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  1. 11 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

    The RFK one is even more obvious as a CIA hit as Bobby was, without doubt, going to get the Dem nomination. Bobby had recently changed his mind regarding the US & Israeli relationship insofar as intelligence and supplying arms (the USS Liberty attack was still fresh at the time) and he possibly would have killed weapons sales (50 Phantom jets) to Israel if elected. This was big money being threatened not to mention US interests in the middle east for decades to come. Sirhan claimed he killed Bobby because Kennedy supported the arms sales which he initially did but Kennedy had been having second thoughts. Bobby's death was quite obviously a CIA hit as he was shot in the back of the head even though Sirhan was in front of him the whole time. Sirhan's gun held 8 rounds yet 10 were pulled from the pantry...where did the other two come from? Then there is the mysterious Lady in Red seen by several and which Sirhan originally claimed was his handler.

    I don't buy that theory either Frogman.  First off by 1968 most Americans were very ready to change parties after the total fuck over by the Johnson administration and the Vietnam war. In 1968 Nixon was very likely to win and in fact he won a much larger margin of electoral votes than  Hubert Humphrey ended up with. There was also a HUGE 3rd party spoiler in the mix--- George Wallace-- who carried a large chunk of Southern states pretty much assuring that those votes for Wallace would come out of the Democrat party column.

    So with all  of that then looking ahead for the Democratic party, why on Earth would the "CIA" need to assassinate RFK since the political pendulum was already swinging toward the Republicans that year anyway?

    Sirhan-Sirhan was a loon. Even more loony than Lee Harvey Oswald. The guy was a disturbed man who target RFK based off whatever squirmy thinking was going on in Sirhan-Sirhan's brain. He is the same type who might do a mass shooting, but in '68 he was dead set on targeting RFK. 

    As already stated, the simplest answer is usually the correct answer. A nut with gun.

  2. 4 hours ago, rm2551 said:

    I agree with practically all of this. Kipper, is that really you? 🤣

    I'll still murder a good steak though. No matter what. It is more the health and welfar of the animal in question. Put them on a farm, protect them from their natural often grizzly deaths at the hands of predators, then slaughter (humanely, not the way most Middle Eastern countries and others do) and use the animal. It's somewhat about respect.

    Problem with these a-holes in China is they are concentrating many different live wild animals species at their wet markets.  Here in America even if you hunt wild game animals, you don't bring them back alive, put them in a cage, and then allow their blood and feces to intermingle with other animals.  Something really dirty and nasty about the food culture in China.

    So yeah, 'humane" or just otherwise sanitary and regulated by the USDA I'm fine with.

    I once went to a slaughterhouse where they were processing beef. It wasn't as weird of frightening as you might think. It's actually pretty well organized and sanitary. Not as much in this video, but close.

    This video will affect people two different ways:  either horrified, or made hungry. For me it makes me hungry.

     

  3. 5 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

    It's all perspective. You go to India and even think of touching a cow much less eating one and your ass is screwed. Societies develop differently so one society may look at a dog and see a pet while others see lunch. As far as I am concerned if you eat any animal, you really cannot condemn another for which animals they choose to eat otherwise you are being rather hypocritical IMO. I love dogs, have one right now and I would kill a fucker should they attempt to harm her, but that was my cultural upbringing. Personally I believe humanity cannot truly socially evolve to the next level until we respect ALL animals and eat NO animals as a result. I eat fish (no land animals) occasionally so I feel I have not evolved socially either. Maybe in a few years, sushi is yummy!!! I also cannot and will not condemn another for their food choices just as long as that choice does not include my dog Nibbler.

    Who's a good doggie??? YOU are...YOU are Nibbler 🐕

    Well.... I would NEVER go to India. Not because I have an issue with the people or their culture---- but in terms of protecting my health--- or in anticaption of what may happen if you have an accident and need to go to the hospital, there are MANY countries I would not travel to. The closest country to me on that list is Mexico. NOPE--- won't go. Not even for a few hours in TJ. No reason to go to a 3rd world nation---- maybe no reason to go to many 1st world nations too, but I digress.

