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So it's very possible that the band recorded them at Abbey Road first and overdubbed/finished at Olympic and all outtakes are came from final mixing sessions if I am correct.
Only if Russo's book is correct, otherwise everything was recorded at Olympic. I am seeking to get this cleared up.
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I think those Abbey Road sessions in Sept '68 should read Olympic, then again I don't remember. My notes show Abbey Road according to Greg Russo's 'Yardbirds - The Ultimate Rave-Up!' (3rd edition). Jimmy did do a lot of recording there with The
Yardbirds but I think Greg could be mistaken concerning these Led Zeppelin sessions.
Baby Come On Home
"Baby Come On Home" is a song by English rock band Led Zeppelin. It was recorded during sessions for the band's debut album but remained unreleased until appearing on the 1993 compilation Boxed Set 2.
The track stems from an old master reel labeled 'Yardbirds. October 10, 1968' (Led Zeppelin were called the "New Yardbirds" during their first months of existence). The master tape went missing for a number of years and allegedly turned up in a refuse bin outside Olympic Studios in 1991.[1] It was mixed by Mike Fraser for a much belated release in 1993, with a single to promote the Boxed Set 2.
The song was originally recorded under the title "Tribute To Bert Berns", in honor of the American songwriter and producer who had died in December 1967.[1] It is loosely based on two slightly different songs Berns had written and produced for Hoagy Lands (1964) and Solomon Burke (1965),[citation needed] although the lyrics were completely re-written for Led Zeppelin's version.
On this track, guitarist Jimmy Page played a Leslie guitar and John Paul Jones played piano and a Hammond organ.[1]
"Baby Come On Home" was never performed live by Led Zeppelin or by any of its members.
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So they recorded 1st album at Abbey Road and rehearsed with other musicians at Olympic? There's a little mess with these dates. Every boots attributed entire sessions from the 1st album to Olympic but you listed them as Abbey Road.
Unless I'm seriously mistaken, they recorded as indicated above at Abbey Road first and then Olympic. Jimmy knows it was 30 hours at Olympic because he paid the studio bill. Could be nothing recorded at Abbey Road actually made it onto the first album...today those recordings exist as outtakes.
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Just one more question: do you know anything that can be related with session where a couple of instrumental tunes were recorded and commonly attributed as played by Page and Winwood?
Jimmy Page (about 1968)
In a 1982 interview published in Timothy White's book Rock Lives (1990), Steve Winwood said he "played with Jimmy Page for a solo album of his after he'd left the Yardbirds", then adds that "the music wasn't heavy like Led Zeppelin ... it was quite nice" (!).
A Led Zeppelin bootleg CD called Olympic Gold credits Steve as organist on two tracks, "Instrumental #1" (2:50) and "Instrumental #2" (5:05). The tracks are two takes of the same jam theme, recorded at Olympic studios (London) in September and October of 1968. Some say the organist on these tracks doesn't sound like Winwood though.
A Page / Winwood tape in circulation consists of eight takes working out a song on guitar and organ. Some people have described this as part of the "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" sessions, and some people attribute the organ part to John Paul Jones
rather than Steve. (Thanks to Neil from SP 26-03, 3/96.)
It's interesting to note that in 1966, Page recorded several tracks with Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood and others as The Powerhouse. Winwood and Page both contributed
to Joe Cocker's 'With A Little Help From My Friends' album released in 1969. Is it at all possible one of these is the actual session Winwood recalled in 1990, 20+ years after the fact? In any event, so far as I know the answer to your question remains an unsolved mystery.
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But I'm pretty sure that pic was not taken back then.
My guess would be the Nobel Prize Ceremony, in 2003. It was hosted by Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas. Robert did some songs at the ceremony.
Yes, you are correct.
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Steve,
while browsing this thread I've found that Led Zeppelin attended Abbey Road Studios twice or more to record their first album. More likely these sessions were attributed to Olympic Sound Studios. Can you put a little light on it and tell, which place is correct? Did they only overdubbed material in Olympic and recorded all the stuff in Abbey Road or they did use both studios at the same time? Also, can we have detailed dates related to other sessions? In Dave Lewis' book "The Concert File" (2nd ed ad 2005) only some of sessions are attributed to exact dates.
Thanks in advance,
AA
AA,
Most of the finer details of the Led Zeppelin sessions remain undocumented. There is
no book for them similar to Mark Lewisohn's Complete Beatles Recording Sessions.
Even so, I can shed some light here with a loose overview:
August 1968 Landsdowne Studios
Jones books the other three Led Zeppelin members in on his PJ Proby session as it was a good way to earn money
Fri 9/27/68 Abbey Road Studios
Page/Plant/Bonham/Jones lineup conducts its first album recording session...they record 'Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You' and 'You Shook Me'.
