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15 hours ago, Klape said:
Hi steve, a little question, I guess the answer is "no" .. Did any member of Led Zep met with any member of Deep Purple ? thank you for your help as always
John Bonham was good friends with Glenn Hughes, I believe up until an incident involving Pat in the late 70s when they fell out. If you Google 'Glenn Hughes John Bonham' there's a picture of them together in 1976, looks like they're up to no good in a toilet or something (sorry, I can't seem to post it on here).
I also attended an Ian Paice drum clinic in Edinburgh in 1997 & someone in the crowd asked him about John Bonham, he said they were on good terms. -
Listen to rock music from 1968 (The Who, The Stones, Hendrix etc.), then listen to any rock music from 1969 onwards (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, James Gang etc.), the difference is clear for all to hear. The drums, the riffs, the sounds, the singing, the power, everything changed.
Other bands were involved like Cream, Blue Cheer, Vanilla Fudge and Iron Butterfly but I don't think any of them had anywhere near the lasting impact Led Zeppelin had.
I've written this on my phone so have not gone into great detail, which I'm sure someone more articulate than me will do.
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My favourites at the moment:-
Guitarists:-
1. John Mclaughlin
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Jimmy Page
4. Allan Holdsworth
5. Joe Walsh (pre-Eagles)
Drummers:-
1. John Bonham
2. Elvin Jones
3. Tony Williams
4. Bill Bruford
5. Bernard Purdie
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On Moby Dick at the Carnegie Hall gig:- "When it came to his full-scale workout, Bonham made good on his promise to be in top form. He summoned a demonic drum solo and flew around the kit with a speed and brute strength that was astounding. I saw Bonham play many more solos over the years but never with quite the same sustained attack."
Chris Welch.
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Given the amount of attention this gig is getting on another thread, I thought it deserved one of its own, seemingly one of their great early gigs but so little evidence of it exists. Is this picture from this actual show, was anyone on the forum at the gig & does anyone have anything else to contribute?
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Just as an aside, I absolutely love this one on the 'Vintage Swag' page of the website.
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23 minutes ago, IpMan said:
Fly was written and recorded in either June or July 1974. Kashmir was written and recorded in February 1974. Both bands interacted with each other and were both at Hedley Grange separated by three months. However, Genesis did not record any tracks at Hedley Grange in May when they were there, they wrote some of the tracks there but Fly was not written until the actual recording sessions a month or two later. PG should have come out no later than June 74' but Jimmy and his album art once again delayed release as it had to HOTH.
So, in closing it is very likely Kashmir influenced Genesis to write Fly as they likely heard the song before release. Whereas there is no way Fly influenced Kashmir unless Jimmy transcended time/space itself.
Thanks for the info, I've always wondered which one was recorded & written first.
I read a quote from Steve Hackett (I think) & he'd said that Fly on a Windshield was intended to sound like pharaohs coming down the Nile on a giant boat or something to that effect, what he perhaps should've said was that it was meant to sound like Kashmir. Would've been more succinct.
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26 minutes ago, JTM said:
I really don't get why there is discussion about this "non event", it's almost eighteen months away....Nothing will happen............
There will be a few magazine articles, people will go on about a mythical reunion & Jimmy Page will tell everyone how good they were again.
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Can anyone shed any light on what's happening here?
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You should see the rows on the smooth jazz forum I go on.
They make this place look like mums.net.
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9 hours ago, LedGirl said:
Sorry not sorry. Since when are there "rules" for being a proper fan? As much as I love the band I believe in keeping it real. I'm not anti-Robert. I respect him as a great rock singer and I respect his post-Zeppelin career. He's obviously matured with age. But he's not my favorite member of the band, for certain reasons. Sue me. No one "owns" Led Zeppelin fandom or defines what it's supposed to be. If you think he's the shit, then good for you. I'm a Jimmy person. And I'm hardly alone in my views.
I didn't say there were rules, it just seems odd that you've registered on the forum & have used your first three posts to slate Robert Plant & his 'cheesy shit'.
Personally I don't see the need to pick a band member, all four of them were great, they all had their faults too like any other human being.
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Some Zeppelin fan, your first three posts on the forum have been to slate Robert Plant.
