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Hello All, okay, I just listened to 3 different Queen shows in a row. I’ll gladly post them for all. I want to say that I love Freddy M, I love all of their members. I also need to say that my wife and I watched 3 different shows where he had backing tracks on every song, and there were several times he did not sing at all and it was a backing track. I really hate to even point this out. I was also less than impressed with the guitar and what was produced or lack thereof on stage. We listened to Another One Bites the Dust on 3 different concerts. Man, how I am just learning that they had backing/lead vocals, and that the guitar was also synched. Again, I say this actually being blown away and just tripped out. I’m not knocking them, Freddy was incredible, on these 3 shows he was passable and had not only backing vocals, but straight lead vocals happening. You could barely hear him. I’ll post them, I really feel like an ass for bringing this up, I’m just surprised at the lack of musicianship that was on stage. I am talking Page on his worst night would not have had a backing track playing along with him, and the vocals were as blatant as any lip synced song I have ever seen. I might take a lot of shit for this, I will figure out how to post these shows tomorrow. I was just blown away by the lack of authenticity.
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On 4/14/2023 at 1:06 AM, rm2551 said:
Indeed they were. It just wasn't fair and I imagine this is what stuck in Pete Townshend's craw. He just couldn't get over the fact that they were just so far ahead of everyone else.
Plant couldn't have dished up the early work with his latter voice, but equally, I doubt he could have delivered the great latter tracks with his early voice. Equally great, just totally different.
Spot on! While Plant was a different singer/songwriter after 72, really in my opinion Page was a different producer and guitarist, John Paul was probably the one consistent musician, and John B was just out of this world on every track he ever played on. It is really incredible to think about the 4 of them collectively, and individually. The Townsend reference is so on point. I really think that all of the music/rock world was on the same page as that. Meaning, everyone knew that they couldn’t possibly compete with them. There were amazing bands and amazing musicians during that time, it just happened that the 4 best got together for that 12 year period and ruled the world. It is absolutely sad to me to think what could and would have been without the passing of that amazing man. They were all robbed of moving forward and beyond what they had done. I think and talk about it with my family all the time. To think of those guys after 1980 and moving into a new direction would have been incredible. Godbless them for the years we had. To this day, being 35 plus years into them, I am as devoted and impressed today as I was when I got my first tape/record and certainly by the time I purchased and or knew what a bootleg was. These guys were fucking amazing! Like not other. Just the absolute best that ever graced a stage or studio. It truly isn’t close. And I love a lot of bands. They were just playing in a different league and a different sport then everyone else. God they were bad! Just ferociously good.
Have a great night. Be well. Cheers.
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On 4/11/2023 at 6:08 AM, Ian Smith said:
You couldn't have answered the question better. Wonderful answer my friend. Oh I love those 77 shows too. I love Plant's cracked and often broken voice the best. So raw and powerful. I also love the Knebworth shows. Hell, like you said so well, I appreciate and love all of it as well.
Gotta say that 2 songs that leave me cold, Candy Store Rock and Hots on for Nowhere. Bonham kind of saves them for me.
And I nominate you for coolest Dad ever 😎
That is Rad my friend. I also agree with you selections, and yes JB saves those songs for sure! What an amazing band to have found, and to have obsessed on. There couldn’t be another band that you would do this with. The power and the mystery alone is just incredible.
Thank you for all your awesome posts and thoughts! It is cool to read and explore the nuances of the band through someone.
You have a great weekend my friend. I am going through 1970 right now just to hear the power and glory. I will say, the 77, and 79 tour was amazing! They had reached and developed into another band. That is just the absolute incredible path that these 4 men took along with their amazing manager. I have to say that Plants lyrics are overlooked, by Houses of the Holy he was on another planet. When we get to PG and Presence and then ITTOD that man is an absolute beast lyrically. I would say that he is in his own category all by himself. But really because he was the Black Dog man, and the Whole Lotta Love man, he gets overlooked constantly.
Thanks again, be well, I hope to hear from you soon Sir.
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19 hours ago, Blaize86 said:
It’s impossible to doa good LZ doc. Period. Footage is as sparse as Bigfoot video. Interviews would be almost nil. Concert and backstage footage is almost zero. I’m talking non SRTS and EC footage. . That’s what you get when you shun the media most of your career. LZ are the biggest unknown band in the world….and I love it.
Well said Sir, I am with you, I absolutely love that they were the biggest band in the world, and they were not available. It’s a point of pride, and I try to follow that in my own life in my own little world. Obviously, I am no JPJ, RP, JP, or JB. However, it is something that I have always been proud of. To have been the best selling, the best live band, the best frontman, the best lead guitarist, the absolute best musician in John Paul, and by far the best drummer ever, and to have not made themselves available or to have not bowed to the media or establishment. What an amazing achievement.
Thank you for your post, I could not agree more.
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On 4/8/2023 at 1:21 AM, rm2551 said:
His PG voice was great, a few songs like Wanton Song, Sick Again, he is a bit buried in the mix, but that is a production choice. His voice was SOLID. I reckon you're spot on with his latter voice. It seems he had to learn how to sing again once the damage was done post '72 and he re-invented his singing with new tricks in the bag and new approaches. In '77 his voice got much better. Completely different to his really early voice, but his singing was as good as ever - just different.
