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On 17/12/2016 at 5:30 PM, porgie66 said:
Another pic from the session. Anyone know who the drummer is?
The drummer looks like Rufus 'Speedy' Jones to me.
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I put on the HOTH companion disc yesterday & was blown away by how good it is, really glad I bought all these now as they're a real treat to go back & listen to, the different mix of Dancing Days sounds great, the instrumentals are superb & the Rain Song with the louder drums is a thing of rare beauty.
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1 hour ago, babysquid said:
Hmmm... I'd heard that it was something to do with his surname and Percy Thrower a well known tv gardener at the time.
That's the one I've heard & seems the most likely to me.
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I love Sunshine Woman (some of Page's funkiest playing) & the '71 Communication Breakdown on the 3rd disc is absolutely killer.
I also spent Saturday afternoon listening to the '71 show (second CD) & had forgotten how good it was, great versions of Since I've been loving you, Stairway to Heaven, Whole lotta love & Thank You. Does anyone else think that Page's guitar could do with more distortion on that gig though, especially on the first two numbers & Black dog?
Another minor criticism is the track listing, my booklet is a nightmare to read & I feel that a track listing for each disc should've been somewhere on the inside cover.
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2 hours ago, JTM said:
Same here in '97, that's a downer though not having the tracks for your commute, or your lunch break, bummer...
To be fair, the people on my train tend to get a bit upset when I start doing my John Bonham air drumming & accompanying facial expressions along to the music.
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21 minutes ago, JTM said:
Not in my library either, tbh I could not care less I'm only buying this release to save having a hole in my (official) LZ collection, I've got all The BBC recordings on boots anyway...
I bought the BBC Sessions, the day it came out in '97, I just wanted to have a wee listen to the 3rd disc on my way to work & was unable to.
I seem to recall Amazon having similar issues with the other recent reissues.
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Has anyone else in the UK ordered from Amazon & if so, has it appeared in your library yet?
I can't see it in mine & have been refreshing it like someone playing Honda in Streetfighter 2, circa 1993.
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Jsj you are bang on the money:
"The other thing with this round of rereleased is that for all the interviews and promotion that Page has done, what have we learned that is new really? Not a lot, he trots out the same old stories he has done for decades and gets very defensive when probed on anything that isn't standard fare Q&A stuff. His refusal to concede in anyway that his playing suffered through his heroin years is laughable. I don't want him to get all confessional and contrite about that time, like many rock stars later do, but to be in denial of any effect on his playing at all wins him no new friends.
I noted that in the edition of Mojo magazine after their Physical Graffitin special a reader wrote in to complain that the lack of probing questions and acceptance of Page being allowed to use his standard party line speech rendered the article pretty much just a promotional item for the album rather than any aspect of journalism which even to a fan like myself also seemed the case."
Page got so defensive and indignant when journalists dare ask a question that wasn't a pat on the back or a glowing compliment. He just whitewashed everything and wanted to talk about how brilliant the band were all the time. I suspect journalists did want to ask more probing questions, but they were told that if you do you will be barred from the next round of interviews. That's how the PR game works these days. This journo from The Guardian got sick of his evasion and put footnotes to his interview with him:
Another thing that is annoying is Page's lack of transparency with fans. It's not the 70s anymore, this veil of mystique and non-communication doesn't float in the era of social media. Since the demise of P&P, he says every year or so, I'm putting a new band together and it's going to be dynamite but that's all I can say. It's just smoke and mirrors. He hasn't done anything and just stringed along fans for years. Pick up the guitar Jiimmy and be more honest and open with your fans, who clearly love you.
Fuck the era of social media, this is Jimmy Page & if he doesn't want to tell a journalist something then he's more than entitled not to.
Good on him.
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Texas Pop in 1969 as well, there's footage & audio from that one.
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This is more of a question and not a mystery. I am almost finishing re-reading Mick Bonham's book about his brother John, "John Bonham: The Powerhouse Behind Led Zeppelin". It is a great book with insight into the Bonham Brothers early years. It seems that there was a lot of Love and some discord between them. They would have occasional arguments and fights between them which led them to not speak to each other for long periods of time (according to the book and Mick Bonham).
My question is: besides all that, I wonder why John Bonham never employed Mick Bonham in any formal capacity and on the Led Zeppelin payroll. As Johns assistant, photographer, etc... I know that Mick Hinton was Johns personal assistant and drum roadie and that Neal Preston was an official photographer and so on and so forth.
Let me backtrack for a moment. John did employ his brother and father and various friends but that was only in the building and re-building of various properties and farms that John bought. And lets not forget Matthew Maloney, John Bonham's chauffer and various other jobs that Matthew performed whilst an employee of John.
