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...in this case entire band is present in New York off day July 31st...show on August 1, Santa Barbara,
Here, since Miss P is engaged in very close relationship...she has noted all of the sequence of events in her togetherness with Page...original point...no mention of Vegas Date on Aug. 11/12, just Elvis...
It doesn't make sense to be in NYC on 7/31. They'd have flown in from Salt Lake City that morning but we're fairly certain they were back in LA
that night. Fly from the West Coast to NY and back for a gold album presention? I don't think so.
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Well Steve, there's the rub, I guess.
I relied on The Concert File for this - usually correct. It did seem like a somewhat strange location, but then again, even more strange if they made a mistake about it, right? Anyway, I went and checked The Press Reports, but these aren't really conclusive either. Probably the date is correct - e.g. July 31 - but there was indeed a report in NME on August 2 that it happened in New York. I don't know what Lewis and Pallett were relying on. In the other press announcements there is no info about where it took place, or indeed when. Here's a couple of photos from the occasion.If this took place in NYC, then it will have been around the same time as when Jimmy flew in from Salt Lake City according to Ritchie Yorke, who is unlikely to remember that wrongly, seeing as he was writing liner notes in NYC, and got to listen to four songs in the studio and was given an acetate copy of them!
It could have been 7/21/69 as they played Central Park on that date, or during their few days off afterward.
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They were in Eugene, Oregon on July 31, receiving gold discs.
I have a note which says the same but I've doubted the accuracy of it as I thought someone else told me they were presented in New York.
How sure are we about them having been presented in Eugene, OR 7/31/69?
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I have the poster for Audimax in Hamburg ("The New Band for 1984" with their names)
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KFMB Channel 8 San Diego
Led Zeppelin Ticket Sales News Report
January 31, 1977
This vintage video link courtesy of Terry Stephenson:
http://www.cbs8.com/global/category.asp ... start=true
Note: Concert announced 1/25/77. Tickets on sale 1/31/77. Concert originally scheduled for 3/8/77.
Postponed 2/24/77 (Robert Plant tonsilitis). Concert held at San Diego Sports Arena 6/19/77.
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Hi to everyone!, first post here, i found something interesting if you go to this web site /www.thestudiotour.com/bray/music.shtml and the click on "ref" on the line Led-Zeppelin july 79 it will direct you to page 56 of the tight but loose files, celebration 2, pre Knebworth: the Bray rehearsals, it's
said that there is some footage of the rehearsals and a scene which Bonzo demonstrated the art of folding a t-shirt. wonder if someone have seen that ! thanks
The author of that book, Dave Lewis, had an opportunity to see unreleased Led Zeppelin footage many years ago - things like pro-shot Earls Court and Knebworth - at the Swan Song office in the Kings Road as I recall. I
don't think it was the clip of John Bonham in studio which was available on this site before it become official.
I have about 50 photos from their European tour rehearsals at the New Victoria Theatre in May 1980. I might
have posted some of them to the Photo Forum in the past.
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...SAJ, This is my understanding.....Yardbirds With Jimmy Page Tour Dates
http://itinerary.led...irds/index.html
May 25, 1968 - Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA
May 31, 1968 - Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA
June 1, 1968 - Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA
June 5, 1968 - Montgomery, Alabama (end of tour)
July 7, 1968 - Luton Technical College, Beds. (Final performance by the band. They then split up.)
..Catherine James was with Page from the days of Yardbirds..(confusion arose, probably, as she was with Jimmy in Yardbirds + Zep)
Yes, you are correct about the Shrine Auditorium dates; I see I had typed "Led Zeppelin" when I meant "Jimmy Page".
The Yardbirds in Luton 7/7/68 has appeared on lists/in books time and again but I have seen no evidence to support it.
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how come no one can ask page, plant or jones directly? or see official band records?
Unfortunately, official band records can be inconclusive, incomplete or non-existent.
Mike Tell allegedly promoted this concert and he did everything by the seat of his
pants. If it really happened it was hastily arranged. No press or promo materials are
known to exist.
As far as the band members themselves, they do of course recall meeting Elvis but I am
to understand none of them recall this gig.