It's good to get some latter years Plant appreciation.
I agree with you completely. I truly think that his 75-80 voice was amazing and that he learned to sing. I believe that his 68-72 voice was just done on pure power and strength of his vocal cords. I absolutely think that after 72 he did have to adapt and learn how to project his voice and be within the best trio of all time. That had to be very daunting to say the least. When you have the worlds best guitarist and producer behind/next to you. When you have the worlds best musician in JPJ, and you have the worlds best drummer behind you, that has to be a very stressful and difficult task. I would say that Robert handled and excelled as no other could have. It is absolutely amazing to me that he was able to do what he did. I absolutely think he doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his song writing, and I also think it is easy for us to just simply say his voice after 72 wasn’t as good or didn’t match up to the band. I would argue that. I think he was always on par with what was going on inside of the band as was able to adapt and crush his circumstances. He absolutely had some terrible nights. But they all did. Or specifically everyone except JPJ.
Thank you for your opinion and thoughts. It is cool to read what others think on this and or any subject regarding these Men. They were head and shoulders above everyone in my opinion. It isn’t even close.
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15 hours ago, Ian Smith said:
You are very kind my friend, this made my day.
I consider myself blessed that when I was 13 and heard Misty Mountain Hop my life was forever changed. When Bonham comes in I stood there stunned. I still remember that moment and can get it back everytime just by playing that song.
And yep, they only get better. So many beautiful bootlegs out there as well.
Have a great day and thanks again for your kindness. The world needs more of that.
Few fave Zep tunes of yours?
Hello Sir, man, that is tough. It depends if it is studio or live. And the truth is, there isn’t a song I don’t love/like. When I say I am consumed by this band, I truly mean that. I suppose there are a few songs that are not my favorite. But really I absolutely love all of their songs. I am really into their later years right now. But next month I might be into the early years which is what I was introduced too.
I am really into PG, and Presence and ITTOD right now as far as studio, and for live material, I am obsessed with anything Montreux and anything that is in SF which were my first Bootlegs I purchased. However, their 77 run in NY and LA is mind blowing and I love to throw that on and make my daughter listen to it. Sorry if I have not answered this question. But I am into all of it, no matter the year, and no matter the circumstances that they were under. I appreciate and love all of it.
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I would like to add that Robert’s voice from 68-72 while powerful and amazing, there were also things that he was able to learn and do in later years that he would not have been capable of in his early years/most powerful voice. I will stress that his Physical Graffiti voice may be my personal favorite. The gritty vulnerability that he had was absolutely incredible and stunning. By the time we get to 77 his voice and his capabilities were very impressive. Maybe some won’t agree. That is fine. I would also like to point out that one of his best performances ever was the last song on the last studio album that they did. I’m gonna crawl is absolutely out of this world. Not only for Plant, but Page as well. But Ten Years Gone, In the Light, Trampled, Kashmir, and in my opinion every song off of Presence would not be what it was with the original voice. Again, it is okay to not agree or share that opinion. I would say as much as I love to listen to the shear power of 68-72 Plant, there are songs and performances from 73-80 that I absolutely prefer and appreciate just as much as the early years. For me, it shows the brilliance of Plant as a front man and a singer/performer, and I would rather have Earls Court in my time of dying over in other band and singer ever. As a matter of fact I think too much is made of his declining vocal performance. I could argue that others in the band declined just as much if not more. That’s not important to me. What is important, and what I believe to be true, is Robert in 73-2023 is just in a league of his own. He certainly went through phases that I could do without. But, he also had incredible performances in those years that I personally enjoy as much as any version of his work.
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On 4/6/2023 at 4:38 AM, Dog-of-Doom said:
These are in my opinion the best performances of these songs while also accounting for somewhat decent sound quality. I am well aware there are better versions of some songs here that exist on far less enjoyable bootlegs to my ear. However, I am more than interested to here alternatives - I just thought this is fun to make. I have also included all of the Non-Album/Covers they did that I know of, but I can’t guarantee I got them all. (Not including those that were played within the context of another song)
I should probably say, there are many songs on this list that either Zeppelin just didn’t perform with Bonham (Between ‘69 - ‘80) or were done far better by one of the members in their solo endeavours. So I count things like Page and Plant, Band of Joy and the Sensational Space Shifters in this list as, although not including Jones, they are fantastic performances. They have to be songs done by Led Zeppelin however, so songs by Coverdale/Page, The Firm, any of Robert Plant or Jones’ Solo careers and the Outrider Album are not included.
I would provide links but there are so many here and quite often these videos get taken down for various reasons, but simply googling the band and the date will bring up the gig. There’s often time stamps.
Led Zeppelin
Good Times Bad Times - The version from the “Communication Breakdown” medley in 1970 on the Blueberry Hill bootleg. For the full song, “Celebration Day” from 2007 is also a worthy choice and sends chills down my spine purely as it opens their return to the stage.
Babe I’m Gonna Leave you - Robert Plant at Glastonbury 2014. A brilliant version, and In My Opinion better than the electric ones from ‘69
You Shook Me - January 26th 1969. Great Organ solo.