Thu, 10/10/68 Abbey Road Studios
Page/Plant/Bonham/Jones lineup conducts its second album recording session…two takes of 'Tribute To Bert Burns'
October 1968 Olympic Studios
'Led Zeppelin' album is recorded here after a total of 30 hours in this studio
Wed, 3/19/69 BBC Maida Vale Studio
Recording session between 5:30pm and 9pm. 'I Can't Quit You', 'You Shook Me' and 'Sunshine Woman'
Fri, 3/21/69 BBC Lime Grove Studios - Studio G
Short-notice repalcements for The Flying Burrito Brothers; 5:45pm recording session of 'Communication Breakdown' for How Late It Is' telecast at 10:50pm
4/29-30 & 5/1/69 Mirror Sound and/or Gold Star Los Angeles
Studio sessions for second album; a total of six tracks are recorded by the end of their stint in Los Angeles
Sat, 5/10/69 "a hut" (according to Jimmy) Vancouver
Studio session for second album to record harmonica tracks…Page commented in 1977 that he recalled they went there to record vocal overdubs
Mon, 5/19/69 New York
A&R Studios (or) Juggy Sound Studios (or) Mayfair Studios (or) Groove Sound (an eight-track r&b studio)
Studio session for second album
5/20-22/69 A&R Studios (or) Juggy Sound Studios (or) Mayfair Studios
Studio session for second album
5/26/69 A&R Studios (or) Juggy Sound Studios (or) Mayfair Studios
Short-notice studio session for second album in order to catch the fall market
Aug 69 Los Angeles
Page, Bonham & Jones (?) spend a few days in studio with Lord Sutch
8/12/69 A&R Studios New York
Page and Eddie Kramer complete the mixing of 'Bring It On Home' and playback 'Living Loving Maid', 'Heartbreaker' and 'What Is And What Should Never Be'
??? 69 England
Page records "about four takes one afternoon" (according to Harper) of his solo for 'Same Old Rock' on 'Stormcock'…credited as S. Flavious Mercurius
November 1969 Olympic Studios
Tentative recording sessions for third album…'Jennings Farm Blues'
Wed, 5/6/70 Olympic Studios
'Poor Tom' is recorded…it is not mixed until chosen for inclusion on 'CODA'
July-Aug 70 Island Studios - Studio One London
Final recording sessions for 'Led Zeppelin III' begin in July, completed in August
8/18 (or 19) /70 Ardent Studios Memphis, TN
Page completes additional mixing of 'Led Zeppelin III' with engineer Terry Manning
12/70 Island Studios
Led Zeppelin return to this studio to begin work on their fourth album…but fail to achieve results...Page visits upstairs studio as Jethro Tull guitarist Martin Barre performs the second take of 'Aqualung'
Jan/Feb 71 Headley Grange
Recording sessions for the fourth album
4/2/71 Paris Cinema London
Page and Plant return to supervise the editing of last night's BBC Radio 'In Concert' performance into the one-hour format
Tue, 5/11/71 Kensington House - BBC Transcription Studios Shepherds Bush
Page oversees the mono two-track to stereo mixing of their April 1st 'In Concert' performance
3/72 EMI Studios Bombay, India
Page and Plant record 'Four Sticks' and 'Friends' with Bombay Symphony Orchestra
??? 72
Page studio session for Brian Auger's album 'Second Wind' (Polydor 2383 104); guitarist on two tracks
Apr (?) 1972 Olympic Studios
Page is interviewed while in the studio by Ritchie Yorke of Toronto, Canada's 'Rainbow' magazine…he has shaven off his beard and is battling laryngitis…he commutes to and from the studio from his boathouse in Pangbourne...Robert has become a father
May 72 Olympic Studios
Studio sessions for 'Houses Of The Holy'
June 72
Mixing of the material recorded in May at Olympic Studio and 'Houses of the Holy' is recorded
Nov 73 Headley Grange
Recording sessions for the sixth album begin but are cut short on account of Jones becoming ill
2/74 Headley Grange
Recording sessions for the sixth album resume…Plant and Bonham opt to stay in a luxury hotel instead
Spring 74 Stargroves Newbury, Berkshire, England
Studio recording sessions continue with engineer Eddie Kramer and his studio hand Ron Nevison
??? 74 Startling Studios Ascot, Berkshire, England
Page performs solos on 'If You Don't Know' and 'Comin' On Strong' for Maggie Bell's upcoming 'Suicide Sal'
Aug 74 Shepperton Studios Shepperton, Middlesex, England
One week of onstage reenactments with director Peter Clifton for The Song Remains The Same'
10/15/74 Olympic Studios
Page, Keith Richards, Rich Grech and drummer Rich Rowland record one track 'Scarlet', during an all-night session (Page provides solos at 8am)
11/74
Final mixing of 'Physical Graffiti'
8/75 London
Page resumes work on the film 'The Song Remains The Same'