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Rock'n'Bacon roll
Bron Y Aur Steak
Custard Pie
In My Time of Frying
Boogie with Tiramisu
Nobody's Fault but Wine
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On 23/04/2017 at 10:55 AM, SymphonyX said:
Seems a little weird and odd. Food does look healthy and good though.
They should probably sell Carouselambra Salad w/ Kashmir dressing
Wanton Soup w/ 4 Breadsticks special.
Good Thyme Bad Thyme herbal tea
Dazed & infused olive oil
Lemon (song) chicken
Whole Lotta Dove
Since I've Been Loving Stew
Black Eggnog
Tea for One
I could do these all day
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Here it is...
Said Page: "[John] and I were really good pals. We were really, really close in our musical collaboration, if you want… the camaraderie. And just the sheer fact that, you know… 'Bonzo's Montreux' [the drum solo by John Bonham, which is the seventh track on the band's final studio album, 'Coda'] says it all, really. It was just the two of us working on it over there in the studio." -
8 hours ago, And You Know How It Is? said:
Steve,
What is the story behind Bonzo's Montreux in September 1976? Was Bonzo was there alone, and Jimmy later added his electronic treatments from his home studio for Coda, or was jimmy in Montreux with Bonzo? I wonder what inspired Bonzo to record this? Know all were tax exiles in 1976, think the Bonhams were in the South of France, so wondered why Bonzo made the trip to Switzerland, and the general story of recording this drum solo.
Jimmy Page was with him in Montreux, I read an interview quite recently with him where he discussed the trip briefly, it might've been in MOJO magazine.
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Does Robert Plant live in London?
I'd always assumed he lived in the Midlands somewhere.
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31 minutes ago, JeffLZ said:
Is it an autobiography or biography? Did he write it or provide the information to the writer?
It's a biography written by Chris Welch.
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15 hours ago, dan_hin said:
Been awhile since I logged in. Yes, he was my father and yes he died on the 22nd of June 2007.
Sorry to read that, thanks for taking the time to log in & let people know.
From what I've read it sounds like your Dad was a really important part of the Led Zeppelin organisation throughout the 70s, something to tell the grandchildren about certainly.
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1 minute ago, TheStairwayRemainsTheSame said:
You're a dippy man if you'd describe Kashmir as a "kind of rock" it transcends genres like no other song. It is above classification.
I agree with that although what I meant was 'Middle Eastern-influenced' rock music, if there is such a thing.
Having checked the timings, it appears that Genesis were at Headley Grange around the same time as Led Zeppelin in 1974 so it's quite possible that one song influenced the other, there are definite similarities.
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2 hours ago, Mithril46 said:
Kashmir, absolutely. I wouldn't say much of the song is technically hard, however Zep did kind of invent this rock
"substyle". JPJ was familiar with mid-eastern music, even playing wise, whereas the others could play something but
were more fans of that style. So all around(composing and recording) this song was likely a monster project.
Listen to Fly on a Windshield by Genesis, which was recorded before Kashmir, Led Zeppelin didn't invent this kind of rock.
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32 minutes ago, porgie66 said:
Indeed!!
Yes, I read that too. You can see the spare snare on the stage in some photos. There's a show , Leicester 71 , where Bonzo breaks his bass drum head on Celebration Day.
Yeah, Hinton did say that he went through a few bass drum heads as the beater would fly off his pedal & the stick would go right through the head.
From my own experience of playing drums, that's the worst thing that can happen & you would be hoping the roadie could sort it out quickly (not that I ever had a roadie myself).
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18 minutes ago, porgie66 said:
Summon the time machine!! ?
Ha ha, if we had a time machine I reckon we'd have so much fun enjoying the music that the drum heads would be the last thing on our minds.
One interesting thing I read was an interview with Mick Hinton saying they had spare drums by the stage so if Bonham ever broke a head they would simply replace that drum as quickly as they could in between songs, I suppose it makes sense really but I don't think he broke that many heads as he hit the drums so sweetly.
Zeppelin Mysteries Hosted by Steve A. Jones
in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
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I'll need to dig out the interview but Bonham had heard that Hughes had been speaking with Pat, he turned up at a party drunk and ready to kill Hughes, I think there was a bit of a fracas and they never spoke again after that.
If memory serves me correctly, I think it was in Mick Bonham's book although I'll need to check, it might've been covered in the Trampled Underfoot book too.