Dazed and Confused - Sept 29 at Osaka. This could be a whole discussion in and of itself. Every version has the same first 5 minutes, then a different 25 minute follow up. The one I listen to the most is probably the TSRTS version purely for the “San Fransisco” part, but any European ‘73 version is killer. For the best “Woodstock” section, I recommend May 24th at Earls Court.
Your Time is Gonna Come - Jimmy Page and The Black Crowes “Live at The Greek” - Basically the only option but still great.
Black Mountain Side - Take your pick between Royal Albert Hall and The Julie Felix Show. Most of the later ones in my opinion, especially from 1980 are downright sad to listen to. Good for hearing the surprise burst into “Kashmir” however.
Communication Breakdown - Personally, the aforementioned “Blueberry Hill” performance. That Bass solo. The “For What It’s Worth” Jam.
I Can’t Quit You Babe - Royal Albert Hall. The version on CODA is in my opinion far superior to the one which appears on this album and that’s Basically a remix of the RAH recording. Listen to the full version though, not the cut one on CODA.
How Many More Times - Again, Royal Albert Hall. The Paris Theatre version is also a highlight. Some of the ‘73 versions (The final ones) are pretty damn good.
Led Zeppelin II
Whole Lotta Love - Sept 29th ‘71 at Osaka. The sound quality drops for part of it, I think the Good Times Bad Times part of the medley, however when you’re listening to a 30 minute song, 5 or so minutes of that isn’t too bad. GTBT was also in the “Communication Breakdown” Medley. Also an interesting, by no means best version, would be Belgium 1980. This is their last song from their last performance. The band is in nowhere near top form, but towards the end Jones starts ripping it on bass. An interesting and perhaps in some way fitting end for the Zep!!
What is and What Should Never Be - January 9th 1970, Royal Albert Hall.
The Lemon Song/Killing Floor - “Killing Floor” at the Fillmore West ‘69. Great Version.
Thank You - BBC sessions. One of Jimmy’s finest solos. The final night of MSG, curiously not included on TSRTS is also killer as is Monterey 1970. I recommend all of these.
Heartbreaker - Monterey 1970. The version captured on “How The West Was Won” is also killer as is Sept 29th at Osaka.
Living Loving Maid - Page hated this song, so it was never performed sadly.
Ramble On - Robert Plant along with Patty Griffin and Buddy Miller on YouTube. It has countless performances with Page and Plant, but I’ll take the “Celebration Day” Version from 2007 over those.
Moby Dick/Pats Delight - Royal Albert Hall. 20 minutes shorter than the later versions, still packs as much punch.
Bring it on home - 6/25/72 (The final performance)..
Led Zeppelin III
Immigrant Song - How The West Was Won. A powerful performance.
Friends - Osaka. The only one. I prefer this over subsequent Page and Plant or Plant + whatever band came after.
Celebration Day - Sept 4th ‘71. Don’t know much about the song, don’t listen to it too much. TSRTS is good enough for me.
Since I’ve Been Loving You - Whilst Jimmy’s playing in my opinion gets too fast during the version on TSRTS, I’d maybe still say that one. It still captures so much emotion. The one on “BBC Sessions” has an amazing performance from Plant. Orlando ‘71 and “Blueberry Hill” are both great. Any earlier version where page is at his cleanest.
Out On The Tiles - 9/19/70.
Gallows Pole - The version on Page and Plants “No Quarter” Album. It was also covered as part of a medley at the end of Trampled Underfoot” in 1975, namely at Earls Court.
Tangerine - May 25th ‘75 at Earls Court. Basically the only one but great at that.
That’s The Way - Earls Court. Not sure if the “Official” video on YouTube is edited or spliced. I don’t much care, this version is my favourite. The acoustic sets from Earls Court are amazing and I much prefer them to the How The West Was Won versions.
Bron-Y-Aur-Stomp - Earls Court. Again, possibly spliced. There are many ‘77 versions which are amazing and much longer, performed as a medley, however I’ve never felt that acoustic guitars come across well at all in bootlegs. If there is one, please let me know I’d love to hear it. The sound here is amazing with an amazing, soulful solo in the middle. Not much more to ask for.
Led Zeppelin IV
Black Dog - Sept 9 1971. The most Aggressive version. Or one of them. Also Sept 28th at Osaka. The version on the ORIGINAL cut of “The Song Remains The Same” I also hold in extremely high regard. The remasters and the version that exists on Spotify has been butchered completely.
Rock and Roll - March 5th 1971
The Battle of Evermore - Page and Plants “No Quarter” Album. As much as I love JPJ, his vocals on the ‘77 versions render these far inferior to Basically any Page and Plant version. I don’t remember her name, but the backing vocalist taking the place of Sandy Denny on this version is phenomenal.
Stairway to Heaven - Many. June 23rd ‘77 is pretty good. Countless from ‘71 when Plant really believed the lyrics. Overall, MSG ‘73 is about as legendary enough as it needs to be.
Misty Mountain Hop - March 5th ‘71. Literally the only version I know of where Plant sings it at all close to the album. TSRTS is good enough though.