9/75 Studio Instrument Rentals (SIR) Studios Hollywood, CA
Page and Plant are joined by Bonham and Jones for three weeks of on and off rehearsal
sessions for the new album...studio sessions at this location continue through the 1975 World Series (Boston vs. Cincinnati)
11/9-26/75 Arabella Hotel - Musicland Studios Munich, Germany
Led Zeppelin studio sessions for their 'Presence' album are completed the day before Thanksgiving
12/75 Electric Ladyland New York
Page flies to New York City during the Christmas holidays to direct the editing of 'The Song Remains The Same' film and soundtrack
1/76 Electric Ladyland New York
Page produces mixes of the soundtrack for 'The Song Remains The Same'
8/76 Trident Sound Studios Soho, London
Page completes the mixing of 'The Soundtrack for the Film - The Song Remains The Same'
9/12/76 Mountain Studios Montreux, Switzerland
Page produces 'Bonzo's Montreux' and also plays A.R.P. synthesiser and guitar on the track
11/6/78
Flight departure to Stockholm for a series of Monday through Friday sessions
11/14/78 Polar Studios Stockholm, Sweden
'Ozone Baby' is recorded
11/21/78 Polar Studios Stockholm, Sweden
'Wearing And Tearing' is recorded...sessions would result in their album 'In Through The Out Door' / 10 tracks mixed and ready for release by January
2/79 Polar Studios Stockholm, Sweden
Mixing sessions for the new album
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I hope this is new to a few of you-
Unbelieveable.
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John Paul Jones / Foo Fighters
The 50th Annual Grammy Awards Rehearsal
February 7, 2008 Los Angeles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJrl8I8vnHw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RXAlQWHfCc...feature=related
John Paul Jones / Foo Fighters
The 50th Annual Grammy Awards Soundcheck
February 8, 2008 Staples Center Los Angeles:
News Report and Interview:
John Paul Jones / Foo Fighters
The 50th Annual Grammy Awards Performance
February 10, 2008 Staples Center Los Angeles:
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John Paul Jones Acoustic 360 Bass Amp
Imagine a bass amp so special that people just want to touch it, inhale the dust, and have their picture taken next to it. Any Acoustic 360 from the 1960's is a rare find, but this one's iconic. John Paul Jones used this amp and cabinet on stage with Led Zeppelin as early as the Bath Festival on June 28, 1969, continuing until 1976. You can see the stack in the Led Zeppelin 1976 concert movie "The Song Remains The Same," chronicling the band's 1973 Houses of the Holy tour.
Acoustic Amplification snagged this beauty at a recent (July 2008) Christie's auction. We were fortunate to be there to capture the uncrating on video.
Sammy Moir
Guitar Center, Los Angeles
The Christies Auction Advert:
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_det...bjectID=5101185
The Purchase Press Release:
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressReleas...2008+MW20080711
This film clip documents the unpacking of the crate:
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Everyone, wonderful pics!
Haven't been in this thread for a while, but since there's a request...
This is me in sunny Sitges.
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I'd forgotten all about this..the story appears in Chris Charlesworths 1984 book "Slade ,Feel the Noize!"
The details are a little sketchy but it was supposed to have happened in the early part of March 1975 in Dallas..both groups were in town and LZ went to see Slade and threw banana skins on stage from the wings.
Later the same evening Slade went to a party at LZs hotel..during the course of the evening John Bonham took exception to Jim Lea saying he wanted Slade to be as big in the States as LZ or the Stones..JB took exception to this and went fo Lea with a cane..no damage was done but Jim Lea says he never spoke to Bonam again..Noddy Holder said it was forgotten by the next day and he was still friendly with them.
Sounds like any night in any Black Country pub to me.
Hope this is of some help.
Thanks!
Led Zeppelin were flown into Dallas aboard The Starship following their New Orleans concert, so they would have landed in Dallas in the early morning hours of Sat, Mar
1st. They played Ft. Worth (3rd) and two nights in Dallas (4th & 5th) before flying
to Los Angeles (10th) so quite a few opportunities for hijinks with Slade during this
time. Perhaps the date of the Slade gig can more easily be confirmed now.