    If we were in a 'lifeboat' situation and our survival depended on eating Fido--- then that is one thing. In fact Fido would just be eaten FIRST.... and the whoever is the next to die would be eaten next.  But we do not live in that kind of situation, and while we human are in fact omnivores--- have sharp cuspid teeth same a canines and tigers for tearing and eating flesh--- we still aren't living during the receding ice age so no reason apart from a dire situation for survival to eat dogs, cats, monkeys, bats--- or many other animals.

    Dogs aren't more intelligent than some other animals, but over the last 20,000 years we humans have developed along side of dogs and we sort of have a human/canine relationship. It wasn't cows and chickens who were are "early warning system" helping us to be alerted for other threats, both four legged and two legged threats. And it wasn't pigs and sheep who helped us hunt for game. Because clearly at the point we had pigs and sheep we didn't need to hunt as much--- and it was of course the domesticated canine that helped us to herd and protect those sheep, cattle, and even protect our poultry. 

    In the end a dog or cat is still just another form of protein. But the same is true of humans-- and we DON'T eat humans either. Not saying dogs are humans, but the fucking part of the damn Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese cultures that make it okay to eat dogs and cats is just a sign that those are less developed cultures.  And if you look into it, eating dogs isn't even an ancient tradition in China anyway, it is much more recent. Much of it is just GREED as there is a billion dollar industry in China for exotic and wild animal meat. That and some odd Chinese "voodoo" / "traditional Chinese medicine" belief that eating these animals increases your stature and "luck". Which can also be said about the market for rare and often endagerd species like Bengal Tiger paws and other parts in the Chinese apothecary trade.

    China needs to change a lot if they want to be accepted by the rest of the free world. They have done a good job of bull shitting the world for a long time, and now is the time we need to pull back the curtain and expose this damn commie country for the evil place it is.

    I have no problem with eating meat and I do. My argument is not a vegan argument.

  4. Looks like the Chinese under pressure to improve their current bad press over the  Wuhan virus have finally decided to join the rest of the civilized world.

    Only took these fucking assholes 20,000 years to figure out what cavemen understood a long time ago. Namely that dogs make better companions and working animals than they do as meals.

    Now I wonder if the Chinese will take the next big step and stop eating monkeys, bats, and rats too?

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  5. On 4/4/2020 at 12:22 PM, Badgeholder Still said:

    The mob wasn't in the business of creating gossip rag scandals. The mob used bullets or made people disappear, forever. Just ask Lee Harvey himself. They couldn't have cared less that Jack & Bobby were partying with interns during long lunches in the White House. They cared that their business, their money was being threatened by the U.S Attorney General and the policies he was pushing. RFK and a Kennedy administration were bad for mob business.

    It's the best answer for many as the truth, or other plausible scenarios, would keep them up at night.

    The idea that both JFK & RFK were killed by lone nuts... with all of the capable political enemies they created who had means, motive & opportunity.. . c'mon.

    Nah,  don't buy it. And while RFK suddenly became "bad for business" in terms of profits for the mob, it wasn't anything the mob  hadn't dealt with many, many times before and survived. Just because something is bad for business doesn't mean you react by making things possibly even more bad for business.  I think people watch too many movies about the mob and assume they just go off half cocked.  Well, maybe true later on as the commission began to loose some control over operations due to the high profits made by wild catters breaking off and doing their own drug deals. But in the early '60s most mob money was still made from gambling and sweet union deals.

    Old mobsters used to operate from a ideology of wanting only "to wet their beak" which was to be happy with a smaller percentage of money and staying under the radar, than doing things which drew a lot of attention.  And this is why the NY outfits really hated the way business was done in Chicago during prohibition. Not that NY didn't do business with Capone and company, but they didn't like the bad press.

    If a mob boss had ordered a hit on the president then he would so so at the risk of having others in the mob come after him.

  6. 6 hours ago, sixpense said:

    Honor Blackman RIP (Actress in The Avengers and Goldfinger) (Page was a session musician on the title track)

    RIP Pussy Galore!   She was hot at 20, hotter at 30---- hot till the end.

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  7. 1 hour ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

    If people want to do that, fine, they have websites for that all over the net, no need to fuck over the locals. That's what I don't understand. When al this started and my wife told me she could not find this or that I asked her to make me a list. The general merchandise stuff (TP, paper towels, etc.) I ordered from HD Supply and was at my door in 24 hours. Groceries I got from a survivalist site and I only got the necessities just in case, nothing more.