Four Sticks - May 3rd ‘71. This show in Copenhagen I think is the only performance by Bonham. Or one of really not many. There are amazing ones my Michael Lee with Page and Plant, however this is a Bonham song.
Going to California - I am extremely Biased here as I listened to this at the perfect time in my life and it has stuck with me. Almost no version can top it. The version from Earls Court uploaded on the official YouTube channel. God knows what date it was but the video has been floating around for years, presumably from the DVD but idk. Absolutely perfect. Sept 29 ‘71 at Osaka is also phenomenal and much longer.
When The Levee Breaks - Neither of the live versions in ‘75 (There are two) are very good. And whilst Page and Plant did perform it at least once, I have yet to find any performance of the song, live or not, by anyone, that even comes close to that which was cut on the album. So just stick to that would be my advice.
Houses of The Holy
The Song Remains The Same - June 21 ‘77 (The “Bonham Concert”). The Whole of the “Listen To This Eddie” bootleg Bonham is on fire. His earth shattering intro on this is thunderous.
The Rain Song - “The Song Remains The Same” (MSG ‘73). There is also an equally amazing version which was, in a similar fashion to “Thank You” at MSG, performed seemingly at the same gig as some of the Page and Plant “No Quarter” Album, however it is not included. It is Basically an acoustic version of the MSG with an orchestra instead of a Mellotron.
Over The Hills and Far Away - Depends on if you are after Plants best singing or Page. Plant hits the high notes no problem on Basically any ‘72 version, HTWWW will do, however Page has a much more extended solo on the later ‘77 ones with plant singing at a lower pitch. June 27th ‘77 has a good version for Page.
The Crunge - March 3rd ‘75. One of few.
D’yer Mak’er - Was never performed despite rumours of a 1973 performance. Some mistake a reggae-ish jam from May 25th 1975 to be D’yer Mak’er, however it is not this song specifically.
Dancing Days - June 19th 1972. They played it twice during this concert. They just decided to give it another crack at the end. The second one I prefer.
No Quarter - My favourite Zep Track Personally. Similarly to “Dazed and Confused”, this is a whole separate discussion and is highly subjective. Personally, the best version for Jones is March 21st ‘75 in Seattle. Page’s solo is a bit choppy to begin with but he gets there eventually. If you want a shorter, more atmospheric version, I’d stick with the one on the ORIGINAL cut of “The Song Remains The Same”. Again, it has been cut up needlessly on recent releases. For a longer version, June 21st 1977 (Listen to This Eddie) is the one. Many of the ‘77 versions are amazing. Be wary though, on this tour they added a blues jam which was quite often a train wreck. The version caught on the warm up Gig in Copenhagen, 1979 for Knebworth is also good and far better than either of the Knebworth Shows.
The Ocean - Madison Square Garden in ‘73 is about as good as any other I’ve heard.
Physical Graffiti
Custard Pie - Jimmy Page and The Black Crowes “Live at The Greek”. Again, not much choice. This is better in my opinion than the Page and Plant versions.
The Rover - There is a sound check for an unknown 1973 show where they played this song. Although not fully developed, it is the only complete version the band played. They played the opening in ‘77 only as an intro to “Sick Again”. The video has been uploaded by “Led Zeppelin Rarities”.
In My Time of Dying - June 22nd ‘77. The day after “Listen to This Eddie”, this version is almost 15 minutes and includes a lengthy improvisation section which covers “The Lemon Song”. One nitpick I do have however is that Jones switched to an Alembic Bass, which I feel never reached the tone his Fender Jazz Bass got to. For that, any ‘75 North American show will do just fine. This is fire however.
Houses of the Holy - Robert Plant and Band of Joy. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAlknGLym7M&pp=ygUeQmFuZCBvZiBqb3kgaG91c2VzIG9yIGdoZSBob2x5. I think this is around 2010, not sure. The song was never performed by the band and barely after they broke up. Regardless, this is a good listen.
Trampled Under Foot - June 30th 1980. Probably the most consistent song of the 1980 “Tour over Europe”, if that says anything. This and many ‘75 versions.
Kashmir - Honestly, I’m voting “Celebration Day” 2007. The Aging of Plants voice really lends itself to this song. I feel this is much better than any they performed pre-1980. And such a grand ending. The orchestral version from Page and Plant is also phenomenal, however I prefer the original arrangement.
In The Light - Literally the only Option is a bonus track on the Japanese release of “Live at The Greek”. Plant allegedly was extremely enthusiastic about playing this live, however Jones simply could not reproduce the sound on stage. A very underrated song. As a side note, Mike Kerr, singer of Royal Blood, lists Zeppelin as a heavy influence. I can hear his singing style most clearly and directly in this song.
Bron-Yr-Aur - Sept 9th ‘70. If you must have a live version. The studio release is far more atmospheric due to quality and effects - this is Basically the only option we have. He does add an interesting harmonic section, very briefly, but other than that I’d stick with the album cut.
Down By the Seaside - It was often performed as part of a medley within “Calling To You” by Page and Plant, however in its entirety it was never performed, neither by the band or any of its members to my knowledge.
Ten Years Gone - August 4th ‘79 at Knebworth. The aforementioned Copenhagen warmup show is also phenomenal for this song. They are tied.
