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That Bonham sure knew how to party. Didn't he also throw George Harrison into a pool at his wedding?
5/31/73 Laurel Canyon, CA
After-show party to celebrate John Bonham's 25th Birthday at a private residence (possibly JJ Jackson's home)…George Harrison hits Bonham with his own birthday cake…many people were thrown into pool...Jimmy was allowed to walk in...fully clothed
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A very interesting contribution to this thread. Sheds light on some of the reasons why Jimmy, among many other musicians, found Crowley so compelling.
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For it is sorcery — as one might say –
When the pale opal wine ends all misery,
Opens beauty’s most intimate sanctuary –
Bewitches my heart, and exalts my soul in ecstasy!
– from the essay “The Green Goddess”, by Aleister Crowley. The original manuscript is currently owned by Jimmy Page.
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Hard not to think his memory isn't playing tricks on him--the part about everyone previously staying in their seats to listen to bands, I mean. The Beatles, the Stones, many lesser bands--the place would be chaos, long before Zeppelin.
His memory is indeed mistaken...
Elvis Presley Jacksonville, FL. Florida Theater (3 shows per day) 10-11 August, 1956
Elvis appeared at the Florida Theatre in Jacksonville, FL. Juvenile Court Judge Marion Gooding warned Elvis in chambers after the first show that he must tone down his act. Elvis told reporters 'i can't figure out what I'm doing wrong'. Elvis modifies his show nonetheless, wiggling his little finger suggestively with a gesture that replaces some of his less restrained body movements and at the same time still drives the audience wild.
'One of the most memorable events in the theatre's history occurred in 1956, when Elvis Presley came to the Florida Theatre for his first concert appearance on an indoor stage. Presley, the City of Jacksonville and the Florida Theatre found themselves subjects of a LIFE Magazine feature when Juvenile Court Judge Marion Gooding sat through the performance to ensure that Presley's body movements would not become too suggestive'. Florida State Theater.
Fan Recalls Beatles Invasion Of Jacksonville
Edited by Gary Detman
5 years ago By Deanna Fene First Coast NewsJACKSONVILLE, FL -- Forty years ago, the Beatles invaded America.
It included a stop right here on the First Coast.
"Once you saw them in concert you were pretty much hooked, even though your parents might not have wanted you to go to the concert," said Rick Fryefield.
Rick was just ten years old when he first saw the Beatles live in concert at the Gator Bowl.
"I guess I was screaming like the rest of them."
The Beatles arrived in Jacksonville in September of 1964.
They were starving as they sat down for a press conference.
"We usually eat in the room but seeing the hotel didn't have room for us, we have to eat here unfortunately," said one band member.
The Beatles were supposed to stay at the Washington Hotel, but there was a mix-up and they ended up staying in a trailer next to the Gator Bowl.
Forty years later, Rick is still a huge fan.
He has the same guitar that Paul McCartney once used.
And like many fans, Rick believes their music will live forever.
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I know that I am about to answer some my own topic description, however, I would like to know what others out there may know about this topic. What I may know or have read is probably different than what you know or read. What I know is what I have read in various books, magazines and fanzines about Led Zeppelin over the years concerning the "mighty" Led Zeppelin and the equally great Black Sabbath. Remember, this is what I have read: how true or accurate this is I do not really know. Maybe some of yous out there have read the same and can maybe corroborate some of this.
1. Fact: John Bonham and Robert Plant both grew up in or around the industrial city of Birmingham, England. I also believe that most or all four members of Black Sabbath did also. Whether they knew of or associated with each other or possibly jammed out together in their early years, I have not heard or read. Possibly.(?)
2. Fact: John Bonham, Ozzy Osbourne and Tony Iommi (plus others) all invested in a record store in Birmingham called Heavy Heads Record Shop in 1971.
3. Fact: Ozzy Osbourne has said numerous times that he and the other members of Black Sabbath listened to both copies of Led Zeppelin and Led Zepplein II at the times of their release (both in 1969). Ozzy has also said that Robert Plant is one of his favorite singers and that the "middle" section of "Whole Lotta Love" is fucking awesome.
Now on to the speculation. I have read this but cannot verify if this events ever took place. Maybe you can help, corroborate or clarify.
1. John Bonham was Tony Iommi's best man at Tony's wedding (when and what year I do not know).
2. John Bonham and Robert Plant visited and were present at one (or more) of Black Sabbath's recording sessions of their album "Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath" in 1973. I wish I could remember or dig out where I read this but it was at least 10 years ago and I have since forgotten. I do remember reading this and being highly surprised.
Lastly, there is a famous quote from Mr. John Paul Jones where he said after the release and success of Led Zeppelin IV, "No one ever compared us to Black Sabbath after this record".
