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jmorton

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  1. I think this album could do with a remix and I'd love to see a boxed set because their writing sessions were fully documented by Coverdale on video. Also the 4-5 leftover songs and the ideas for the follow up would make a pretty wonderful boxed set methinks.
  2. I'm 90% certain the "tension" between Page and Clapton was addiction related. It was kind of dismaying to hear Page a couple years ago downplay/deny his drug addictions in an interview (the one with Chuck Klosterman maybe?) when it was obvious to everyone. That being said his post cocaine addiction; his Firm tours were pretty good albeit a bit safe, the solo Outrider tour was less safe but consistent, the CP Japan tour was again very consistent, the Page/Plant 95-96 tour was up and down (drinking I assume), the 98 tour was possibly his best post 1975, the Black Crowes tour was also great (although I think his drinking was beginning to play havoc again ... maybe providing the impetus for him to give up drinking entirely). I've always felt that Page's nerves and the lack of addictive crutch has contributed to his unwillingness to tour solo since 2000. Some of those Black Crowes 2000 tour dates were great. Particularly the first handful.
  3. Interesting tid bit from Coverdale regarding one of the songs on the upcoming Whitesnake album "The riff-heavy Flesh & Blood includes one track, "Gonna Be Alright," built from a riff written for what was supposed to be a second Coverdale-Page album with Jimmy Page that never transpired. "It's been sitting gathering dust for 20-odd years 'til destiny proved (Hoekstra) was the one to finish it off for me," Coverdale notes."
  4. You can tell the album was filled with good ideas but they really didn't have "songs". They went with the underproduced, minimal overdubs approach. I think Shining in the Light is the closest they came on the album to an actual completed thought but even that kind of goes on too long. Sons of Freedom bugs me as a song for a short (ish) uptempo song in rambles so much. It was a good album but not much more than that. Blue Train could have been an epic and whenever I listen to the album I come away slightly disappointed it wasn't...just, MORE than it was. And yeah, it was very much sounding like Jimmy Page as the guitarist in Robert's band.
  5. Here is a direct link to the Coverdale Page discussion between DC and Trunk It's been amazing to me how Jimmy and Coverdale have remained friends after all this time all things considered.
  6. I never believed that other bands were "jealous" of Zeppelin. The Stones, most of all, had zero reason to be jealous particularly in the 1970's. I believe the dismissive comments all tend to center around Plant and Bonham. Bonham because he was seen as a "basher" of the drums (loud, unsubtle). We all know that is wrong and was a stereotype of Zeppelin's music. Plant I think made his own bed at times, as he tended to be a bit braggadocios and would throw shade at other acts. That's just who he was at the time and remained that way for some time. Whereas established acts in England all knew who Page and Jones were ... at least to some extent because of their studio time and (for Page) the Yardbirds stint. Bonham and Plant were newcomers. I can't speak to the North/South divide in England but that could play a factor as well. I do know that Blackmore speaks highly of Page as a songwriter and said that he and Jimmy lived in the same Village
  7. This is an interesting subject. Coverdale is much more straightforward than Plant. Always has been. His quote about his lyrics is "well...I ain't Billy Shakespeare, mate". He's aware of what he writes and doesn't try to force himself out of it. He did it in Deep Purple on the songs Burn and Stormbringer to mixed results. Whereas some of his best lyric writing has been on straight up blues songs such as Mistreated, Crying in the Rain and even Don't Leave Me this Way. Everyone here knows about Robert and what he writes. Coverdale Page was the most successful post Zeppelin solo original album after Now and Zen (excluding No Quarter/Unledded). As someone pointed out, it succeeded despite no North American tour, no European tour and merely a 7 date run in Japan in December of 1993. On the flip side it's quite fascinating how Walking into Clarksdale failed commercially as much as it did. I remember feeling that it should have done better, and THAT had a major tour (saw them at Red Rocks that go round). I feel by the late 90's the Zeppelin nostalgia train had dried up outside of tours and, quite frankly WIC was under-produced and maybe too minimal in it's construction. Who knows. Coverdale went back to Whitesnake and never looked back. The myth is that DC has been pining away for Jimmy when in reality Coverdale left the project and has shown little to no desire to revisit outside of remastering the original album (which it badly needs). The latest Whitesnake 1987 box set is something I would love to see them do with the CP album. There's a CD in that box set called "Evolutions" where songs are constructed from demo to final form and it's extremely fascinating to listen to. I don't care for the album itself, but it is magnificent quality for money.
  8. As I remember, the US was in the midst of a fairly large recession in 1993 and all acts besides the mega-popular current acts (Metallica/Guns and Roses tour) were suffering with tickets and album sales. As a result the music business in general didn't pick up until mid 1994. Even Robert's Fate of Nations tour was fairly modest venue-wise in the US. Unwillingness to downsize was a fairly stubborn decision that contributed to the project's demise. However, considering there was no US tour to support the album it sold remarkably well. If it was released in late 1991 it may have sold even more.