Night Flight - Again, this was never performed live by the band or any of its members.
The Wanton Song - January 12th ‘75. I personally prefer the Page and Plant versions where they blast the Immigrant Song intro then 10 seconds in just switch smooth as hell into The Wanton Song. Sick.
Boogie With Stu - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members. “Stu” is Ian Stewart of The Rolling Stones for anyone who doesn’t know. They were using the Stones’ recording equipment at Headley Grange.
Black Country Woman - June 19th 1972
Sick Again - June 21st ‘77 (Listen to This Eddie)
Presence
Achilles Last Stand - Knebworth ‘79. I’m not sure which of the two nights is featured on the filmed and presumably edited video on YouTube, I think taken from the Led Zeppelin DVD, but that version is powerful as hell and I’ll take it.
For Your Life - To my knowledge, the only option for this is “Celebration Day” 2007. Other than the opening riff, this is not my favourite song.
Royal Orleans - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members, thank God.
Nobody’s Fault but Mine - Knebworth ‘79.
Candy Store Rock - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members.
Hots on For Nowhere - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members.
Tea For One - February 13th 1996. Whilst never performed live by the band as a whole, Page and Plant performed it in the 90s and this version from Tokyo in ‘96 is killer. Joe Bonamassa has also done great covers of it.
In Through The Out Door
In The Evening - Knebworth ‘79. Page and Plant’s performance in Detroit, ‘95 also has a great version.
South Bound Suarez - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members.
Fool in The Rain - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members.
Hot Dog - July 24th ‘79. I actually can’t believe they did this live but there you go - Copenhagen ‘79.
Carouselambra - Pretty certain it was performed briefly within “In The Evening” by Page and Plant on occasion, however never in its entirety or with synths. I think this song is vastly underrated and I’m not even a fan of “In Through The Out Door”. I do sometimes prefer “The Epic (Rough Mix)” from the deluxe edition of the album as the vocals and guitars are more pronounced. It was probably going to be on the set lists for the 1980 American Tour apparently, but we all know what happened there…
All My Love - June 30th ‘80.
I’m Gonna Crawl - This was never performed live by the band or any of its members. Another underrated song. Pages best solo on the album. Plant give an emotional performance, a highlight since Houses of the Holy In My Opinion. Since I’ve Been Loving You and Tea For One are both in C Minor, and so were performed together in ‘77 to my memory. It’s possible this would have replaced that lengthy jam in future tours as I think it’s a decent enough song, though not as good, as they were veering away from longer jams. The ‘80 tour did not feature lengthy Dazed and Confused and No Quarter renditions and they may have wanted to include more tracks from the new album.
Coda
Hey, Hey What Can I Do - There are multiple Page and Plant versions of this but I much prefer the Album cut over any performance I’ve heard.
We’re Gonna Groove - Royal Albert Hall. Legendary.
Bonzo’s Montreux - I believe he played it in ‘77 versions of Moby Dick - and as much as I love Bonham and his solos, I do not think listening to half an hour of Moby Dick is worth it so I honestly couldn’t tell you which one is better.
Wearing and Tearing - Knebworth ‘90. Page and Plant performed it at the reunion at Knebworth in 1990. It is to my knowledge the only option.
Non-Album/Covers
Train Kept a Rollin - January 26th ‘69. Some 1980 versions aren’t bad too.
As Long as I Have You - April 27th 1969
C’mon Everybody - Royal Albert Hall
Long Tall Sally - June 28th 1970
Louie Louie - June 25th 1972 (Same concert as “How The West Was Won”, however cut) “Burn Like a Candle” Bootleg.
Weekend - August 21st 1971
Money (That’s What I Want) - June 30th 1980
Blueberry Hill - At Blueberry Hill
It’ll Be Me - May 22nd 1977. They only did it twice. This is much better quality than the other one and even features Mick Ralphs himself.
I Gotta Move - March 16 1969. Soundboard in Excellent Quality.
Mystery Train - June 19th 1977. An Elvis Cover.
Please Please Me - Sept 28th 1971
From Me to You - Sept 28th 1971
Georgia (On My Mind) - Unknown Date but was improvised once in 1973 when Jimmy had a Guitar Restrung after a string snapped.
Happy Birthday - May 31st 1973
High Heeled Sneakers - Sept 28th 1971
I Can’t Be Satisfied - Sometime in ‘77
Sittin and Thinkin - April 27th 1969 at the Fillmore.
Stand By Me - October 9th 1972
The Girl Can’t Help it - September 19th 1970
Twenty Flight Rock - September 19th 1970 (Second Show)
Walk Don’t Run - August 22 1971
We Shall Overcome - September 28th 1971
When You’re Smiling (The Whole World Smiles With You) - June 19th 1972
Apologies for any mistakes or typos, I’ve been awake for about 30 odd hours at this point.
Awesome! I really don’t have a problem with any of these choices. As a life long fan, as a person who purchased 100’s of Bootlegs and was lucky enough to see Page and Plant, Plant solo several times I am pumped to be able to go back over this list and check out your favorite versions and be able to create my own list. I will say, I appreciate your opinion and choice of songs and their versions,
Thanks for the list. Great job, have a great weekend.