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The Ventures are touring Japan throughout the summer and I'm thinking of going.
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Robert Plant at the Checkerboard in Chicago
Here's an anonymous contribution:
This is my only celebrity story. I was with some friends at the Checkerboard Club in Chicago, a legendary but by then overrated blues joint. We were there to see Junior Wells. Now Junior could be great or a disaster, depending on how drunk he was when he came onstage. This was not his best night. Still, we enjoyed the first set.
Between sets Robert Plant walks in with a smallish entourage, just a manager and a groupie. This caused a stir among the white clientele, while the blacks were impressively unimpressed. ("Who is he?" the waitress asked me. "Led Zeppelin? What did they do?") When Junior Wells staggered back out he announced that he was being joined by "a very good friend...good friend...London...who is he? who?...Robert Plant!" Plant jumped on stage and gave a very respectable set of blues, backed by Junior's shaky harmonica and his awesome band. (Every southside Chicago blues band is amazing.)
After the second set some of us went up to Plant to say hello. Alas, the conversation was dominated by my Sting-obsessed friend Justin. "Robert!" he said, "Tell me, did you ever meet STING?" Plant admitted that he had. "Wow! You've met Sting!" my doofus friend exclaimed, as the rest of us (especially Plant) flinched. "What is he like? Are you friends?!"
"Well," Plant said, "Sting is rather the definite article, where as I am an indefinite article."
"Robert, I am not sure I understand you" said Justin, despite being an English major.
"Sting is a 'the' whereas I am an 'a,' " Plant explained. He really was a sweet and patient man, and may have been the only sober person in the bar.
"Robert! I'm still not getting you!" Justin flailed.
Robert Plant put his hand on my friend's shoulder and spelled it out: "Sting. is. an. asshole."
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This may have happened in November 1993, as Robert had a couple days off around his Arie Crown Theater concert on 11/3/93, when Blues harpist James Cotton joined him on
'Look Over Yonder', 'Sweet Home Chicago' and 'Gambler's Blues'. I am seeking to confirm
when and if Robert joined Junior Wells as has been related here.
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Not specifically, but I did stand out!!
You can just imagine the hazing and sterotyping that went on with young Evan.
He is a Prince among men, a seeker and a teacher.
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Steve, I have a quote from Robert, but can't tell when and where it was from.
Very interesting. The Slade incident has been confirmed with the exception of the actual day and venue. It's almost certainly May 20th or 21st 1973 in Dallas or Ft. Worth, TX.
Blocoboy is a huge Slade enthusiast and he had said he intended to investigate further.
Insofar as Robert mentioning Black Sabbath, it's somewhat difficult to discern if he is
speaking matter of factly or slipped into his occasional "media mode"...akin to stream
of consciousness or painting with a broad brush...little regard for accuracy.
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Judas Priest opened for them in Oakland if I'm not mistaken.
Back to Sabbath/Zeppelin, I think I remember Plant telling a story somewhere about how he and Bonham would go to Sabbath shows just to taunt the band and say how much they sucked, I'll try and find the exact interview right after I post.
Yes, Judas Priest did open Zeppelin's final North American concert ever on 7/24/77.
They heckled Slade and pelted them with vegetables in Texas (May '73) but I don't
show them doing anything of the sort with Black Sabbath. I'd be interested to see if
anything turns up.
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By pure chance I've come to learn a new acquaintance of mine (who recently interviewed Jimmy in Los Angeles) is seeking to contact Peg LaForce, who as it turns out is a long-lost best girlfriend of hers from nearly 30 years ago. Well, I do know Peg once published a Led Zeppelin fanzine titled 'The Crunge' (and later retitled 'Music Creations') from Jan 1982 till
June 1985 as I have nearly every issue in my archive. Her address at the time was West
Covina, CA. If anyone here should know the whereabouts of Peg please contact me via
PM.
Peg Laforce circa 1981
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Apart from the Empire Pool shows (which were big shows for the band) i had not heard of LZ needing support acts especially on the US tours post 1970. I know a band named 'Horse' supported LZ at these Wembley shows which included Cliff Williams on bass, now a member of AC/DC....
Horse it is. I typed Home.
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Since when did Zeppelin have an opening act in 1971??
Bronco and Stone The Crows opened for Led Zeppelin at the Empire Pool in Wembley on
11/20/71 and Stone The Crows and Horse opened for them at the same venue the next
night. Peter Grant was connected to Stone The Crows:
http://www.alexgitlin.com/stc.htm
...while Bronco, formed in 1970, featured Plant's mates from the Midlands in the lineup.