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not sure but perhaps, The "Salt Lake City" connection quite possibly is a reference to Elvis/Vegas travel later that P.M...due to time constraints, it is not know if they/all parties connected right at Airport, or not...
The reference to Salt Lake City may have been misunderstood along the way, but it
may not. I think Ritchie originally wrote in his book something along the lines of "Jimmy arrived in NY from Salt Lake City". If that is what he wrote and it is taken literally it
means Jimmy's flight originated from SLC or connected in SLC from LAX.
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There were frequent nonstops flights between LAX-JFK and a few LAX-Newark in 1969.
Early morning nonstops LAX-JFK would have been offered by American, TWA and United.
While you could have traveled from LAX to JFK via SLC, it would have been inconvenient requiring LAX-SLC via Western and SLC-JFK via United. Other than a nonstop, the most likely route from LAX to NYC would have been via Chicago (O'Hare).
GOT IT! According to Ritchie (Yorkie) Jimmy was flown into and out of JFK. Assuming he
took the most expedient flight - and given the time constraints he undoubtedly did - he
would have flown LAX to JFK & back. If Pam's recollection is correct, he did so on 8/11.
This leaves 7/31 as the sole remaining possibility for Led Zeppelin's Ice Palace concert.
The search for confirmation continues.
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.....there are increasing chances that the date was not Aug. 11, 1969...I will post the chronological dates from Miss P. in line with the official time line dates....later
quickly, She was for sure with Jimmy in her apartment on Aug. 11 listening to ZepII...this is why they went to Newyork Aug. 12th A.M....back...for Elvis...then Lubbox...
(they had one day off before..she went to Everly brothers w/Jimmy Pickup - Limo)
Remember earlier piece of Blocoboy.....Robert phoning the NME...writer Ann Moss...(they know they are going to see elvis on their off days...that would have to be the 12th at night...Elvis had dinner 8:15, and midnight...looks like they probably went to the Midnight, and back on the 13th all of them...for lubbox
....also, Miss P's entry is for July 31, not the 30th...they would have called her this day too after SLC gig (he was off with Catherine James)...this makes me wonder where they were coming from on July 31st...?
...I will post the dates more in sequence...Miss Pamela is correct about her dates...
I am typing this rather quickly...but will sequence it later...
...the Library Services will write to me...will post as I get something...
Just to clarify, Jimmy took Pamela in a white limo to see the Everly Brothers perform at The Palomino in West Hollywood the night of August 5th. Afterward they returned to his
hotel room for the night. Relevant insofar as having eliminated that day off as a possible
date for their unconfirmed Las Vegas concert.
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^^
Inga May, oh yes, Inga might.
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Some flight Information I received, but I am not sure which Airport they would have arrived at in New York...
We're getting closer to proving the Ice Palace gig did or did not happen, I can feel it!
Let me see what I can find.
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Here's a photo of the back of Ice Palace at the Intersection of Karen Avenue and State Street (from the outside of the Village Square Commercial Center):
Nice work as always, Mike. The photos certainly help to visualize what it must have been like, if in fact Led Zeppelin did perform there.
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Pattie Boyd
Oh, tis a smokin' hot shot 'o Pattie. Her book ain't half bad either.
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Hi Steve,
as far as i know the alte oper is not on the same place where they tore down congresshalle, but is a real old opera as the name suggests. built in (google) 1880, got burned down in 2nd WW2, reconstructed and then reopened for (mainly classical) concerts on august 28th 1981. http://www.alteoper.de/_en/indexstart.html
about flyers for the gig, def there were posters and flyers for the frankfurt show, i remember handing out flyers myself as a holidayjob for the local ticket agency, thats why i got the very first batch of tickets for that gig. i might still have some flyers (with my ticket?) somewhere.
posters were not much, i def remember seeing one at the ticket office. kinda big colored letters on dark background,the logo/artwork had not been released, but came with the album
another thing is, upon cleaning up my basement a couple of months ago, i found an old cassette recording we made with sony walkman plus mic then. it´s close to 90 minutes and doesnt sound half bad on my ghetto blaster in the kitchen:) back then we thought we were the coolest bootleggers ever to record a famous band whose album had not even been released, but of course we never did anything much with it - but we listened! i am not much of a torrent freak - are there any decent recordings of that gig floating around ?