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On 3/28/2023 at 7:03 AM, Ian Smith said:
Damn, wonderful listen! Love the part at 4:07 and to hear all the acoustic guitars so clearly.
This makes me glad to be alive. I am 57 years old and been listening to Zep since I was 13 and they can still give me goosebumps.
Thanks for the post my friend.
Man, that is amazing to read, and amazing to hear/know. I’m 46ish and started diving into them at about 12. Certainly as I grew up and was able to learn more about them my appreciation/obsession grew. But to read what you posted, or what Mr. Strider has posted has just been an inspiration. I was able to have my Mother and Father tell me stories of seeing them in 69-70 and 71. But, while they were absolutely fans, they were not as consumed as I was. I bring that up because to hear someone that is a decade older than myself, someone who has been dedicated and devoted. It is awesome to read your perspective of their maturations and changes.
Have a great night, it’s pretty incredible that we have the amount of people that are devoted and invested in this group of men.
Thanks again.
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15 hours ago, hummingbird69 said:
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
I’m not embarrassed at all. I know that you are for sure. Spouting your rude stupid thoughts on Covid and or any other topic. Mr. I give everyone Hummers. You are a child, a brainless child. I do know that you wouldn’t ever get tough with anyone, you wouldn’t challenge anyone. It’s easy to talk your stupid thoughts on this Forum and or Thread or other threads. But aside from a few people, we all know you are just the scumbag who says some provocative stuff. You don’t even know what it means. I’ll gladly pay for your plane ticket to my area, meat you for a beer, and then let you know what an absolute cry 😢 baby you are. Literally, I’ll pay for your plane ticket, come and see me, talk your talk, and see how that ends up. I promise I’ll be really nice to you Sir. Pay for you to fly to the Bay Area, and then fly home. I would love to meet you and see your attitude change. But absolutely I will promise you that I will pay for you to come visit and have a good time with me, and then pay for your ride home. I think we can become friends after this. If you don’t I appreciate that and apologize. But 100% I’ll pay for you to come out to Santa Cruz, and then I’ll pay for you to fly to whatever fly over state you live in. I really mean that in the kindest way possible. After this post, I will forever forward be a nice gentlemen to you.
Mr. I have given everyone hummers, please forgive me for my ignorance, actions, and posts. I apologize. But also please reach out to me as I would love to have you as a guest. If not, I’m sorry for embarrassing you and showing you everyone what a simple child you are. Again, I could be wrong? If I am, I’ll be the first to tell you in person that I am sorry Hummer.
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22 hours ago, SteveAJones said:
Enough foreplay, just ask him out already.
As you once told me, I’ll ride him like a motorcycle! However, I would get a room with this little simpleton. My hair in a ponytail whipping him is his stupid face. I would love it. The funny thing is, he hasn’t had any experience, he is just a rude jackass. As my favorite comedian said. “He doesn’t know dick about cock”!
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On 3/21/2023 at 3:23 AM, SteveAJones said:
Oh, we're good and yeah, I'm just doing my show. Hoodie Girl chose not to give me anything to work with, and that's her prerogative, but I was nothing but nice towards her.
Goddamn, you are a wordsmith. Just that reply made me laugh out loud. Yeah man, keep the show up. I absolutely 👍 dig your topics and thoughts. Thanks for being real. There are several of you on this forum that are honest, and also like to keep it pushing. I appreciate it. Have a great night/weekend Steve.
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On 3/21/2023 at 11:59 AM, redrum said:
I have a nephew living there, but doubt I could ever go back. Seeing a doctor on Thursday. Hope he can do something as it's been constant pain for a long time. I'll let you know.
Yes Sir. I hope you get it figured out and can get some relief and comfort Red. Getting old can suck for sure. Hope you and yours are well. I also hope to hear more of your art. I dig it brother! Be well.
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3 hours ago, custard pie man said:
not depress but alarms the hell out of me, I guess grateful for living in the country, awesome about your wife, believe last few years the biggest percentage gain in hand gun permits and ownership is the ladies which is why I remember to get flowers and not be a dick 😅
Hahahahha! Yes Sir! Always be good to your significant other. We are taking a gun safety class together this weekend. What’s funny about this is, a couple of months ago she would have argued this and told me that she wasn’t interested. I just want to make sure she and my daughter are good without me, and capable of handling themselves and should have knowledge of how weapons work and why we have them. Super proud of her.
Have a great night Sir. Let me know if you watch the Last of Us. That show is amazing.
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On 3/21/2023 at 4:32 AM, hummingbird69 said:
Read your own posts and then follow you own advice. you sanctimonious clod.
Hummer, look at all of your shit political posts! You spout your dumb opinions. You and a few others. You throw it out there and then sit back. You are a troll. What I’m saying to you is that not everyone agrees with you! As not everyone would agree with me. The difference is, you are the one who posts your scumbag dipshit thoughts. I absolutely know my opinion and or thoughts are not correct. You on the other hand can’t admit to being wrong because you are as I said a spineless wimp. If you had any courage you would say “ look this is my opinion and I could be wrong because I don’t know how everyone feels”. Those are your shit thoughts that you like to troll this and a couple other threads. I am here to tell you to stay in your lane, know that you are a fucking idiot like we all are.
