purple. that's what's good about that band: there's a purple for everyone!
robert would probably preen all over this...
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If Jimmy would get on stage again regularly,I wouldn't care if Mickey Mouse was the singer.
i'm really with ya on that. wonder what p.diddy is doin.....
btw, after re-reading the posts directly over my head from earlier this year, i have to say that ian gillian is a monster and i've loved everything he's done. not pretentious, no bullshit, great pipes, lotsa passion.
there. i said it. it needed to be said.
(ducks behind bushes)
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Steve,
The apostrophe comes from this newspaper ad from June 1968: http://www.marmalade-skies.co.uk/mothersjun68.jpg
And the part about the band originally being called The Answer comes this Brumbeat website: http://www.brumbeat.net/alexspie.htm
scott, as always,a deep bow to the master....
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Thanks Rock, I didn't know about 'Steal Away'.
Have you heard these songs?
here you go, check it out:
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Hey Rod- here's one for you. It took TWO of you, you and your buddy Woody, to replace ONE member of the Faces. And even at that, the band was only half as talented afterwards. Put that in yer fuckin' pipe and smoke it.
got that right!
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Excerpt from newspaper interview
SYRACUSE (NY) POST-STANDARD, April 22, 1978
By JOHN WISNIEWSKI
~snip~
"Led Zeppelin only came about because of the Jeff Beck
Group . . . went back to London and formed exactly
the same lineup we had — a singer, a
bass player and a drummer."
~snip~
a power trio with a singer...man, what an original idea! that jeff beck.....
lemme tell you, though, jeff beck can play: live, in the studio, on the moon. all you gotta do is get him to show up. again, as with the nugent thread, one need look no father than the recorded canon of any artist. against led zeppelin, they all pale. while the beatles have the most celebrated recorded catalogue in history, sonically the led zeppelin canon is the benchmark.
even jeff beck knows that, if not rod "the mod"!
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last night and this mornings tracklist:
led zeppelin southhampton 1/22/73-all of it
essential muddy waters-long distance call
albert king-the hunter
best of bb king-sweet sixteen
robert plant/allison krauss -knoxville
april wine-bad side of the moon
ben harper - in the colors
chaka khan - sweet thing
chuck berry london sessions-reelin and rockin' live
wesley willis-i whupped batman's ass
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that was sooo smokin', cat! thank yew!
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anyone else have a wierd story?
yeah.... i was on jimmy page's side of the stage at a firm concert in st. louis, wearing (whatelse) a jimmy page /led zeppelin shirt. right after the bow solo and during arena shaking applause (led by ME) pagey pointed at ME, gave ME a thumbs up, and then psychically visited me. we had a chat. no time passed. the concert continued. my mind was blown.
i'm not kidding...
weird, huh?
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there is some great bits on it. such as page's melodic and delicate guitar parts on some of the tracks . aside from blue train the vocals were recorded/mixed too thin
and dry. blue train is almost too wet. the guitar parts are nice but production wise
they could have been better. and it's hard to hear what the bass player is doing.
overall it sounds like they were rushed and had only 8 hours of studio time to work with.
it almost sounds like a demo. it's cold and solid state sounding (despite the fact that albini
prides himself on using tape and analogue equipment) i still really like the cd. a lot.
i love blue train....i think it's one of the best cuts on the album. robert was going for a "hear my lips smack and soft breathy" kinda thing the whole album and on this track it came off the best. the singer was emotionally invested in this tune. pagey made me smile the whole song. i could hear his whole history in his playing on that song....from studio firebrand playing background to seriously soulful chops that can only come from the most passionate guitar player on the planet. i found the guitar on that song subtle, tasteful, and extremely poignant. i recall playing this song for several "nonzephead" friends when WIC was released. i didn't tell them who it was and the reaction from most of them was astonishment- "velvety beautiful!" to intense curiosity: " who the fuck is that?"
wet? perhaps...
more like "dewy"
shining in the light: another standout that really could have been a kickass zeppelin track. i could almost "hear" the HOH orange emanating from the sound....
i agree with most of the previous remarks concerning production values and the superiority of "most high". i wish pagey would have produced this old school.
that said, i still play this record.
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I have the same boot, and, in fact, listened to it yesterday. And while you are correct that this is what the tracklisting calls it, the correct title of the song is "As Long as I Have You." The person who wrote out the tracks did not know what the song was, so simply named it after the first lyric that came to their head. In fact, there is no such song, that I know of, called "I Fought my way Out of the Darkness."