You've given me some excellent leads. The poster you described sounds a lot like the
one produced for Hamburg, which makes sense as I think Lippman & Rau promoted the
entire tour. I can reconfirm that. I'll have to get back to you concerning recordings as
I don't have my list with me at the moment. I know that the Lund, Sweden concert is
in circulation and I have quite a few other Firm concert recordings '85-'86.
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hey i was at that show as well, only 16 years old and very much impressed by the musicality of the band, only turned off a little by paul rodger's hawaii shirt..
it was one of my first major concerts ever and i made it to row 3 or 4
jimmy looked a little sick in the beginning of the show, the pics u got here must be from a a few songs into the set when things had settled a bit. oooh, listening to the overture (gustav holst's "planets" as i found out much later) as the room darkened and the taped classical music ending on the climax and stage lights switch ON & there really is jimmy page onstage and they start off with "closer" was very very uplifting for my young heart then. the closer riff became an instant classic for me. of course, no one knew midnight moonlight by then or any other band tune as the album was released months later, but the tunes and solo spots were really great for me & me school friends. i recall getting to the hall as early as afternoon, cause we wanted to try & see if we could get in for soundcheck already.. to our own non-belief we actually somehow managed to get in the hall !! and attended part of the soundcheck - but it was roadies or technicians doing it, not the band itself. still very kool tho for me to see jimmy´s brown telecaster before the actual gig! now, if i only could find my ticket stub, believe it or not - i had number 001 !
Very privledged! I'm exchanging PMs with Arms of Atlas concerning this concert. I have
a few questions about it, specifically if the Kongress Halle was demolished and if the Alte
Oper opera house was built on the site. I also wanted to know if he had seen any press,
posters, or flyers for this show. I have the poster for Audimax in Hamburg ("The New Band for 1984" with their names) but I think each date may have had a poster issued.
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Women should be Dressed like Birthday Presents, the more Layers there are, the more Exciting it gets when you unwrap them, and yes i'm really an Old Fashoned Misogynist at Heart i suppose.
An old saying comes to mind: "A business presentation should be like a woman's skirt, long enough to cover the important bits but short enough to keep your interest".
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I had the pleasure of seeing The Firm in the Frankfurt Kongresshalle at the start of their first European tour. A fantastic night as it was the first time I had seen Jimmy. It was a relatively small venue which is sadly no longer there.
Highlights included :
Going for a beer before the show and suddenly realising Jimmy was walking very close behind me with his entourage on the way to his dressing room . There was a security guard at the dressing room door, Jimmy waved his hand and said "out of the way Fritz !" and with that was gone before I could say a word.
Being in the front row for the whole show. It was a real thrill to be standing in front of him as he sat down and did White Summer/Black Mountain side. It felt like a private guitar lesson.
The band were obviously having a great time and Jimmy looked delighted to be on stage again.
Absolute highlight : Getting his guitar pick !
Only your second post I see - nice to "meet you". I would like to exchange PMs with you sometime concerning that concert and the venue. Meanwhile, here is a link to five front
row photos I posted in Photo Forum (if you haven't seen them already):
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Come on Steve you can do better than that, those Women from the Fifties have so much more Class than that Little Ho, dont you think?
Regards, Danny
Yes, but I like the way Etty carries herself. She seems so uninhibited and a lot of fun.
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Etty Lau Farrell
Eat your heart out, Ross!
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFyhpBOLSjc...re=channel_page
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I saw the Firm In Oklahoma City in 1986! They were fabulous! It was the first time that I had ever seen Jimmy and it was a great experience!
There was a torrential thunder and lighting storm that evening. Supposedly power to the venue went out momentarily during the concert. Do you happen to recall any of this?
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Of course it was serious inquiry , I was asking Steve about the pic he posted.
Oh, he is co-manager of Walrus Systems, but his name escapes me at the moment.
Edit: His name is Les Wong. His business partner is Peter Sanhen.
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i am embarrassed to be a zeppelin fan, with you two arguing about sweaters.