You can have your little dinner parties, with your little circle that all have the same ideas and thoughts. That means you are a stunted mental midget who can’t see anything except your idiotic side. Really man, stop trying to keep up. You are getting your ass whipped on every response and or post. Just keep it to your favorite team, beer, song, band, concert, and stuff like that. Also, pay attention to what other people have experienced. My parents were at the most legendary concerts ever, with guys like Red, and Strider. At the Forum, at the Warfield, and the Filmore West, Day on the Green. I hope you were also. You should actually start asking people about their experiences rather than posting your awful pro trump and or shitbag conservative thoughts. And I was raised by Republicans, religious conservatives. I’m good with all their values and ideas. You on the other hand are a person who lacks empathy, a know it all know nothing dumb fuck. Look, be real for once in your life on this forum and say, “ I’m sorry, these are just my stupid thoughts and ideas”! Or don’t, keep talking you stupid shit, and I’ll continue to beat you like a drum! Like John Bonham playing Moby Dick!
You are a frustrating hack! If you are truly conservative, and have empathy, and have compassion then you would post more thoughts and ideas about it. All you post is your absolute jackass ideas about the people who don’t agree and think like you do. Seriously, take a moment and think about that. Or don’t, and post some other stupid thoughts behind me and I’ll continue to show you what an arrogant asshole you are. Or, don’t ever post behind me again! I can freely admit that I am just a person trying to figure out life and be good to others. Ask yourself who are you? On this forum you are an opinionated asshole. Say something else. Really you should never say anything about anything.
Right on Troll. “ keep on keeping on”!
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1 hour ago, hummingbird69 said:
It's just like this!
Why did Michael Cohen go to prison? Do he go because he wanted too. I am not saying that he didn’t act on his own or decide to do things in his best/worst interest. It is really easy to read and or know what he went to prison for. It wasn’t just because he was a scumbag like you. He was acting at the behest of someone. It’s amazing to me that he went and served prison time, and yet the person he went to prison for and because of gets a free pass. Just shows what an absolute tool and cult follower you are. I don’t think he should have went to prison for what he did, I also don’t think Trump should go to prison for fucking a porn star and paying hush money for it. But to deny that he went to prison for that exact reason is idiotic. Which you are. Just stop posting politics in general. You are brain dead and do not know anything about anything. Seriously, stick to music, or what show you like, or what beer you want to drink. Other than that you are just plain ignorant! Shut up already. You are like a kid whistling in the dark. Get a clue.
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On 3/17/2023 at 4:20 AM, hummingbird69 said:
Look dope, I will not read any more of your rude ass stupid screeds. Keep on keepin on with your bad self.
Tah! tool.
Finally, no actual response, nothing but hot air. By the way, you are by far the most rude inconsiderate asshole on this thread. I have no idea what the hell you meant by Tah! tool. Nor did anyone else. So shut the fuck up and pay attention to yourself. As I said, don’t post after me again. You are w spineless wimp! A shit bag that trashed others and spews your nonsense and expects no one else to challenge you. Except you are a dumb old man who is locked in your little bubble. You know nothing about anything except what you read on your headline that you follow. You don’t have an original thought in your Zika virus head. So you keep on keeping on. Wear your helmet, and make sure to wear your mouth piece! I don’t want you to get hurt.
Keep on Keeping on with your dumb self.
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On 3/12/2023 at 11:28 PM, slave to zep said:
Each to their own, but it's a NO from me.
I can appreciate that. I would suggest watching some of her live in concert, or live in studio singing. If you don’t have the time. I understand. But that also means you don’t get to judge and or pass judgment on her. Unless you have actually checked into her live performances, you can’t really form an opinion. However, if you simply don’t like her, then that would be different. But that means you can’t have an opinion and or argument against her. That would mean you don’t have time and or the want to give her a chance which is fine. I have plenty of talented people I don’t care to listen to.
Be well Slave. I hope you and yours are safe and prosperous.
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On 3/17/2023 at 8:39 PM, cryingbluerain said:
???
The 2008 bank bailouts happened under Bush not Obama.Yes, part of the reason for the current bank failures is because of terrible "woke" bank management. But also because the Fed started raising interest rates to fight the Biden induced inflation too late and too quickly. If they had begun raising them gradually in 2021 at the first signs of inflation that would have more than likely helped contain the bank problems. They said it was "transitory", what a friggin' joke. Also the Fed and bank regulators were asleep at the wheel and seemed more busy with ESG woke issues than properly monitoring what was going on with the financial institutions. And all this was happening under the clown Biden administration's watch.
Now if you'll excuse me I must be on my way.Well Sir, I will politely disagree with you. Having my wife in the industry, we certainly agree that it originated under Bush. But it actually started under Clinton. However, Trump made several decisions and choices that are directly connected to what we are dealing with. I will post the facts and findings. I just have a feeling you won’t want to hear and or read them. It is as if everyone forgot who Covid started under and or during their admin. It is as if we all forgot what Trump declared and the choices he did and didn’t make. We can blame Biden. I’m okay with that. History will just prove that to be a false narrative. I will wait until the dust settles and we can then start posting actual facts from each administration. I’m not saying that I think Biden is crushing it. But I will wait to post the actual facts of the timeline.