Back to Sabbath as an opening act, I am perplexed at the moment as I just don't make these things up. I am trying to put my finger on where this was said. I note they played in NY a couple months prior which would make a reappearance more doubtful. Perhaps there is some mention of it in Peter Grant's book? Perhaps it is simply false?
Edited to correct a spelling error.
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Can you tell us more about your relationship with LED ZEPPELIN?
Bill Ward: "Well, we honestly respected the band. We'd known Robert Plant, of course, about the same we knew John Bonham before Zeppelin. He was in a band called The Band of Joy for a long time. So, you know, it wasn't unusual for us to see Robert around town. But when they first came out and that first track came on the air, it was just absolutely phenomenal.
"We were going along in Sabbath, thinking that we were doing pretty good and coming along pretty good. We [had] played a concert in Carlisle (in Northern England) and somebody who was a fan of ours used to let us sleep over night at his house. So we were resting there after the concert at his house when he put on the Zeppelin album. We all sat down and listened to it thinking, 'Oh my God! What are these guys doing?' [laugh] It was just like coming out of nowhere. Because to that point, even though (The Who, you know...) there were some heavy bands around, Cream had established a lot of new ways of playing hard rock music and there were just a couple of bands there... But when Zeppelin arrived, it was a whole new bargain. And when the first Black Sabbath album came out about eight months later, it was like there had been a change in popular music.
"As far as the relationship goes, we've often crossed paths during our career and we spent time with each other socially. We may have a drink, go out, get high, go watch them play, check out their music... Each of us as individual members of Black Sabbath would mingle with the guys. I thought that things were pretty OK with everybody."
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Being a Led Zeppelin fan for over 25 years now and having read and researched as much as I could (can) on the group, I have never heard of Black Sabbath ever having opened up or "supported" Led Zeppelin on any dates on any tour. Of course I am not saying this never happened because I really do not know, but I do find it a little hard to believe. I just checked in my copy of Dave Lewis' book "the Concert File" and there is no reference in that book that that ever took place on the two dates mentioned. However, being a fan of both groups, I would like to think that this did actually take place because then we would have some proof that these two great "pioneers" actually did share a stage (back and front) together.
Black Sabbath was brought in as an opening act for those two shows on short notice.
If I'm not mistaken the second edition of Lewis & Pallet's 'Led Zeppelin - The Concert
File' does reference this, but then again perhaps not. I just noticed it isn't mentioned
in the official timeline. Even so, it makes perfect sense that they would do if both were
in New York state at the same time. I can dig for some quotes but it is also presented here among other places:
http://www.black-sabbath.com/tourdates/1972.html
Again, I will look into this further as it does seem to require additional substantiation.
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And then the night got weirder as Jimmy Page was joined by Joan Jett in D.C.
Just three years later Joan Jett & The Blackhearts were enjoying singles chart success
and selected as the opening act for the second leg of Robert's 1988 North American tour. I thought they were very energetic as his support act...it was a perfect match.
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During Page/Plant live performances? Hush Puppies.
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Okay, what the hell is this? Jimmy and The Beach Boys? When was this recorded and for what reason?
Sorry, watched the full thing and figured it's July 4th celebrations? I'm a Canadian eh.
The June 21st 1985 edition of the 'Houston Chronicle', among other sources, reported Page among several artists to perform with The Beach Boys in Philadelphia on the fourth of July. His performance with them in Washington was also reported in advance.
July 4th 1985
Philadelphia Art Museum - Philadelphia Freedom Festival
Page joined Beach Boys "From Sea to Shining Sea" set for an unrehearsed rendition of 'Lucille'. 1,500,000 in attendance.
Page boarded the Beach Boys bus enroute to the airport and then took a helicopter into Washington.
The Mall - Washington D.C.
Page joined the Beach Boys for unrehearsed renditions of 'Surfin' USA' and 'Barbara Ann'. 750,000 in attendance. Page also interviewed backstage by 'MTV' and NBC's 'Entertainment Tonight'.
The video clips in circulation originally aired as the television program 'The Beach Boys - Bring On The Summer'.
The book The Beach Boys: The Definitive Diary Of America's Greatest Band On Stage And In The Studio says:
The album Fourth Of July - A Rockin' Celebration Of America is released on Mike's custom Love Foundation label. Among performances by other artists it includes versions of 'Back In The USSR' with Ringo Starr on drums, 'Surfer Girl' with Julio Iglesias, and 'Barbara Ann' with Jimmy Page and friends...
Link to promotional flyer: http://danvollmer.fotopic.net/p7795711.html
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I show Morgan Studios in London, June 1969.