No musician will say they are in it for the money, aside from the likes on Gene Simmons. Do you just completely believe everything you assume?

Wow, Robin Fink leaving new Guns in going to affect touring of the Album, if and when it coems out. He's been there from almost the get go. as far as the new album is concerned.

Hey man, the Dude abides.

Right, because telling someone to fuck off, and attempting to end a conversation on a message board is real mature... I was stooping to your level if anything. You've made some pretty ignorant comments yourself. So stop trying to act high and mighty.

Fuck you. You Axl Rose ball licker.

Internet geek? You are here are you not?

Your idiocy level is astounding... Do you really think I'd have someone come in a topic to agree with me. You are not an intelligent person.

What did I tell you about this bullshit? "Drunk" was referring to me, in the post above yours? Is he spot on with his guestimations about me?

I love how you immediately tag me as some loud mouth who gets his ass beat. That's your wittiest remark? Getting into fights is embarrassing, not only for me, but for the people around me. I'm old enough (or mature enough) to know better. Second, do I need to justify myself, or my 3 years of Muay Thai, or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to you, about how I could possibly back myself up if need be? No, but it's a prime example of how fucking stupid and immature you truly are. Are you the idiot who goes around picking fights because you fail to come up with any intelligent thing to say in reply to a comment aimed at you? Am I right? Maybe you could send me a picture of yourself, and some girl you date-raped once, to me... So I can send it to www.Hotchickswithdouchebags.com. Because you are slowly fitting the profile. Maybe you should go and listen to your "trapt" cd. I know you have one... And you are very wrong, I don't cite behind the music at all, but I'm smart enough to know that, 3-4 of the other guys in that band, all saying the same shit, normally means that it's pretty much the way it happened. I'd take Izzy Stradlins word over any of those guys anyday. Why don't you look up some articles on www.Heretodaygonetohell.com about Izzy, and what went on (as he was the only sober observer from the inside) I do cite Slash's book as a decent source, as if he were lying about certain things, he could be sued. You must know that though, being as smart as you are... Lonely little dude? No, you've got me pegged completely wrong, which just goes to show how assessments like that, make you look like a complete ass. My stupidity? How many people here are completely against you in this argument? You sound like a complete fucking moron. The simple fact that you had the audacity to comment on a band situation, when you don't even play an instrument, is pretty solid proof that you are a moron. That's like me commenting on stock trading, when I know nothing of the market itself.

Let me tell you something. You are the only one here who is misinformed, and not only that, you are probably, the most biased person here. I know this, because I am probably the most well informed, and knowledgeable about the band known as Guns 'n' Roses. And you are wrong, I am a fan of Axl Rose. I don't care for him as a person, and I don't like the fact that he alienated the people who helped make Gn'R what they were. The sad fact about you, is that, you fail to realize this. And another sad fact, is that you are on his nutsack. What I like about Axl, is his voice, and ability to write lyrics. But I dislike the fact that he wanted to transform Guns into something they weren't. Maybe you should do us all a favor, and stay the fuck out...

How old are you? You should seriously go take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself how you came to be. You are a sad, little worthless Axl Rose loving freak .

"Electricretard"... man, if I was intelligent as you, there wouldn't be anything I couldn't accomplish. You are a funny guy... this coming from the idiot who named himself "DRUNK". I can go anywhere I please., and post anywhere I please. You are so far gone from realty, it's a sad fact actually. It's unbelievable how much of a cock sucker you really are. Do you remove Axl's cock while you sit and type at the computer?

I've heard plenty of the "New Material" I heard it broadcast on Eddie Trunks radio show. I heard it all over the net a couple years ago. Some of it was good, some of it was epic bullshit. It sounded like the all Axl.

Listen here asshole, if anyone is biased, it's you. You are so far up Axl Rose's ass, that you can barely see any sunlight. Don't tell Jahfin to go fuck himself, he has every right to voice his opinion. You are as closed minded as all other Axl fans. You believe that "Chinese Democracy" will be such a great album, because he was the true talent of Gn'R. Which you are wrong. That band was made up of five people, communicating certain ideas to one another. And you will never hear anything like it again. Like I said, if you knew anything about being in a band situation, or playing a lick of music yourself, you might have a certain idea. But you don't, you hack. What defines success?

Jerry Cantrell is simply amazing when it comes to writing. His singing is amazing as well. The rest of the band, Sean Kinney, Mike Inez, Layne Staley... A great fucking band. If you don't have Boggy Depot or Degradation trip, pick them up. Very much worth it.