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On 3/17/2023 at 12:09 PM, redrum said:
My hometown. Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.
I was at job sites all day in the city. Man, that place is not doing well. To say the least. Hope your pinched nerve is better and I hope to hear some new music and creations from you soon.
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On 3/14/2023 at 1:13 AM, SteveAJones said:
Do scroll up and you will see I was nothing but nice towards the original poster.
If I have offended you or anything of the sort that was not my intent. You are absolutely the first person I started following on this forum, as well as the original. I have said many times that your knowledge of the band and persons in the band are absolutely amazing. I was simply making a statement. Certainly not meaning to say anything other than that. If I did, I apologize. Your thoughts on all of the Zeppelin topics, as well as others are always appreciated by me. Even if I do not agree with your opinions. I can certainly appreciate your interest in said topics and your intellect.
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On 3/11/2023 at 4:11 AM, woz70 said:
Aw shucks *embarrassed face*. Thank you.
Have great weekend yourself.Seriously, thank you for all the insight into how recordings and the process works. I have several musicians in my family. None of them explain it the way you do.
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On 3/15/2023 at 6:47 AM, custard pie man said:
watch it too, Tulsa seems to be on there quite a bit along with Atlanta, Cold Justice on Oxygen is another good one
Does that show depress you at all? I’m also really into Port Protection. What a great show that is. Tried getting into “ The Last of Us “ that show gave me a bunch of anxiety. I have several weapons/guns in the house. My wife who is a bleeding heart liberal watched the first season and told me she wants to start hunting with me, wants to take a gun safety course, and also get her concealed license permit. Made me smile. I’m working on her. The problem is, her mother is an Organic Chemist PHD graduate from Stanford. Graduated first in her class, she is actually one of 5 people who created Aleve. Nancy Krauss who is my Mother In Law, she is now the head Surgeon for some hospital and runs a bunch of drug rehabilitation centers in my area. My reason for mentioning this is she was obviously influenced by her, myself being from a family of gun owners and hunters, I have explained that if shit hits the fan, I appreciate that her mom can stitch me up, and maybe tell me what meds to take. But we need to be prepared beyond the degrees from her and her mother.
If you get a chance watch Port Protection. Great show.
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13 hours ago, hummingbird69 said:
And this shit you posted is exactly why you need to look in that mirror.
Listen hear you bag of hammers. You are a follower, you have no original thoughts, you couldn’t begin to try and spar with me. You really need to stick to your shit posts from the dumb headlines you received off of OAN News or Faux or better yet your favorite source RT News. For the last time, every stupid political post you have, or every shit thought that you put up on the Random or Covid thread is not yours. You remind me of BOBO on the Howard Stern Show. None of your posts are authentic, or thought out for that matter. You throw some shit at the wall and get Crying Blue Balls to back you because you are two low IQ men who haven’t been challenged on this forum. Certainly in life you specifically wouldn’t say anything that you say on this forum because you would get schooled and or slapped. I’ll keep telling you that if you post after me and try and get cute I’ll have to throttle you. So to sum it up, you have no original thoughts. You constantly post shit headlines and change a few words to make it seem like your own ideas. For the last time Hummer who gives 69. Grow up. If you want to keep doing this, I am all for it. I will also say, if you want to be kind, and you don’t want to get your daily tongue lashings then just stop posting your semi retarded Corky Thatcher posts. I know, life goes on. I don’t care that you rode the short bus and had to wear a helmet in school. I absolutely feel for you that you got ridiculed and were bullied every day. That is why I’m saying just change your attitude and be respectful. You could also not respond to me anymore. But if I see you post your Maggot posts I’m going to call you out for the idiot you are.
Have a good night 69. I hope you can see your way out of your stupid political posts that only you and a few other people appreciate or even agree with.
Radio Stations that Still Get the Led Out!
in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
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Hello All, Mr. Chef Free may have mentioned this already, but our local SF station here in Northern Ca 107.7 the Bone still gets the Lead out. There was a 20 year period where they had some very good DJ’s that would actually play a couple of hours of Zeppelin every night. They would do it at 7:00pm and they started getting into Bootlegs. I would on occasion get a little upset as they would play shit bootlegs with shit sound from a shit show and I personally would get upset being as big of a Zeppelin fan as there could be, because I felt is was not representative of who they are and were.
This is off topic, but I have been listening to early Bootlegs and albums, the Lemon Song, and Sitting and Thinking are just truly out of this world. If we want to hear this band at their height, all members getting into it, playing unbelievably complex, brilliant music. Throw on the Lemon Song. It is truly a masterpiece. I don’t care if Robert borrowed every blues lyrics that exist, Jimmy obviously was inspired by several blues standards, JPJ is out of his mind on that song, and JB is just in another class altogether. But that song is just as raw, as classic, and to me it is an example of what the best band in the world sounds like. I understand that it may not be their best song, I would argue that it is just a pure exercise of musicianship. All 4 of them are just beyond words or explanation.
Cheers all. Have a great night.