Rock Historian
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Thank you.
Every one I've found in good shape is going for $120 or more
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Figured I'd try my luck here in case anyone has an extra (I know it's a long shot).
I had this shirt from the tour, my first concert. I lost it in Hurricane Katrina over 15 years ago. I have found on various pages but with a heavy price tag.
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"OH JIMMY"
My first concert was Jimmy Page at the Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans, 1988.
With Led Zeppelin he did not just write great songs, he wrote Masterpieces. His guitar riffs and arrangements are the mightest the world has ever known. His music changed my life at age 14.HAPPY BIRTHDAY SIR!
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I have come to the conclusion that I have little or no interest in listening to any of Roberts new music. It doesn't do anything for me other than for the fact of who he is, singing the songs. There is not enough energy in his collaborations with Allison or with the SSS, to make me listen to more than a song or two or buy the albums.
I held on for a long time with his ever changing solo career, always defending him to those who expected him to still be the Golden God and play with Led Zeppelin, blah blah blah...
For the last 10 years or so the music has been pretty much the same sounds to my ears. While I appreciate his contributions I find it hard to listen to anything new from him. it just isn't exciting to me
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On 4/20/2021 at 9:45 AM, Bonzo_fan said:
You left out the best '73 version IMO: July 21 in Providence!
July 17 Seattle and July 20 Boston are excellent as well.
I just listened to half of the Providence concert and so far it is my favorite performance from that year.
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On 11/19/2021 at 11:53 AM, BobDobbs said:
It really is hard, for me at least, to pin down just three shows. Of course they were hot as F from 69-72' with every member bringing their A-game pretty much nightly, but the other years are just as good but on an inconsistent basis, or, Robert's voice issues 73-75'. In 73' you have the absolute consistent peak of instrumental tightness during the European tour and pretty damn good during the NA shows, only problem is Robert's voice on a few shows. In 75' it's just all over the place, great shows instrumentally but with really bad vocal problems from Robert in most cases. D&C & MD were just bloated by this point but when they hit it they REALLY hit it well in 75', just hard to find a show with all the element present. 77' has Robert almost back to 72' form and actually meeting it in several shows plus the instrumental machine of Jones & Bonham it possibly at their best ever. In 77' Jimmy was the "unknown factor" which would either tank the show or bring it to a new level. Sure there is Tempe and other sub-par shows but then you have Cleveland 4-28, Pontiac 4-30, Landover 5-30, The whole NY & LA runs for the most part. For 79' you have four shows, two of which were excellent with 7-24 in their top 10 shows of all time IMO, one mediocre (8-4) and one which goes from brilliance (communication breakdown) to disaster (STH) and back again (8-11). Europe 80' is another mixed bag but only three or four shows consistently good from start to finish.
I think a better approach which was mentioned earlier would be best shows ranked either by tour or by year due to the different approaches used for each tour. Can anyone really compare 9-19-70 to a 75' or 77' show with all the stage production of those later tours? It really is apples to oranges as the overall approach was completely different.
I feel the same way about Plant's vocals on the (good) 77' shows.
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Municipal Auditorium August 29, 1971
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I just stumbled across this show today and from what I've heard so far this could be (arguably) the best concert of the North American tour 1973, that is audio documented.
The performance is top notch, and it's better than average sound quality for an audience recording. Figured I'd share it with ya'll.
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On 9/7/2021 at 6:01 PM, SuperDave said:
I'm with you on this! I can't wait. Rolling Stone gave it a very good review. They just wish it didn't end in 1970! It would be nice if they continued with this. Next part from here through Earls Courts shows and last part from Robert's car accident till the end and some post Zep. We can always dream!
I don't think your dream is too far from possible. It makes complete sense to show their entire career, with so much music and history that came after 1970.
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Bottom line.
1.Everything is a risk, whatever you chose.
2. There is an uncertaintly, either way
3. Politics don't help in making a rational decision
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Regardless of footage seen or unseen, can anyone here really complain about an official release authorized by the band, the first of its kind?
There has always been talk of 3 shows pro-shot from the 77' tour. Pontiac being one, with the largest indoor crowd recorded at that time. Seattle 7-17-77, the one most have seen and Houston from what I have read.
I think it is a matter of what audio or video footage is worth releasing, in terms of quality and performance, not so much a lack of material.
A Live compilation album was considered even when they were still a band but they could not agree on the material to use.
Whether this is what was used in 2003, not sure.
Just Be Happy - this film should bring you joy
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Interesting interview on Bonhams influence and mark left on Cozy Powell
https://sites.google.com/site/powellitepalace/home/cozy-talks/interviews/the-lost-interview
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Boy, ya'll are a bunch of miserable, whiney ass people.
