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  1. On 6/21/2020 at 4:28 AM, SilverVishnu said:

     

    Hey cool thread, Dan thanks for popping in. My best thoughts with you today for Father's Day and tomorrow.

    Would you be willing to share any stories or answer a few questions if we organised a group Q&A? I understand you'd only be going on memories of stories that may have been passed down to you.  There are certainly a handful of good anecdotes I can think of involving your Dad, many of them told differently each time I come across them. Would be fantastic to hear anything you might like to share.

    That would be wonderful, I would love to participate if you'd be inclined.  I have a YouTube channel devoted to Bonzo's drumming and it would be great to hear from you about your father and his relationship with Bonzo. Are you a musician, Dan? 

  2. This topic comes up from time to time, and it still amazes and frustrates me that more footage, alternate takes, Bonzo's solo (!!!) can't be cobbled together for a special release. Something like... "The Song Remains The Same -  An Alternate Perspective "

     

    Maybe it has something to do with the rights owner of the film..(Warner) ??  How happy would all Zep fans be if they had the fantasy sequence footage replaced with the actual playing,  (do you mean to tell me the dumb ass film crew didn't get Jimmy's solo on No Q or Bonzo's drum solo??) or alternate versions of songs , or even a full stage view , house shot  ( like the end of Rock and Roll) . I'll never understand how there could be so many gaps , these guys must've been hacks.  Probably will never happen and the film will just rot in the vaults. 

  3. On 9/2/2015 at 7:39 PM, Moddey Dhoo said:

    Hopefully someone out there has heard the same tthing I heard. I am a guitarist not a drummer, but I have never heard anything like this before. It is on the LZ DVD, disc #2, select interviews and promos, then select promos. The'fillersong' here is The Song Remains the Same. Bonzo is incredible on this! I have never heard him play this fast before! No overdubbing has been done on this version. 

    Two questions for you drummers, could this be double bass drums? The footage is to grainy to tell? 

    Second question, when and where was this concert and is there a soundboard recording of it?

    Thanks, I have always been intrigued by just this very small snippit of perfection, it's a shame it wasn't of better quality so as to be used in the DVD in its entirety.?

    No soundboard, only the excellent audience tape. 

    The footwork is impressive but it's actually not that difficult if you practice it . He was playing quick doubles , which is a signature of his right foot technique. You can hear it also in Achilles Last Stand, Dazed and Confused live and Whole Lotta Love live etal.  Good Times Bad Times is more challenging. The only studio track I think he may have used two bass drums for was Bonzo's Montreux.

     

    Here is a demo that I did of that version

     

     

  4. On 5/30/2020 at 1:15 AM, pluribus said:

    Nothing tops the solos from 1973. C'mon now. 1975 and on were more dramatic because they were capitalizing on the legend of the song, and Page compensated for his diminished fluency. The better solos from 73 are absolute masterclass in phrasing and technique. The one used in The Song Remains The Same stands out as an obvious example.

    Totally agree. What's with the rose colored ears and '75..seriously?  Not even close to 71-73. 

  5. Graf Zeppelin's is my fav for the audience merge. The sources are clear, the edits well done and Moby Dick is also complete which bizarrely wasn't the case for pretty much all prior releases. For me a matrix works best if you have most of the show in both SBD and Aud. This show is a typical '73 incomplete SBD. Still I'm surprised no one did a decent matrix recently. Seems like the era of matrixing was 10-15 years ago. Am I wrong ? 

  6. 7 hours ago, 1998giventofly said:

    I agree, the true vinyl versions are much better. I think I had come across your rip, it was very nice! I'm not a huge fan of what Wendy did to it, their EQ work is odd. But Liquid Led did some awesome work with it, I still haven't heard a better version. A while back I was playing around with the vinyl version and was able to boost the guitar a fair bit with a compression VST in Audacity; I'll have to look back at some point here and get that finished up. Currently working on a RAH '70 project!

    That's great, I have Audacity...maybe I'll try tweaking it a bit but I'm really novice at sound production. Looking forward to your RAH. Still maddening that they never put out a stand alone release . 

  7. On 5/19/2020 at 7:47 AM, 1998giventofly said:

    Absolutely! The Liquid Led one in particular was great, it's my go to version for that show.

    Pb is always better than any Mudslide release. Brighter and clearer. Not much that can be done to correct the level fluctuations and low guitar because as far as I know, there is no "tape"I version. They all come from vinyl. I ripped my original copy of Pb and  shared it on dime a while back. I believe Liquid Led and Wendy used my rip because the track timings for both of those are identical to mine and sound very similar. If you can find the Liquid Led online to download , grab it...or the Wendy version. They also added the audience source missing songs. 

  8. 4 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

    I understand what you are saying but an official release would sound even better, and have the advantage of true professional distribution. The only people looking for boots are hard core fans. 95% of LZ fans are not looking for boots, they want an official release.

    I did not get my first LZ boot until the mid-80's and that was the Ally Pally December 72' (last show). I had not acquired bootleg ears so after one listen I threw it away as I thought the sound was absolute shit. Did not get another boot for almost 25 years I was so disappointed in the quality of that Alexandria Palace show.

    Absolutely. The notion that the boot would have any effect on official sales is ludicrous. Casual to semi-serious fans will buy the official release, not even being much aware of a boot... hardcore fans will likely buy it too , even if it's edited to death, like the other official live releases. 

  9. On 4/20/2020 at 6:52 PM, LurksReturnington said:

    there's a fresh vid on youtube that claims its a click track.. and its a guitar lesson. 

     

    For once and for all...It's clearly not a click.  If you try to align with a metronome, the tempo drifts. Even Rick contradicts himself ( sort of ) here. At the beginning he calls it a click but at the end he says " hand drums" , so who knows why he said "click" at the beginning. You can clearly hear that Bonzo is phrasing with those sixteenths , playing with a feel for the rhythms of the guitars.  There is variance and dynamics.  When you listen to the isolated track, it's very obvious. Whether it's on a guitar case, or a rubber waste bin, it's human not mechanical.

    Also, I wish I could've done that drum demo...that guy was not happening. 

  10. Fantastic! I'm looking forward to delving into your book. I have a YouTube channel devoted to Bonzo's drumming and I've always been curious to learn more about his work in the studio, the kits he used , miking...his overall approach to recording. Would you be up for a chat sometime, either email or by phone? Here is a link to my channel. 

     https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyPPcUtsiLoagS62b4qkYtg 

     

    Kind thanks, George

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