    The guy in the video that Kiwi posted was wrong for his actions, but only because he was violating the store's policy concerning limits on the item. Store can make any policy it wishes to stop hoarders--- or worse, resellers/price gougers.... I was not excusing his actions. But he may actually have a need for more than two of a particular item which is why I left the door open for the need to "stockpile".  And if you think about it in terms of the virus and social distancing, we actually do want people to stay home and not go out everyday in public--- possibly in crowds--- foraging for items to buy in crowed stores.  So having a bit more on hand in this situation is both prudent and helps with social distancing over a longer number of days or weeks.

    TP is a curious thing as in most of the world TP would be considered a luxury item.

    In my case I need to buy more food than many people because I am also buying for 3 other households which have people in their '80s and '90s who do have to stay locked down. So When I order 20lbs of rice, or a case of beans, it isn't just for me, but I'm sure it looks like I am hoarding.  Again, "stockpiling" is the more appropriate application. It is what the military must do-- or FEMA, or many other organizations which may have a sudden need to exponentially expand their supply lines during an emergency.  If you keep just what you need for only a few days, you may end up running short.

    About emergency water:

    Having some store bought gallons of drinking water is fine, but the better thing to do is have larger emergency containers of water. The water in those containers will in fact become non - potable in a shorter time that bottled drinking water, but it can be easily sanitized using some household bleach solution, iodine, or just putting in on to boil for 10 minutes.

    Everyone should have some of these filled with water for emergencies. And even if not to drink, but for bathing or washing dishes.

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  8. I have been eating a lot more fresh prepared foods since the virus. Lots of squash, peppers, beans, rice--- all cooked from scratch.

    Tonight I am making sauteed yellow squash with red bell peppers in a white wine cream garlic sauce with grilled Italian sausages from my local butcher shop.

  9. 1 hour ago, Kiwi_Zep_Fan87 said:

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    All I can say is hats off to the lady cashier who refused to serve this dick head, who tried to check out 24 bottles of water!

    I hate people who panic buy, when there are health care workers and the elderly who are being inconvenienced!!! :mad:

    There is a difference between stockpiling and hoarding. I live in earthquake country so we keep a lot of water handy in case services are disrupted for a period of time. The general rule is you need one gallon of water per person PER DAY.  Therefore those 24 bottles of water (assuming they are gallons) would be only enough for a family of four for 6 days. If you would expect the possibility of water supply being cut off for 2-3 weeks (which after hurricanes and other events has happened), then that same family would need to 'stockpile' 84-126 gallons of potable water.

    The thing with this virus is that safe water distribution from the local cities is not likely to be affected. Therefore the water coming out of the tap is perfectly safe to drink as long as the water supply infrastructure is still working. What I have noticed where I live is that a lot of newer immigrants from 3rd world countries are suspicious of the safe potable water here in America because where they come from the water infrastructure cannot be trusted and is unhealthy, so they panic buy water when they can just get it out of the tap.

  10. 32 minutes ago, chillumpuffer said:

    In these times of weirdness, I was queueing ( we do like to queue)  outside our village Post Office as it's one in one out. It was a pleasant afternoon and a few folks and myself were chatting away keeping our distance.

    It came to my turn and I pulled up my snood to protect both myself and the workers in the P.O. Immediately a guy came in, who hadn't bothered to queue, and almost stood next to me. He looked at me and said " good grief some people are taking it to the extreme"Even the Postmaster got a bit angry. What a fucking prick. What exactly did he think he was doing. We have to protect ourselves and others and he didn't give a shit.

    Some people are just clueless. I guess they either don't read the papers, or believe this highly infectious virus is a hoax or something.

    I was reading a local report where a police officer wrote a fine to someone who he observed spitting on the sidewalk, a violation which has been on the books for over 100 years but never enforced. Anyone who thinks about some of these social distancing requirements and other health violations like expectorating in public only needs to read the history books to know why they were important.

    Years ago I read that in Singapore you could get 6 months in jail and a good whipping for spitting on the ground.  We in western cultures could use some of that stern enforcement to get stupid people to follow the program.

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