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  1. nice. weird studio. very IKEA.
  2. I agree with you. The best songs of the night were Kashmir, For you Life and those that didn't rely on him being a virtuoso, a la 1968-73. Unfortunately he hasn't had the fluency since 1973. Page has tried to wing it twice before at Live Aid and, to an extent, The Atlantic Reunion and both were awful. I think it was the best Page could have done on the night. Sadly, he just isn't as good as he was in the early '70s.
  3. I follow a Bonham drum enthusiast on YouTube. He posted a link to this pic of Boham's kit in the Polar Studios, with the following: "Most die-hard Led Zeppelin scholars have always concluded it shoes the Silver Sparkle Ludwig kit Bonham received in 1975 (and allegedly used on the album Presence), but leading Bonhamolgist Nigel Foreskin has determined it to be : THE STAINLESS STEEL BONHAM GIGGING KIT." He also posted a link to a nice article on the closure of Polar studio with interesting stuff about Zep (I put the link to the full article at the bottom of the Zep content below): We sit down in the control room and Lennart Östlund finally finds a working socket for a CD-player. Proudly I pull out the surprise out of my bag, Led Zeppelin's last album "In through the out door" in a brown paper cover. Lennart was here helping to record it in December 1978. He hasn't really listened to it since then. -They were here for three weeks, they came on a Monday and left on a Friday. I remember that they weren't allowed to stayed at Grand (Hotel), because the drummer John Bonham had a bad reputation. But they were mellow. No one recognized them when we went out. The most important thing to them was that each week they'd have a cassette to bring home to their wives, as a proof that they had been working. He sniffs at the fact that three songs are missing on the CD. Then once again John Bonham's powerful drums echo throughout the studio. -He sat there, in the "stone room" in front of the cloud panel. With two sets of drums, Lennart Östlund remembers. But to get the right echo effect, we moved the speaker for the base drum out to the reception and put a microphone in front of it. He shows me the wooden room, where the guitar player Jimmy Page stood, and the soft room, the extremely dry, where Robert Plant sang what we're listening to right now. -Oh, he really sang false there, did you hear it? But it doesn't matter. These days you can correct things like that, but the music hasn't necessarily become any more fun because of that. We listen to another track. The next song begins with a synthesizer sound which sounds familiar. ABBA? Lennart nods. -Led Zeppelin liked ABBA. And that is really ABBA's synthesizer, the "Does your mother know"-synthesizer. I even think that Benny got the string sound from John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin's bass- and piano player). I call Benny back to check with him. -This is how it was, says Benny. I had the same synthesizer as Led Zeppelin, a so-called dream machine. It was there in the studio. So John Paul Jones just brought his own sounds with him and put them in. He has a fantastic string sound which he had made. "Oh", I said, "that sounds so good, can I have it?" -Then later I received a package in the mail with four cassettes in it. That string sound appears in many ABBA songs. I still use it quite often. http://www.saladrecords.com/PolarStudioClosesEN.htm
  4. The problem was that after Zep - who were the gold standard of rock - everything else Page did in the genre was never going to live up to the past. That's why he should have gone sideways and done more soundtrack work or something avant garde. DW 2 showed he was adapt at eerie soundscapes and in my opinion is some of his best post-Zep material. Plant went sideways for most of the '80s and so did Jones. Initially, it was the only way to go. Even Plant said he like dw 2 soundtrack but wasnt keen on the AOR Firm. Cadillac was cool because it wasn't a conventional rock song.
  5. I'm not saying he's not a good singer. Just that he's a bit of a twatt.
  6. "Gross Neanderthal". lol. Plant was probably a bit like Coverdale in his early twenties until he realised how absurd the whole game was and matured. Guys like Coverdale are cartoon-like caricatures with no depth. He's a poster boy for a certain brand of shallow LA rock. For all their faults, Plant and Page are cultured and have soul, That's what separates them from rock's masses. I think Floyd are the same.
  7. that would make an official chronological live album (if there were multitracks ;-)).
  8. Yip, just so frustrating that the one time P&P go to record new material and the approach is flawed. Massive missed opportunity. Has any rehearsal material surfaced from the WIC recording sessions? I've never heard any bootlegs from that, or indeed, from No Quarter 94.
