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Jimmy used a non-master volume Marshall 1959SLP Super Lead head. It was modified by Tony Franks (who also did Hendrix's amps). The KT88 tubes would have given it even more headroom than the EL34s, resluting in an even cleaner sound than stock. Thus it's likely there were also preamp tweaks give it a bit more breakup. He used no distortion or overdrive pedals once he switched to the Marshall. He also possibly used the Maestro Echoplex to modify his tone a bit, in addition to using it for echo. The use of G12H 30 watt Celestions also would likely contribute a little more hair.
But mostly, it's Page himself and a cranked Marshall. The biggest obstacle to us mortals getting that sound is the lack of a sports arena to turn it up in.
I recon this is why you need to run the master up high, but I've not used anything like that configuration before so, if it has the same gain stage as running a normal Super Lead's master at (or near) the top that's where you should start.
As for distortion, I'm sure if you run a tube amp at high gain setting's your going to get a fare amount of dirt to the speaker's. How about tube selection's? The KT88 are cleaner? I've been fooling around with a Aphex 107 Mic Pre, and tried a Fender tube that was a bunch hotter/dirtier at higher gain setting's then the Phillips tube that came with the unit. I put the Phillips back in but still have the Fender in case I ever want to use it for micing an electric guitar or a bass even.
Here's a review or two on the G12H's
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews...on/G12H-30/10/1
Found this little tid bit about sensitivity, speaker's and styles of music, if Jimmy's amp was as clean as you stated the higher sensitivity G12H would feel at home with a amp with that much headroom and so little distortion (think I answered my own question about the clean tube's).
http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic.php?fo...amp;topic=33961 (read sergey's reply)
The best studio's have at least one well designed/constructed large room to give the group the opportunity to really open up there gear and to also pound the skins if needed!
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A man was getting a haircut prior to a trip to Rome. He mentioned the trip to the barber who responded,
"Rome? Why would anyone want to go there?
It's crowded & dirty and full of Italians. You're crazy to go to Rome.
So, how are you getting there?"
"We're taking TWA," was the reply. "We got a great rate!"
"TWA?" exclaimed the barber. "That's a terrible airline. Their planes are old, their flight attendants are ugly, and they're always late.
So, where are you staying in Rome?"
"We'll be at the downtown International Marriott."
"That dump! That's the worst hotel in the city. The rooms are small, the service is surly and they're overpriced. So, whatcha doing when you get there?"
"We're going to go to see the Vatican and we hope to see the Pope."
"That's rich," laughed the barber. "You and a million other people trying to see him. He'll look the size of an ant. Boy, good luck on this lousy trip of yours. You're going to need it."
A month later, the man again came in for his regular haircut. The barber asked him about his trip to Rome.
"It was wonderful," explained the man, "not only were we on time in one of TWA's brand new planes, but it was overbooked and they bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful, and I had a beautiful 28 year old stewardess who waited on me hand and foot.
And the hotel-it was great! They'd just finished a $25 million remodeling job and now it's the finest hotel in the city. They, too, were overbooked, so they apologized and gave us the presidential suite at no extra charge!"
"Well," muttered the barber, "I know you didn't get to see the pope."
"Actually, we were quite lucky, for as we toured the Vatican, a Swiss Guard tapped me on the shoulder and explained that the pope likes to personally meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step into his private room and wait the pope would personally greet me. Sure enough, five minutes later the pope walked through the door and shook my hand! I knelt down as he spoke a few words to me."
"Really?" asked the Barber. "What'd he say?"
He said, "Where'd you get the lousy haircut?
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candy-o = the cars
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I just picked up my first Marshall tube amp and remembered this thread. Occasionally someone else asks the same questions so thought it was worth a bump. BTW. My modeling amp has been banished to the box and up for sale.
I can see I'm already going the wrong direction. Gotta turn the gain and bass down to start with. I recall another thread involving the tone/volume controls as well. My question is how did Jimmy dirty it up when needed? Switch channels? Volume/Tone controls? Pedal? All of the above?
I have not used a Marshall head in a long time but, I would think that with what most have stated already and with my past experimentation with the 100 watter I use to borrow from one of my ex guitar player's. You crank the main (Master) as far up as you can and play around with the bass, mid, presence and treble. This is much easier to do in a big room with high ceiling.
A lot of this higher end gear is made on a day to day or even an hour by hour basis, not all of them are going to sound exactly alike.
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My Life = Billy Joel
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I don't see anything wrong with your hair Lilith, your very cute!
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I'm Back On My Feet Again = Michal Bolton and The Baby's
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A man and a little boy entered a barbershop together.
After the man received the full treatment - shave, shampoo, manicure, haircut, etc. - he placed the boy in the chair.
"I'm going' to buy a green tie to wear for the parade," he said. "I'll be back in a few minutes."
When the boy's haircut was completed and the man still hadn't returned, the barber said, "Looks like your daddy's forgotten all about you."
"That wasn't my daddy," said the boy. "He just walked up, took me by the hand and said, 'Come on, son, we're gonna get a free haircut!'"
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Give a Little Bit = Suppertramp
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Home - Econoline Crush
bring it on home = led zeppelin
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"Queen of Hearts," = Juice Newton
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Life in the fast lane
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Who'll Stop The Rain=CCR
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In The Light=Led Zeppelin
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Surfin' Bird=The Trashmen
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Spirit in the Sky=Norman Greenbaum (a true Psy-che-delic song of the 60's)
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Don't you just love the "Upgrade to Pro" thing that everyone want to sell you!
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Little Miss (Can't Be Wrong)=Spin Doctors
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I don't have a TV here at my place but last night I went by mom and dad's place after visiting dad in the hospital (he is recovering nicely) and started watching Classic Album's on VH1. It was about Duran Duran's RIO. Turned out to be sort of boring (I'm not a huge fan of there's) so I turned it to FitTV and watched "Shimmy" before going back home.
I know, I know...It's lame to watch a fitness show and not be working out at the time! I'll get back to my exercise routine tomorrow!
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Just found this one....
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Well, the sun came out and warmed thing's up today! And no rain! Got to love the good old Carolina Weather!
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My Unemployment finely came thru! It only took a month to get it all striated out!
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Voices Carry='Til Tuesday
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This is for real guy's and gal's!
Take two slices of soft oatmeal bread and spread on Nutella (Hazelnut, skim milk & Cocoa past).
Stick in a sliced (longways) banana.
Enjoy as a desert or snack!
Awa...Ua..huh
Elvis Presley
"Rhythm is something you either have or don't have, but when you have it you have it all over".
Song Name Game
in Ramble On
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Geek Stink Breath = Green Day