I have posted to the forum before concerning this (search function). In a nutshell, Bill Ward met Bonham in 1965. Ozzy used to socialize with the Bonham's at Old Hyde Farm. Tony himself has said Bonham served as best man at his first wedding:
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TONY IOMMI: 'BLACK SABBATH Used To Jam With LED ZEPPELIN All The Time' - May 2, 2005 In a head-to-head Sirius Satellite Radio interview with "Sound of the Beast" author Ian Christe, BLACK SABBATH guitarist Tony Iommi exclusively reveals this week that he has studio tapes of BLACK SABBATH jamming with LED ZEPPELIN during the mid-1970s.
"BLACK SABBATH used to jam with LED ZEPPELIN all the time." reports the Birmingham-born Iommi. "We'd be trying to rehearse and they'd come interrupt us. I've got some tapes floating around the house." During the exceptional in-depth session Iommi also reveals stories of having John Bonham serve as best man at his raucous first wedding, being chastised by Bill Ward's mom after setting her son on fire, his early days playing Buddy Holly cover songs in the 1960s, receiving a Gibson SG from Leslie West, and the desire to record new BLACK SABBATH material.
The interview airs twice this week (Tuesday, May 3 at 9:00 p.m. EST and Friday, May 6 at 1:00 p.m. EST) on Sirius "Hard Attack"/27's weekly "Bloody Roots" heavy metal history lesson, hosted by Christe. The show will also include rare SABBATH demo tracks, and two songs from the upcoming Iommi solo album, "Fused".
For more information, visit www.sirius.com/hardattack.
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Black Sabbath supported Led Zeppelin on short notice in Syracuse (9/10/71)
and Rochester (9/11/71).
Led Zeppelin allegedly dropped in on Black Sabbath to check on the progress of their fourth album and jammed on their new song 'Supernaut' (unrecorded) at the Record
Plant in Los Angeles (6/26/72).
Heavy Head Records in Spark Hill, Birmingham was opened by Bev Bevan. He also had his own football team "Heavy Head Records Eleven", which included Bev Bevan, Rick Price and Carl Wayne. Bev organized the Heart Beat '86 charity event at the NEC
in 1986 which Robert Plant participated in.
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Classic Rock Magazine has quote from Gary Roissiton from their Zepp special issue recently
"I saw Zeppelin live twice in Jacksonville Fl at the Jacksonville Mem Coliseum.
We had a band then. i think we were called Lynyrnd Skynrd but we could have still going by the name The One Percent. I rememer Jethro Tull opened for them and they were great. but eveyone kept in thier seats. When we saw Zeppelin they blew our minds because all of the girls ran up to the stage. Until then everybody stayed in their seats just to listen to bands. Zeppelin were just unbeleivable. They came out and played so good . Page broke out the violin bow and started going...[imitates sounds}. We thought that was so cool"
Thanks for this...clarifies Lynrd Skynrd members were ticket holders as opposed to having shared the bill with Led Zeppelin.
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Steve, I remember hearing or reading many years ago about a concert in either 75 or 77 that Zeppelin played with Lynyrd Skynyrd on the bill that Skynyrd absolutely blew Zeppelin away, much like Zeppelin did to other bands in their early days. Do you have anything in your archives that addresses this?
Zooma,
No, this never happened. Led Zeppelin and Lynrd Skynyrd never shared the same bill.
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Fascinating finds have once again been presented here by Blocoboy. A standing ovation!
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I posted this elsewhere but thought this might be a better place for it as Steve seems to be the master. As follows:
I'm slightly embarrassed to have to be asking this, as I know I should know what this is but I just can't put my finger on it, soooooo....
I was listening to the "Dazed & Confused" from the May 14, 1973 New Orleans show, and just after the call and response part of the solo, the band breaks into this jam that sounds like a song I have heard before...but I am drawing a blank after racking my brain all day.
To help out, I am specifically listening to Godfatherecords' "Drag Queen of New Orleans" boot, and the mystery jam lasts from approximately 21:00 to 21:35 of Dazed & Confused on Disc 2.
It sounds killer and I don't remember ever hearing the band play this jam in any other Dazed & Confused, but something about the jam suggests another song.
So if any of you out there have this show and can help identify the song this jam is based on, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I don't have this show with me to play through, but is it not Cream's 'Crossroads' ?
Edit: This from Otto Masson:
I am using a different bootleg for this show, but I just had a listen, and to me that passage sounds quite a bit like "Rollin' and Tumblin'". I am also hearing Jimmy quote "Crossroads" much earlier in the song, just before they do the San Francisco bit.
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...well, I magnified the image, and the phone no. has now two possibilities ..
826-1971 Or 826-1941
You are right also, but back then it looks like area code 212 was in effect for New York...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_year_did_Ne..._million_people
...as for the words up top on the phone number...the last three are Mom......
...so it seems the forklift in the photo bears a NYC phone number beyond a reasonable doubt. Excellent. There is simply splendid collaboration going on in this thread.
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Backstage at Madison Square Garden. June 10th, 1977.
The amateur video footage of the show has both Plant and Bonham in those exact outfits. Whereas this wouldn't normally be useful, since the band frequently wore the same outfits every few nights, this is the only known show where Plant wore that shirt or those pants. So, it pretty much makes it beyond reasonable doubt definite, especially since Bonham's outfit matches too.