  9. Coverdale has been talking about the idea of doing a remix re-issue of Coverdale Page. I'd welcome that to be honest. I thought the production was very 90's and it could benefit from a fresh eye and approach. Lots and lots of video from the CP tour has emerged on youtube. Many of the live versions are superior, particularly Take Me for a Little While, Absolution Blues and Don't Leave Me This Way (sans drum solo). The interesting to me is DC claiming they started on new material before Peter Mensch (who I THINK was Jimmy's manager at the time) put an end to it. This isn't the first time he's said that. I'm curious about the timeline because I always thought they shook hands after the Japanese tour and parted ways. When did Jimmy get a commitment from Robert on the MTV thing? Did they start on new material in the mid-year period between the release of Coverdale Page and the Japanese Tour in December? I'd be curious to find out. Also, I believe Coverdale initiated legal proceedings against Geffen in the late 90's and early 00's that resulted in him reacquiring publishing rights to all of "his" material under Geffen. (Slide it In, Whitesnake, Slip of the Tongue, Coverdale Page). Thus dealing exclusively with EMI on any future release for Coverdale Page.
  10. I actually kind of like that Jimmy sounds irked. If you go by the timeline's since the early 90's, getting annoyed with Plant has spurred him to work. 1990-91 - Robert says no to Zeppelin reunion (Page mentioned his annoyance with Plant about this multiple times including a CP interview with Red Beard) 1991-93 - Coverdale Page project 1998-99 - Plant pulls out of protracted Page and Plant world tour. Jimmy says in interviews it was Robert who pulls the plug 1999-00 - Jimmy Page goes out with the Black Crowes. I think, if this means anything (which is probably doesn't) then Jimmy is sufficiently annoyed at Plant to finally start working again. Hopefully.
  11. Coverdale has been saying of late he would like to remaster the CP album. As it is 20 years since the album came out, I wonder if that would be a good enough excuse to remaster. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Coverdale took legal action against Geffen around publishing control of the Slidie it In, Whitesnake (1987) album, Slip of the Tongue and the Coverdale Page album. Since he has recently remastered the Slide it In, Whitesnake and Slip albums I would think that he also retains publishing right's to the CP album. DC made reference at one point to the extra tracks from CP (which are anywhere between 4 and 6) that was involved in the suit. So if there was to be a Coverdale Page remastered package one would assume these tracks would be included. And yes, there was deep animosity toward Brian Goode from DC's camp. However, Page and Coverdale have remained friends in the years since ... so I guess from a personal level it worked out.
  12. While most fans of DC consider Slip of the Tongue to be awful (me included) I'm not seeing where DC contradicted himself. Vandenberg was injured and DC got himself a shredder in Steve Vai... interestingly enough David Lee Roth has said similar things about Vai in regards to the Skyscraper album which he said Vai went all "widdley widdley" on him. Which is the truth. Vai is an awesome musician who lacks soul but likes to overdecorate his music. Didn't work for Whitesnake. In fact the record sold 2 million compared to the (now) 14 million worldwide that the previous Whitesnake record sold. As for the Robert and DC thing....It's my personal opinion that Plant went quite over the top with his comments about Coverdale. Robert lost credibility (to me) with his statements when he denied knowing Coverdale, when anyone who did the simplest amount of research would know that they did, in fact, know each other since the 70's. Whether you agree that Robert's criticisms were valid or not, in my mind he lost his way when it went from media poking to downright cruel and vindictive. I blame an extremely lazy American media who didn't bother to remember that Coverdale was in Deep Purple (several media outlets at the time called Whitesnake a "new" band). I'm not sure you have to be a fan of DC to understand that it was over the top.
  13. This interview with Coverdale just came out. In it he talks about his time with Jimmy, his dislike for Jimmy's manager, and his relationship with Plant. The interview is a bit too long to post on here, great stuff though. The interviewer is quite aggressive with DC and get's him to admit things that have never been revealed before about the CP project. http://www.jammagazineonline.com/mf201108-whitesnake.aspx
  14. David also says Jimmy was there in 2003 (Wembly?) He was definitely there in 04 (Hammersmith, Jimmy is even featured in the backstage documentary of the gig) according to Halfin's diary....he has been with Jimmy every time since 04 that WS has come through.
  15. The only scenario DC would sing for Jimmy Page would be on a one or maybe two track basis on an album. I think people assume that Coverdale is pining away to be with Jimmy again and I'd say that is a false assumption. The two guys are friends. I think that's the extent of it.
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