It has been mislabeled.
garnet mimms. "cry, baby" among others, was produced by bert berns.....
check him out. might like it, ya never know
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I would guess it's because there's just way too much garbage in occult works. Word on the street was that he studied the works of Aleister Crowley. This man wrote tons of stuff on occult theology, but a lot of it was flawed because the man never bothered to learn the languages he based his work on ~ and there are some who study Kabbalah, who still claim you don't have to even know Hebrew! It's a great pity because they would learn a thing or two. For instance, the Geburhim were a Hebrew army. The Nephalhim were not "giants" (Greek error), but were rather cross breeds - offspring of inter-marriage which, according to the Torah, was forbidden, even between the tribes of Israel itself (because it caused dissent among the people). In fact, that was the first written "prenuptial agreement" that was ever recorded. The Raphahim are also mentioned. People, for reasons unknown to me, have confused the common title, Bene Elohim (sons of God) with the Malakhim (Messengers), which the western world calls Angels.
Some of these mistranslations have even caused wars, such as the dispute between the Jews and the Muslims... it's so bad that I've even had to create a special program on my computer to keep track of them all. There's a lot of this sh*t going on and it's almost bordering on rediculous!
When you come of a certain age, you realise that there is no magic pill to swallow and knowledge comes from dedicated study, not some divine bolt of lightening. More importantly, these studies are a journey, and you need to allow yourself the TIME to enjoy that journey.
Maybe that's what went missing with some of these so-called authorities. They were so focused on the end, they missed a lot of sights that were on their way. There's quite a lot to take in if given enough time.
The Ninth Scribe
this is the most reasonable and truest post on this thread..
well done.
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In Through The Out Door Double Album?
This inquiry via PM from LedZep4Ever (Steve Sparks)
I can't remember now, but I believe I either read and/or heard that "In Through the Out Door" was to have been a double album? I think the timeline that I read and/or heard this was between the 1979 release of ITTOD and shortly sometime after CODA was released
since, basically, side 2 of CODA are all outtakes from ITTOD.
Can you possibly confirm any of this?
Thanks for your time,
Steve Sparks (LedZep4Ever)
I think I can completely disprove this idea of a double album.
On August 14th 1979, ITTOD was released.
Only three of the eight tracks on CODA are ITTOD outtakes: 'Ozone Baby', 'Darlene' and 'Wearing And Tearing'. I've already shown at least two of these three was recorded in
the limited time they had available. I would bet all three were but have not confirmed the date for 'Darlene' so I do not make that claim.
In Through The Out Door only contains 7 songs (42:25) so they could have added more had they wanted to. In my opinion, the fact these three were left off the album is more indicitive the band felt they either didn't fit the mood of the album or were weak songs than that they suggest a double album was ever in the works. In early 1978, when the
rehearsals began, they were just satisfied knowing Robert would return. A double album
would have been far too ambitious given the circumstances of the time.
steve, wasn't there a glimmer of an idea being kicked around about releasing an e.p. for Knebworth with the coda/ittod outakes? i seem to remember they went so far as commisioning artwork for the sleeves but it was ultimately quashed for time constraints.
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The real reason Zeppelin fans don't like VH is simply because they were the pretenders to the throne of Zeppelin in the US, punk never even entered into the equation back in 1977. It was the end of an era.
Personally I say thank God for EVH, he dragged rock guitar playing kicking and screaming out of the dead end that was the blues. It's hardly his fault we got RATT, Warrant, and the rest is it?
i love vh and i'm a zeppelin zonko.
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What's up with these "vs" threads? Hendrix, Page, Van Halen are all incredible in their own right. When you get as good as these guys were/are, it's just a matter of opinion, and that's it.
there ya go. well said. fun to talk about but this could never be a serious conversation. i've had a great time EVERY time i've seen page, van halen, clapton, beck (jeff), srv, blackmore, vai, satch, buddy guy, hubert sumlin, the edge, b.b., towshend, zappa, prince, gilmore, blah, blah, blah. sometimes they have played better than others and sometimes i have been moved to tears.
the first time i saw TSRTS, i thought jimmy page was the fastest thing ever, and zeroing in on that made me miss a ton of other great stuff he did in the very same film. the passion.....i must say: jimmy page is the most passionate guitar player i have ever seen.
Bob Dylan
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Posted · Edited by beatbo
you guys gotta see this: bob dylan meets the beatles-the meth minute. THIS THING IS HILARIOUS!