Almost every comment is a complaint (about Dave Grohl) And the book hasn't even been released yet. It's just a forward people, relax.
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Any news on the release date of the official Zeppelin documentary that was supposed to be released in 2019?
I remember listening to audio clips from Page and Plant in May of last year about it's progress and the director of the project. It was initially said to be released in 2019 as a 50th Anniversary celebration, and then in the months to follow all the buzz/news fell silent.
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Greetings - it has been a long time
This was a hot Topic to generate excitement in May of last year and now nothing in terms of a release date, progress, etc.
Anyone?
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Enjoy listening to Robert Plant talk about his travels and the stories behind these selected tracks.
Always intetesting
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When is the release date?
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I'm surprised Jason Bonham didn't inherit it in some way, or try and bargain it back.
he was/is a fan of motor cross so the interest in bikes is there-and it was his dad's
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My wife and I went and saw Rush on May 22nd here in NOLA.
It was my 8th time seeing them and our 4th time together.
It was the most ( and only) disappointing Rush show I've been too, in terms of sound quality.
It was horrible. Some friends sitting in different sections shared the same experience. The Arena (newly named the "Smoothie King Arena) isn't set up for concerts. It's a fucking sports Arena, so there ya go.
UNO Lakefront Arena, was and still is a fabulous place for concerts.
Also, they seemed to me to be going through the motions. Not much chatter with the audience at all between songs, and the set list hasn't veered much in 7-8 years.
If I never hear Tom Sawyer, Closer to the Heart or Working Man (live) ever again, I'd be fine with that.
It was great to be there but it was sort of a let down.
I think this will be my last time seeing them, even if they tour again at some point.
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This perception of Page being sloppy was created by the post Van Halen era guitarists from the 1980s who all thought that they could become the Mozart of the guitar. Speed picking, scalloped fretboards, pointless sweep picking, pinch harmonics, quoting Paganini, etc. And yet, every single one of them cited players like Page as a huge influence.
The trouble was that instead of being influenced by the phrasing or feel of the music (as embodied by players like Page, Hendrix, Beck, and Green), you instead had decades of guys who dissected the playing of their influences as if it was a recipe for making a cake. Add one part excessive solo + hair + stupid raunchy guitar face + horrible outfit. This is why the guitar playing from the 1980s is largely soul-less, because you had guys who thought it could be done like a formula. Just sad.
That's where the "sloppy" comments came from, because that's exactly what a hack would say when they can copy everything else yet still not get it to sound "right". And this is why pretty much any stranger on the street can recall something that Jimmy Page played on the guitar while nobody has even heard of the likes of Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani, or Yngwie Malmsteen.
Best post on this topic, sir!
I agree 100%
Although, I wouldn't say folks in general haven't heard of Satriani, etc, it's just that none of their solos were memorable enough to recount, hum, etc. They were 80% flash, which to me is just throw away notes if they are not put into any sort of context or melody.
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"The Van Hagar era"... "Sammy hits"... me me me me me me me memememememememememe... I I I I I I I I I I I I I I IIIIIIIIII... please somebody tell me he's kind of mocking himself here because if he's serious, he's hilarous for all the wrong reasons.
There are a lot of people including myself that felt that the "Van Hagar" era was better in some ways. Many people refer to that era as such (even though it sounds goofy) it's the reality of reference. I don't think he was mocking himself so much as he was pointing out how his time with VH is referred to by fans and critics alike.
Musically speaking, the "Van Hagar" era had a good number of well written songs and a more mature approach to song writing in general. The 5150 album is one of Van Halen's finest moments through and through. Like it or not, they wrote good music together. Diamond Dave was a complete showman. Hagar was a better vocalist. I know there are many threads on this topic (who's the favorite) so I'm trying not to go there, but your comment sparked a need to engage.
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From the signature triplets, to the inimitable right foot, to the larger than life trademark "sound". The all around drummer. With incredible technique, infectious groove, finesse, power, dynamics and musicality. Never overplaying or underplaying a song. He was and still is the ultimate.
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Well, it certainly seems possible, based on the above info. I am surprised and disappointed at the same time. I always thought that his guitar work on Radioactive was very unique, and a credit to his versatility, but that is now in jeopardy. Thanks for the info.
His guitar work and legacy is in jeopardy (in your opinion) over one guitar phrase/solo?
Placing CODA tracks to original albums
in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Posted · Edited by Rock Historian
Has anyone ever wondered what the albums would sound like with the unreleased tracks put in?
Has anyone tried it and if so, what order did you place them?
Example: I think ITTOD would have ended well with Wearing and Tearing.