  9. I find Albini extremely annoying in the clip above. He exudes a kind of pompous nerd-chic. Plant hired him, so they got what they deserved. I actually went on youtube and listened to a few tracks from WIC for the first time in ages. With the passing of time, and reduced expectation, it's actually not bad. Just not that memorable or rousing. A lot of it sounds like demos that could have been worked on more to produce a better result. But I know that Plant was going on for a live in the studio type thing. For me, the album validates Zep's decision to split after Bonham died and illustrates how integral all four band members were to the sound. You're only getting 50 % of the magic that was Zeppelin on WIC, and it shows.
  10. Thanks for posting that, Zepscoda. Hats off to Coverdale for not being bitter about Page jumping ship and forgoing a tour to reunite with Plant. After investing so much time in something, it would have been easy for Coverdale to be bitter about the whole experience. But he's always complimentary about Page in interviews and never has a dig. Well, not in public, anyway...
  11. Guys, you are completely over-analyzing this. Plant thought Coverdale was a twatt. Full stop. We all meet people in life we think are plonkers. Coverdale is not Plant's cup of tea.
  12. I could build a time machine for that price.
  13. I agree that Plant had a mid-life crisis. He did an MTV special in 1993 with his FON's band - rehearsals and loose interviews - and it was cringe worthy. Plant mincing around trying to impress his young band and acting half his age. It was while he was supporting Kravitz and his commercial popularity had nosedived. Within months Plant was back with Page again. Anyway, my point is that his disdain towards Coverdale was not really connected to his mid-life crisis, it was more that he detested that sort of glib AOR rock and the shallow lookalikes and Zep mimics. Remember, Plant was an archetype; Coverdale was a stereotype.
  14. More like Coverdale being a shallow poodle rocker.
  15. I doubt many people would call Plant pretentious. He is one of the most down to earth rock legends out there. So I don't get the pot calling the kettle bit. Plant's loathing for Coverdale, poodle rock and all the Zep imitators started way before the Page-Coverdale collaboration (just check out his interviews from the late 80s). I agree there was a bit of jealousy in there from Plant's side, but he always thought Coverdale was a tosser and talked like some faux-Shakespearean twat from way back.
  16. Agreed. You can see why Plant thinks he's a pretentious tosser.
  17. Unfortunately Page's best post-Zep playing was saddled with cheesy lyrics, overblown production and a cardboard cut-out frontman.
  18. It cracks me up how people say he'll either do another archive live release or a new album/tour. Plenty of artists of his vintage - Neil Young, McCartney - do both on a regular basis. He's already been through all the old tapes with KS and has earmarked the best stuff and probably transferred everything from tape to digital. He just needs to let a trusted producer/engineer get on with it and reviews the material as the project unfolds. Meanwhile, he gets his butt into the studio and gets playing.
  19. Right, January is nearly over. Anyone heard rumours about Page broaching musicians to jam new material or any other glimmer of hope? One down, 11 to go. Fuel the tour bus...;-)
  20. Don't they have phones in Costa Rica? Would take a few minutes to compose a tribute, even if on holiday. Page made a tribute and many other rock stars from that era commented as well, so to say "Why would he?" is silly. I'm not saying he should, I just asked has he?
  21. Has Plant released a statement or commented on Bowie's death?
  22. I've been following TBL for years and early on he did criticise Page. But back then it was a hobby and now it's his day job and it's how he makes his living. So it might be that he needs to way up being objective and peeing Page off and not getting any access for interviews, etc. (Although it's only recently that Jimmy granted Lewis his first on the record piece for TBL - the fanzine has been going since the late '70s). At the end of the day TBL is a "fanzine", not a piece of journalism, and is quite rightly infused with emotion, nostalgia and personal opinion. I think Lewis has done a great service to Zep fans over the years with providing info and reporting and I love his feather in the wind book. But, yes, his reluctance to critice Page over his repeated BS about playing live is a bit of a blind spot.
  23. People have argued that he got his mojo back on the outrider tour and p/p 98 tour, but for me after '73 he never fully regained his fluency, timing and confidence. The big question is not why he lost it in the first place - clearly heroin and alcohol - but why he never got back to his best after kicking smack. i don't buy the lack of practice argument. its a bit of mystery.
  24. The latest post on Tight but Lose by Dave Lewis has this " I mentioned last week there has been plenty of positive talk from the man himself that he will be out there playing – and there are plenty of sceptics out there who will believe it when they see it…. as I’ve noted before, as far I am concerned the man owes us nothing. I personally believe something special is going to happen ahead that will put Jimmy Page right back in the forefront of contemporary music" I respect Lewis, but to say that Page will do something that would put him "back in the forefront of contemporary music" is a very bold statement. Anyway, I hope Lewis has got some insider info to back up his belief that Page will be back playing live in 2016.
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