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percy the gardner

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  1. Great! i was just thinking the same, which is good, as it seems I had not been on this forum for five years! time sure flies, it was almost 28 years ago since I saw JP on stage! Keep on rockin'
  2. Well, I suppose this must depend upon one's personal sense of humor. One of my favourites (unintentional ones) is the one from Dallas 1973 where he manages to include some extra lyrics into Celebration Day: "Get me some monitors, Rusty!" Dah-dah-daaa, dah-dah-dahwn! Cheers!
  3. Or why they took out the dedication to LA off from the beginning of WLL (that people from elsewhere would get jealous?) and edited the whole medley leaving out great stuff like "Slow Down". Beats me but I am glad we can get both. Well, I wouldn't mind having the audio quality of HTWWW AND the original content, eh? Cheers!
  4. I don't think I have *ever* parted with a LZ bootleg, or any other LZ record, CD, poster, programme or any other LZ item I have bought. E-bay is nice in that way, that being patient I was glad I could get a few things I only had seen pictures before: like the Knebworth proramme, I bought two, a very nice one which has been sealed in plastic on my bookshelf and another slightly work one for browsing, and a "Tour over Europe '80" bagde. I always liked the ldea of that guard who's looking for a Zeppelin in the sky! They came and dropped their stuff, take that! But although I think I have more than a hundred LZ vinyl boots and a few dozen CD boots (some vinyls are 10 discs, many at least 2-4) I'm not even thinking of parting with any of those. There are too many memories related to all of them. They were almost as mythic as the band itself in the '80's, we couldn't buy anything here where I live. Me or one of my friends had to travel to Stockholm, London or Amsterdam to be able to buy any, and they cost a fortune. And on many (like the copy of Blueberry Hill we bought the first time) the sound was so bad I had to buy an equalizer to be able to listen to it, and get a semispherical needle for the record player, as the elliptical one was scratching the bottom of the groove and sounding even worse... Some of those were also worn and dirty, so an ultrasonic cleaning bath was necessary, but yes, the experience in the end was worth every penny! But a lot of the older, rarer stuff seems to be fetching sums I would not be willing to spend now. I'm glad of CD's and FLAC's in that sense that it makes things so mush easier to distribute. A tenth generation C-tape copy of a great recording has already so much hiss and other problems that even a great show becomes hard to listen to. Cheers!
  5. Sorry, nothing personal, but metaphors don't always work cross-continents. On this side of the Atlantic, people put 95 octane into Pintos and even older cars, and that's normal because that's the lowest octane you can buy in here. There used to be 92 which I put in my bike when I had one, but that was more than ten years ago...I have my flame suit on now! Cheers!
  6. Yes, but I think the comment made earlier was referring to the OFFICIAL releases of HTWWW and TSRTS which was not mastered very well for CD the first time it was done, which unfortunately was also true for other official studio releases. I think the point there was about what LZ sounded like on vinyl vs. the current CD's, which are better than the earlier CD's but don't always sound better than the old vinyls. Part of the problem is also that poor audio compresses even more purely than good or great audio. This is the same with any digital files, pictures, video etc. The more you have noise and artifacts, the poorer the compression methods work. If you turn an audience recording with a lot of tape noise into an MP3 you'll not only kill a lot of the sound that was still left there, but you'll also create all kinds of new irritating problems with it, especially for folks that use headphones. I prefer to listen to crappy old boots with the home theatre setup and proper volume, but my wife and kids do not always appreciate it! :-o Do we need LZ in our living room? Yes! This should have been a poll, yes and I hate these sort of "which is better" questions, you know what opinions are like. But if I'd have to vote my vote would go for HTWWW. But don't get me wrong, I love TSRTS and I love listening to any audience recording of LZ. Too bad I never saw them live, but then they played in Scandinavia already before I was born. But I am really thankful that they are releasing the official material, anything they let out, I'll go and buy and enjoy! (I even bought a full HD TV for TSRTS and need to get it on BlueRay or HD-DVD soon!!!) The only thing I don't like about HTWWW is the cutting of pieces here and there. Sure it's their right to do so, and I know that artists have a bad habbit of always hearing/seeing their own mistakes, which are sometimes miniscule, but for them probably very disturbing. I quite often have to pick the Heartbrake Hotel boot, just to get in the right mood for WLL and to hear (IMHO) a great version of Slow Down, that for some reason was edited out. (Just before "I didn't say I was a millionere...") Okay, they do sound lost for a while in the end of it (they probably REALLY didn't know what they should play right then) But that and other small mistakes and naive comments were what they were, right then and there, and my got, the best rock'n'roll I ever have heard, so it sure would be great if shows like Long Beach and LA 1972 would come out as they were, unedited. Mixed yes, but please unedited... Sorry, that's just the way I feel. I think they did great job, but still lost some moments in there. Like the way Plant says "Good ee-vening!" and the dedicates WLL to- LA, also IMO the way it really started there (at LA) sounds so much better with a bit of feedback and Jimmy and Bonzo stretching out a bit before they hit it! You get the anticipation which is missing from the official release! Cheers! PS. Wasn't "Bouree" also edited out of the BBC and other versions of Hearbreaker? Why? Surely not a copyright/publishing issue! ;-)
  7. Yes, this is a well known point of time for them in their home country. They became big first in the US, but this is the starting of that "bigger than the Beatles" period in the UK. LZ II was number one all over the continent and London was the rock capital on this side of the Atlantic. Here's my fav. clip from that period: "The lead what?" I think Jeff Beck can even be seen backstage at RAH and reportedly people like EC, John Lennon and such were there to see the show. And it was Jimmy's birthday. So it's not a big surprise the show was good. But it's great that the cameras weren't too much in their way. The sad thing (if I remember correctly, I talked about this a couple years ago with the director of the DVD, Dick Carruthers) was that it was not released due to all kinds of technical problems, and much later a bootleg copy was circulating, but the sound was out of sync and the picture was not that good (but in those days any moving picture of LZ was a treasure!) This was only shot with two 16mm color film cameras, one of them had a shutter problem and wasn't running right, both of them were slowing down due to batteries and the technology of that time, so the film would run faster on a projector towards the end, big gaps in the songs when neither of the two cameras were shooting anything, etc. Dick and his team did a LOT of work that so we all can enjoy this show now at our homes. BUT to this day, it's the best document of the band in action, IMO. (picture quality vs. performance vs. sound quality) And I'm one of those masochists who can listen to the tapes from Spokane 1968 and Bath 1970. I remember the first tape I heard from Knebworth, it sounded like it was recorded with a small dictation recorder on minitape a mile from the stage! I love that and Earl's Court as well, but RAH is a very special one. Cheers, Percy
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