Like where, Britain? I personally like Axl as a frontman, aside from the bullshit he pulled/pulls on occasion. He stuck up for a fan getting his ass beat by security once, and had the security guard ejected. What I don't like, is people not knowing what the fuck they are talking about, and considering Axl, gods gift to Rock n' Roll. In my opinion, he was one of the best around. But he did pretty much kill his band with his antics and he still doesn't know what he had as a band, as far as Slash and co. goes.

While I do disagree about the music putting people into a coma comment, I've had a healthy obsession when it comes to Guns, Zeppelin, Van Halen, Tom Petty and ect...

Another Axl Rose ball licker... What was the point of this post? Like Axl didn't shit on his fans? Axl has been known to go on three hours after the opening act was done. Are you denying that he ever did something like this? And you are dead wrong. Axl didn't start going on late until 90 or so. When they were touring the Illusions albums. Maybe even as late as 91. When the tours were at their biggest.

You are wrong. Izzy laid down basic scratch tracks, and that was it. He wasn't involved in any lead playing, save a few solo intros. Axl brought way more attitude then Duff. How you came to that conclusion is beyond me. Again, it's been said on numerous occasions that Steven brought a better feel, over Sorum, by the guy who was in charge of finding replacement players (Slash). In case you and Drunk didn't know, Slash was in charge of finding Izzy's replacement, and Steven Adlers as well.

Here we go... you don't know a damn thing. Why do you bother to comment, when the people who were there living it, said that they had a hard time, a very hard time replacing Steven Adler. You know nothing of making music. Shit, I remember a topic you started, about wanting to learn the guitar, several months ago. You don't have any idea what a drummer brings to the table. Because you don't know a thing about drumming. You don't know anything about Gn'R, I remember a few other topics, one on the old board for example, where you started conversation about Gn'R. And yes, I own numerous magazines, and completed Slash's book (Didn't hear anyone inside the band denying anything against his book) Axl Rose is not consistent, simply because he refuses to comment on anything. Izzy Stradlin never said anything about the touring process. He was tired of Axl Rose's shit, and the drug usage. Flying was also an issue. Izzy had quit the band, pre- Slash, numerous times before due to Axl audtioning new people w/o Izzy's consent.

Drummers easily replaceable? And you know this how? By playing guitar for how many months? You've pretty much insulted all drummers with your stupid comment. And you say I'm ignorant? And yes, you need to get your facts straight. You don't know a damn thing about Guns n' Roses and it clearly shows. Izzy left the band for two reasons, he felt that he was dictated to on a serious level, and yes, the drugs and alcohol did play their part. I'm uninformed? Seriously dude, look in the mirror. I'll blow you out of the water when it comes to Gn'R knowledge. Do you know what propaganda is? I'm a firm believer that hearing the same thing from Duff, Izzy and Slash about Axl Rose clearly outlines what the situation was really like. Also, If you ever run into Duff or Slash, ask them how easy it was to replace Steven Adler.

I said you were a fool, and stand by my remark. Steven Adler worthless? Pretty much everyone in that band, aside your boy Axl disagrees with you, and all have gone to state how much of a groove he brought. second, Axl Rose was also the driving force behing the horn arrangments, and over-production behind the illusion albums. Axl was also responsible for the bloated live shows, insane amounts of money spending, and complete lack of care for fans. The first Snakepit album had some solid rock songs, only Eric Singer single-handedly brought the sound down with his singing. I've had countless arguments with you about Guns n' Roses, and everytime I have to put you in your place. Here's a good example... Slash and Duff were pretty much forced out, due to asinine contracts Axl was wanting him and Duff to sign. He essentially was forcing them to become hired hands, or backing musicians, as he was the sole owner of the name (which we all know how he got). You don't give Izzy Stradlin enough credit. Izzy was the one Axl needed the most. Izzy wrote a lot of the Riffs you hear on Appetite, and lyrics as well. He left for the same reasons. It's kind of ironic that all members state that Axl was a dictator. Do you not believe them? Read the Slash biography.

You're a fool. Axl Rose was part of Guns. Slash would have found something sooner or later, had he not stumbled upon Izzy and Axl. They were all part of what made Gn'R so great. Shit, even Steven Adler added a large part, just with Drumming alone.

Izzy Stradlin's departure, killed the band.

Take a guess...