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I love F-Mac, every era. Though if I had to pick a favorite era it would be post Green, pre Buckingham-Nicks era when Danny Kirwan stepped to the front. Bare Trees is a damn good album. In many ways I think Kirwan is under-appreciated by the Peter Green fans, who may not know or be able to tell that much of the hot guitar playing heard during the Green era was really Danny. Danny is all over Then Play On and stuff like Jigsaw Puzzle Blues is every bit as tasty as Albatross. IMO Kirwan may be the best guitarist that most people don't much about. Sad what happened to him.
How's it going "danelectro?" I will be writing a piece here on the FLEETWOOD MAC thread on Danny Kirwan in the next two weeks. This week, I will be writing about JOHN MAYALL & THE BLUESBREAKERS. Danny Kirwan is indeed, a VERY underrated guitarist. I would say that Kirwan, other than Hendrix, are the ONLY guitarists that ever dared to go head to head with Peter Green in his prime. Kirwan may have lost a lot of guitar battles against Green, BUT IT WASN'T BY MUCH! Kirwan evidently learned a lot from Peter Green himself and it showed in his guitar playing. Like yourself, I am deeply saddened that Kirwan is homeless in London and dying from alcoholism. Kirwan had so much talent that he just wasted away. How sad. ROCK ON!
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Thanks for that
You're very welcome "Suz." M-E-O-W!!!!!! ROCK ON!
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Thanks ZFF & Beatbo for the info- I definitely hear the "Albatross" influence in "Sun King"!
You're very welcome "Stargroves Tangie." ROCK ON!
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here's page and the crowes doing "oh, well"
here's fleetwood mac doing it in 1969 on the bbc:
here's "albatross":
"the green manalishi" (not the judas priest version):
on this song, peter green and danny kirwans go head to head. here any chicago blues licks in here?:
that ought to hold everyone for a minute...
hats off, ZFF
edit to add: ZFF-you should turn some folks on to peter's stuff with john mayall if you get a chance....
What's up "beatbo?" I saw Bonham's drum sticks at the Hard Rock Cafe. It felt like I was looking at God's drum sticks. As for your idea of talking about Peter Green's stint with John Mayall, I promise that I will talk about it very soon. I just have to refresh my memory with the information I already have as well as reading the linear notes in the A HARD ROAD album by JOHN MAYALL & THE BLUESBREAKERS that was released in 1967. THIS IS ONE HELL OF AN ALBUM THAT TRULY KICKS ASS! You have to hear it to believe it. I call this album, as a complement, FLEETWOOD MAC in diapers. Thanks to John Mayall, he would not only bring together Peter Green, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood, he would be solely responsible for giving the band their early Blues sound identity. ROCK ON!
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I have a stupid question: What version of FM did that "Oh well" song- can't sing, ain't pretty and my legs are thin. Because that is some cool guitar. Has it already been mentioned here? I read the thread and couldn't tell if it had.
How's it going "Suz?" I remember you! I love the picture of your cat saying "Meow!" Very good question. There is no such thing as a stupid question. "Oh Well" came off the 1970 album entitled THEN PLAY ON. This would be the final album that would feature all of the original members of PETER GREEN'S FLEETWOOD MAC including Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood. JIMMY PAGE & THE BLACK CROWES would perform "Oh Well" live which is included on the 2-CD set live album. It sounds excellent. ROCK ON!
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'albatross' is also a song that was in rotation around the studio whilst the beatles made abbey road. i'll leave it to ZFF to tell you what song it influenced on that album, as he knows his beatles, yes he does...
How's it going "beatbo," my buddy? We BOTH know our BEATLES well huh? FLEETWOOD MAC'S legendary song "Albatross" inspired Lennon to write "Sun King." ROCK ON!
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Whoa ZFF !!
I think I count 10 of the same posts when your internet fucked up.
That's BITCHIN' !!!!
I just highly recommend a Fleetwood Mac fan to check out 'Future Games'. Listen to the spaced-outed-ness of it.
The songs, "Woman of 1,000 Years, Sands of Time, Future Games". It's a trip.
By the way, I had both issues on vinyl. Yellow and Green.
Import:
Domestic:
Oh, and here's the cover for Bare Trees. This won some kind of cover-art award in '72. Minimalist ehh ?
Another great one.
Very good recommendation "EpicForest." These are all great FLEETWOOD MAC albums. ROCK ON!
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Question for ZFF or any other FM fans: somebody once sent me a mp3 file of a FM instrumental called "Albatross". It's definitely pre- Buckingham/Nicks, can anybody tell me more about it, what year, album it's on, and the guitarist on it.
Thanks!
How's it going "Stargroves Tangie?" I can help you out with this one. "Albatross" was one of PETER GREEN'S FLEETWOOD MAC'S first hit songs. It was released as a single as was "Black Magic Woman" from "THE PIOUS BIRD OF GOOD OMEN" album released in 1969. Peter Green was the only guitarist on "Black Magic Woman." Peter Green and Danny Kirwan were the only guitarists minus Jeremy Spencer on the song "Albatross." I hope this helps, ROCK ON!
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Rumors is and always will be one of my Favorite LP's.
How's it going "Hotplant?" The computer system is moving very slow today. RUMORS will always be FLEETWOOD MAC'S signature album. It is also ranked as one of the all-time greatest albums ever. ROCK ON!