Very nicely done; all I can add here is Robert wore that necklace on the USA '77 tour.
It's difficult to read phone number on the forklift in the low-resolution scan provided
but if legible the prefix could possibly be confirmed as a NYC number.
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And I should say that a fellow fan from FBO correctly pointed out that the 4th photo is from a very well known photos session in 1969. If you recall,there are the 4 members of the band sitting around a kitchen table with a box of Rinso detergent in the foreground. So maybe it is'nt from video after all-but anything is possible.
That's right, Frank. It seems to be an outtake photo from that session. My copy of
Assemblage is not within arm's reach so I'm unable to compare and contrast the
other three against it.
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Thanks to you all for help. did any of the group shots appear in the 1977 tour programme?
My copy is on another continent at the moment. Perhaps someone here can respond?
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^^^
...Al at the crossroads trying to flag a ride...
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The photo session for People magazine (and used for a few others, like Grooves) was done in NY while they were there promoting The Song Remains the Same, late Oct. '76.
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/image/photos-ho...nes/people-1976
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/image/photos-ho...es/grooves-1976
The '77 rehearsals photos were this session:
Many thanks for the clarification, Sam; I've updated my files. I believe the rehearsal photo you highlighted is from Manticore Studios (Jan '77).
Here's to you:
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I read sometime ago, that after rehearsals in London there was a group picture taken before they embarked on the North American tour. The only Picture I could think of would be the one used by People magazine? Source. This was something from the early days of the internet and the gist of the article was about Led Zeppelin returning to touring.
Oh, I see. The date of the People magazine issue with them on the cover in a posed portrait shot is Dec 20th 1976. IMHO, it's more plausible it was taken as rehearsals began in late November or prior to the Christmas break they took from rehearsing
as opposed to after they concluded in January '77, given the date of publication. It
does seem to be the one your thinking of.
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I was wondering, while on another forum I saw that in July 1979 - Led Zeppelin film their rehearsal at Bray Studios. Is there any footage of this available or is it in the "vault"? I have used the "search" option without much luck.
Perhaps there is some confusion. Bray Studios was often used for film productions
(Hammer produced several horror films there for example) but so far as I know the
Led Zeppelin rehearsals were not filmed.
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Led Zeppelin Manager Peter Grant Aboard the Brighton Belle April 30, 1972
Courtesy of my friend Horselunges comes this fantastic new find:
1972 newsreel depicting the final run of the Brighton Belle all-Pullman electric service which commenced services from London to Brighton (using the same stock depicted here - SR Class 5BEL/BR Class 403) in 1933. The passenger shown at 1:26 is none other than Led Zeppelin Manager Peter Grant!
OUTSTANDING!
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I could be wrong here but wasn't she the lady mentioned in "Living Loving Maid"?
Have never heard that one before. It's an interesting suggestion.
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Hi Steve-
Don't know if anyone has asked this before-
On the DVD - Traveling Riverside Blues promo there is footage of an older woman touching Robert's hair and singing? Who is she? Is there a story behind that?
So far as I know she was simply a member of the hotel staff where they were staying at the time. I believe there's also a photograph of that or a similar encounter in circulation.
Perhaps someone else has heard something different about this footage but I have not.
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Let's just admit it, these mags are just the same old stories over and over, year after year. Whatr i do like is seeing photos I have never seen before, but the stories....nothing new! Been there, done that!
The Guitar World (Sept 2009) issue contains a recent interview with Jimmy Page to promote the new film 'It Might Get Loud'.
Hit Parader, after 500+ issues, does seem to have lost it's reason for existence and just
continues to churn out endless best of, top 10, top 50, top 100 lists with nothing new or substantial to report. They do have a knack for putting Led Zeppelin on the cover to help the bottom line.
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Hit Parader July 2009 (USA)
Guitar World September 2009 (USA)
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Staci Layne Wilson
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"Page's fingers become hopelessly entangled in the strings?"
I mean, there's a bad guitar solo, and there's screwing up so badly the roadies have to come and disentangle you from your guitar. "We might have to saw the neck off, Jimmy."
I have a film of Jimmy's performance at one of the two ARMS Benefit Concerts held at the Cow Palace near San Francisco (Dec 1-2 1983) and as the guitar tech attempts to
take his guitar the neck inadvertently thwacks Jimmy upside the head. It had to hurt!
Perhaps this show is available on youtube or elsewhere.
5 years ago By 
Zeppelin Mysteries Hosted by Steve A. Jones
in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
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Lynyrd Skynrd didn't become a prominent act until 1973, and the only festival dates Led Zeppelin played then onward was Knebworth (Aug 4 & 11 1979). Skynyrd did play the 1976 Knebworth Festival...perhaps he meant their '76 Knebworth was better than Zep's '79 gigs at the same venue. Who the hell knows. I do know they never shared the same venue on the same date and were never on the same bill...ever...anywhere.
Led Zeppelin only performed in two Pennsylvania cities - Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.