Any thoughts about this?
I would imagine that he didn't want his family seeing what the band got up to on the road. Given the stories about John Bonham's often generous nature, he would've looked after his family in other ways rather than employing them as members of the Led Zeppelin organisation.
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Thanks, I have seen that one before, I was really looking for one of him playing.
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It's odd that Page says it's Plant singing.
It sounds more like Richard Cole than Robert Plant.
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Before I get started on the rest of your post, can you just confirm how it's possible to write 'a few one hit wonders'?
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Imagine painting over one of Jimmy Page's guitars.
I can only imagine the bloke who done it was completely off his tits on Toilet Duck or something, what a twat.
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I prefer genuine, 'sloppy' drumming to overtly pretentious shit! Any guy who says that he's "studied" drumming is an asshole, IMHO! Drumming is an art! Stop making it so "academic"!
John Bonham went for a few lessons during his teenage years & said that he wished he'd stuck in with reading & writing drum music. He was clearly well versed in snare & kit rudiments, a quick watch of Moby Dick from the Albert Hall will tell you that.
If someone is studying something they love & trying to improve themself then I don't see how that makes them an 'asshole', you can understand written music & be the greatest technician around and still be very genuine in my opinion.
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Ginger Baker is a million times the drummer Lars Ulrich is.
One of the them revolutionised drumming, the other is a bog standard heavy metal plodder.
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Led Zeppelin III makes me want to cry it's so good.
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In post #11087, it looks like Jimmy is playing a left handed guitar (with the bow). Don't remember this being brought up, normally I don't notice these sort of things?
The picture is the wrong way round.
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With Page's money I don't get why the hell he lives in England. Crowded as hell and insane taxes. He should have asked "The Edge" during the making of "It Might get Loud" for advice. Edge is smart and bought some beautiful properties in Malibu California.
I do get the history of the house and the William Burges connection; it's a beautiful place. But when clowns like Robbie Williams can have the means to buy in your area? Time to ramble on. Lol.
Are there no clowns in California?
Maybe he loves England because it's his home.
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^^^^^^^The Vinyl edition is available to order from 11am 23/2/15, a little earlier for subscribers, I'll be on it tomorrow morning.
Everyone do yourself a favour and at least get the mag for the CD, you will not be disappointed. This an album of truly remarkable covers.
Absolutely love the covers of Down by the Seaside & Ten years gone.
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How so? By the time Jason came of age, he still wasn't half the drummer his father was - that's no intended insult, Jason is tremendous, but his father was simply extraordinary - and enough time had passed since the initial disbanding of LZ that the creative momentum between the surviving members had long since dissipated in a haze of tragedy and substance abuse, that's not to say any reformed LZ album wouldn't have been good to even truly great, but the sheer weight of expectation on such a release would have worked against it from the outset, and it wouldn't have been given a fair shake once it hit shelves... it's only very recently that Pink Floyd's The Division Bell is getting a fair reappraisal, two decades after it's release, public opinion can take time to accept anything new.
And no Bonzo = no Zeppelin, all four members were utterly irreplaceable in their respective contributions. take one away from the equation and it stops being what it was... and besides, had Zeppelin reformed, say, in 1990-91 after the remastered catalogue re-releases, the whole thing would have been a corporate nightmare, the very thing Robert Plant complained privately about with the 02 show; lawyers and business managers would have dominated the proceedings, ticket prices would have been outrageous, the kids wouldn't have stood a chance getting tickets, audiences would been largely made up of people eager to be seen and not because they loved Zep, and the whole affair would have been an unparalleled commercial bonanza but a complete artistic disaster. Plant would have bitterly regretted it had he went through with it, and Zep's name and reputation would have been tarnished thereafter...
No, they made the right decision in 1980, they made the right decision throughout the 1980's and 1990's, and thank goodness Plant made the right decision after the honorable 02 show in 2007... we all dearly love LZ and their timeless music, but the star that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and Led Zeppelin burned so very brightly whilst they were active. I choose to remember them as they were - the single greatest band that ever walked or ever will walk the planet, bar none - not as I hope they would be again sometime in the future, that future won't happen and shouldn't happen... as Tom Wolfe once wrote, "you can never go home again".
Couldn't agree more with that post.
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I think the decision is the second best decision in the history of rock music behind Jimmy Page's decision to form the band.
Allegedly.
Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience (Tour)
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I have to agree with this, quite apart from the points you have made - I find the lumping of Led Zeppelin's music in with mediocre piffle like Foreigner & Cheap trick a tad cringe worthy too.
I'm sure some people love to go along to see this stuff but it's certainly not for me & that's coming from a huge John Bonham & Led Zeppelin fan.