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How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" I apologize for the many same comments I sent you. My computer or the website was freaking out on me. How unfortunate! Oh well, as the saying goes, "SHIT HAPPENS!" ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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You Lucky Dog!!! What I would not have done to be a fly on the wall. LOL
Please continue with the information as I am really intrigued. Also, talk about a Peyton Place between members. I am surprised they all are good friends. That says something about their character. ( I better say in my opinion only) I do not want to get roasted over the coals!
How's it going "Bitchin Soul?" Thank you for the kind comment. I promise to e-mail you personally and talk about many personal topics that FLEETWOOD MAC and I have had through the years. I met FLEETWOOD MAC through one of my most dearest friends that I ever knew. His name was Dennis (Denny) Wilson, the late great Drummer for THE BEACH BOYS. Denny was dating Christine McVie on and off when I met the legendary band. I went back stage and spoke with all of them. Hell, I even got cozy with sexy Stevie Nicks. She is an EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL woman outside as well as a beautiful person inside! I also became very friendly with Denny's Girlfriend Christine McVie. She is a very intelligent woman. There is so much to tell with my experiences with this legendary band as well as Dennis Wilson and Brian Wilson that I would not even know where to start. You would NEVER believe what my ears have heard. I'll be talking with you soon. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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Station Man....great riff
ABSOLUTELY "ally!" ROCK ON!
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Hmmm...well, I just remember being very frustrated about not being able to go to the show. I only heard 'Penguin' once or twice so my memory is very faded about that, but yeah, the Bob Welch era is ingrained forever !!
I know this has mainly been a Peter Green thread, but the TITLE does say FLEETWOOD MAC mostly, so
I'd mentioned Danny Kirwan who played with Welch and also played with the Peter Green FM, but we can't forget Jeremy Spencer. ( I see you included that too) HE was with Green in the earliest years and held his own very well. Then came Kirwan, Welch, Weston then Lindsey Buckingham. FM definately had their 'rotating' guitarists for a while.
Nice thread ZFF, you certainly had a personal touch with the band.
What's up "EpicForest?" This is a FLEETWOOD MAC thread from 1967 to the present. We can talk about anything on FLEETWOOD MAC but I just wanted to start from the beginning which is a good place to start. I hope that you will comment more on this thread and talk more about the Bob Welch and Bob Weston years as well as Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan. All of these great guitarists played a vital role by contributing a vital part to this band thus giving this band many different musical personalities as well as identities. I am looking forward to hearing from you more on the great FLEETWOOD MAC. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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I first got into Fleetwood Mac in 1972 with Future Games and Bare Trees. These were post-Green but still really good. They were the beginning of the Bob Welch era. He later became a bit 'softer', like FM did with Buckingham and Nicks, and even with his time with FM Welch added a spacey-mellow edge to their sound. Danny Kirwan gave the band the 'harder' edge at that time, '71-'72.
I drifted from interest with the Buckingham/Nicks era. It wasn't my cup of tea. I went back and discovered the Peter Green era later on and enjoy it muchly, but my favorite was that music I first heard, the above mentioned ones's. I have each the albums Peter Green were on thru the Welch era, the last being Mystery to Me. Bob Weston, on guitar, had a stint with them, I believe it was the 'Penguin' album. I'd lost interest by then, 1973ish.
I still have a FULL ticket of the time in February, 1972 a friend gave it to me. I couldn't get a ride to the concert hall and was too young to drive myself.
On the bill with Fleetwood Mac were John Mayall and Long John Baldry.How's it going "EpicForest?" You do know your FLEETWOOD MAC well especially the Bob Welch and Bob Weston years. I would have liked to talk about these two great guitarists but it would have lengthened my thread even more than it already is. I feel that I should write about them both on this thread later on. I am so sorry to hear that you missed that show. As the saying goes, things do happen for a reason. In the mean time, take care and ROCK ON!
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I am a huge Fleetwood Mac fan, definitely one of my top 10 all time favorite bands! I only started becoming familiar with them when Buckingham/Nicks joined. I don't know much about the Peter Green era. I will certainly have to check that out.
How's it going "Melanie_72?" FLEETWOOD MAC is in deed, one of my Top 10 all-time greatest bands ever. I feel so fortunate to have not only met them all, but to actually acquire a CD copy of the BUCKINGHAM/NICKS solo album from the early 1970's before they joined FLEETWOOD MAC. On this same album, there is a live outtake of a different early version of "Rhiannon" on it, it sounds incredible! You really do have to check out the Peter Green era, you would never believe that FLEETWOOD MAC would actually sound like that. In the mean time, ROCK ON!
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On the bill with Fleetwood Mac were John Mayall and Long John Baldry.
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How's it going "danelectro?" I will be writing a piece here on the FLEETWOOD MAC thread on Danny Kirwan in the next two weeks. This week, I will be writing about JOHN MAYALL & THE BLUESBREAKERS. Danny Kirwan is indeed, a VERY underrated guitarist. I would say that Kirwan, other than Hendrix, are the ONLY guitarists that ever dared to go head to head with Peter Green in his prime. Kirwan may have lost a lot of guitar battles against Green, BUT IT WASN'T BY MUCH! Kirwan evidently learned a lot from Peter Green himself and it showed in his guitar playing. Like yourself, I am deeply saddened that Kirwan is homeless in London and dying from alcoholism. Kirwan had so much talent that he just wasted away. How sad. ROCK ON!