Jimmy at Walrus Systems in London (wearing a favorite jacket)
http://www.walrus.co.uk/main/main.htm
"We specialise in equipment (particularly vinyl playing, and valve amplification) which we feel is top of its class; equipment which lets you concentrate on music and hopefully forget the hardware (sonically, at least). The brands we represent are often very hard to find - some of them are from smaller manufacturers who deliberately seek out retailers able to do them proper justice - others are better known but not widely stocked because they are not understood and their true worth not realised".
I relied on The Concert File for this - usually correct. It did seem like a somewhat strange location, but then again, even more strange if they made a mistake about it, right? Anyway, I went and checked The Press Reports, but these aren't really conclusive either. Probably the date is correct - e.g. July 31 - but there was indeed a report in NME on August 2 that it happened in New York. I don't know what Lewis and Pallett were relying on. In the other press announcements there is no info about where it took place, or indeed when. Here's a couple of photos from the occasion.
jimmy looked a little sick in the beginning of the show, the pics u got here must be from a a few songs into the set when things had settled a bit. oooh, listening to the overture (gustav holst's "planets" as i found out much later) as the room darkened and the taped classical music ending on the climax and stage lights switch ON & there really is jimmy page onstage and they start off with "closer" was very very uplifting for my young heart then. the closer riff became an instant classic for me. of course, no one knew midnight moonlight by then or any other band tune as the album was released months later, but the tunes and solo spots were really great for me & me school friends. 
, I was asking Steve about the pic he posted.
Led Zeppelin in Las Vegas?
in Led Zeppelin Live
Posted · Edited by SteveAJones
Sunday, September 09, 2001
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal
COLUMN: Mike Weatherford
Readers remember The Doors
Jim, be careful how you undulate on that ice! Hey Kurt, can you sign my dressing room?
Last Sunday I claimed Madonna was the last active music star who hadn't played Las Vegas, and asked readers to share memories of rare shows by icons now in rock 'n' roll heaven.
There were plenty of responses, many centering on The Doors playing the Ice Palace skating rink in Commercial Center.
Review-Journal alumna and Preferred Public Relations President Michele Tell referred me to her uncle, Mike Tell, who promoted the concert.
He couldn't confirm the date, listed on some Web sites as Nov. 1, 1969. But he remembers that because Jim Morrison had been arrested for lewd behavior in Miami, both performer and promoter were threatened with arrest.
"There were more security guards and policemen around that stage than you've ever seen," Tell recalls. Morrison was "so intimidated that when he sang, he didn't move."
Michele Tell met Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek a few years ago. He remembered the show for a different reason: "Because they just put flat boards down on the ice, it was freezing," he told her.
What's striking now is how rock concerts were treated by local authorities as a suspicious enterprise, miles removed from the "legitimacy" of the Strip, which was focused on Eddie Fisher and Phil Harris the night of The Doors' visit.
Jon Jacobsen writes that Janis Joplin was "one that got away" in 1969.
"The city and Sheriff Ralph Lamb would not give the promoter a concert permit, saying that the city would be invaded by the Hell's Angels and the youth of Las Vegas corrupted."
Readers Dan Kempf and Sherrill Denley are convinced Led Zeppelin also played the Ice Palace, though a scholarly Web site lists no date.
"Led Zepplins," as the Las Vegas Sun called the band, canceled an April 1970 concert after Robert Plant collapsed onstage in Phoenix the night before.
Some high school students had planned to protest the $6 ticket price.
Do you think any of them paid $75 to see Plant and Jimmy Page at the MGM in 1998?
In the modern era, Nirvana was the rare group not to play here after its landmark "Nevermind" album.
But Craig Alan Boyle, who managed Calamity Jayne's on Boulder Highway, remembers the band opening for Sonic Youth on Aug. 16, 1990. "They were booed offstage by the restless crowd," Boyle recalls. "I personally was in the dressing room watching Kurt Cobain throw a fit
following his set. Before their performance, Kurt and the rest of the band signed the walls of the dressing room.
"Unfortunately," he reports, "new owners not realizing the historic significance, painted the walls in the mid-'90s."