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Thank you. I know very well about rust on the memory; I suffer from it myself at times. However, as long ago as it was and as addled as my brain is, I will never forgot those last three nights in the Forum in late March '75 - the last time I saw Zep perform live.
I just realized Jimmy and William S. Burroughs did in fact meet in February '75!
WSB attented Led Zeppelin's after show reception hosted by Atlantic Records at Madison Square Garden - Penn Plaza Club at 2 Penn Plaza in NYC on Feb 3rd 1975.
It's quite possible this meeting led to their interview published in Crawdaddy.
Andy Warhol, Keith Moon, and Amanda Lear also attended.
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I saw the Honeydrippers at Hard Rock Cafe in NYC, maybe 1985. Hard to remember the exact year. What a great place to see Robert! I didn't get to touch him but my friend and I got close! That was a unique show since the performance was on the balcony level of the Cafe. Much different environment than a typical concert. Very intimate.
Robert Plant and The Honeydrippers, so far as I know, never performed in NYC. Their August 5th 1985 Madison Square Garden concert was cancelled.
How certain are you about where you saw them?
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Steve Jones, factmaster.Why didn't that group stay together longer? They were good.
According to Robert, he had tired of their "menopausic rumblings" and on October 14th 1985 he issued a press release stating all of the members of his band were out. It's interesting to note the Led Zeppelin rehearsals in Bath were held that January, so one could argue they were actually disbanded in the hopes of a Led Zeppelin reunion.
When Bill Curbishley took over management of his solo career in August 1986 one of
the first decisions they made was that it would be best to assemble a far younger
lineup for Robert to perform and record with. Robert got in touch with Phil Johnstone
through Virgin Records and through Johnstone, Plant met Dave Barrett. Within two
days, he was writing new material with them. Plant contacted Chris Blackwell and
Doug Boyle about a month later and Charlie Jones was brought in during the final
stages of album recording to replace Phil Scragg.
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I saw them back in 1980-something. I remember Plant saying something about Bonzo, and everyone applauded and cheered (I think it must have been Bonzo's birthday). I also remember people up in the rafters over the stage, with their legs hanging down. They were swinging their legs back and forth to the music. It was a good concert.
The Metro Center in Minneapolis on May 31st 1988.
Onstage he said "today is May the 31st, a special day for me…my old mate Bonzo's birthday...(dedicates 'Black Country Woman' to John Bonham) "
FYI, that morning Robert was flown into Holman Airport from Midway Airport in Chicago. He stayed the night at The Whitney hotel located at 150 Portland Avenue. Next day he was flown to General Mitchell Field in Milwaukee.
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Hi Steve,
I think (I may be wrong, though):
The interview appeared in the June '75 issue of Crawdaddy (after the group's '75 U.S. tour). fwiw, I was at the last LZ concerts on their U.S. tour that year and those were the LA Forum concerts at the end of March '75. I always thought that Crawdaddy was a U.S. publication.
You are correct on both points, it's the June 1975 issue and a USA publication. The article is titled "Rock Magic". It is possible their interview was conducted in New York
in Feb 1975 and I was thinking of the Crawdaddy concert venue, which is in London.
I've been away from the site this week so I'm shaking the rust off my memory at the
moment!
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Steve,I could be wrong ,but I think Jude put that there as the Cuckoo clocks were originally made IN the Black Forest of Germany .Perhaps she may have not known of refference to Midwich Cookoos from a book. Who knows I may be incorrect?
I think she was just trying to be funny but I tried to add some value to it. The Midwich
Cuckoos has nothing whatsoever to do with cuckoo clocks. Also, It's an Anglo-Saxon
tale, not Germanic.
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Black Forest Germany
I have been there many times, but there is no mysterious connection to Zeppelin aside
from Robert expressing an eagerness to see a girl in Heidelberg around the time of their concert at the Festhalle in Frankfurt in December 1998.
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A question related to my post here: http://forums.ledzeppelin.com//index.php?showtopic=3699
When William S. Burroughs was alive, did he and Jimmy Page ever meet one another again after the '75 concert and interview? I often wondered about this because it seems, from what I read in Burroughs' Crawdaddy piece, that the two had some common interests.
So far as I know, they never met again. Their interview appears in the Jun 1975 issue
of Crawdaddy, a monthly music magazine which was published in the UK. It does touch
on a phenomenal range of shared interests and underground topics.
Here's an excellent link to learn more about the life and death of William S. Burroughs:
http://www.lawrence.com/news/burroughs/10yearsafter/
(Edit: Date correction)
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John Paul Jones Fantasy Sequence in TSRTS
Horselunges has conducted an extensive review of the film in contrast with photographs from the time, and specualtes the woman holding child in the hallway is none other than
Jimmy's woman Charlotte Martin and their daughter Scarlet. Anyone care to speculate
for or against? I'm still seeking confirmation of which cemetary was used for the filming
of the horseride at night.
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Steve,
This may not be a mystery per se,more of a subjective opinion on your part.
On Plant's solo efforts up to and including Fate of Nations,which guitarist do you feel was the best fit with Plant?
Robbie Blunt, who appeared on his first three solo albums (1981-1985). I also happen to
believe he remains the best fit if you consider the Strange Sensation era too.
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TURN THAT HEARTBEAT OVER AGAIN
(Steely Dan)
With stocking face I bought a gunThe plan was set the plan was doneLooked at my watch and started for the doorNow the food here ain't so good no moreAnd they closed the package storeCHORUS:Love your mama, love your brotherLove 'em till they run for coverTurn the light off, keep your shirt onCry a jag on meOh Michael Oh Jesus you know I'm not to blameYou know my reputation for playing a good clean gameOh Michael Oh Jesus I'll keep my promise whenYou turn that heartbeat over againMy poison's named you know my brandSo please make mine a double,SamStir it up nice I'll eat it right hereThis highway runs from ParaguayAnd I've just come all the wayCHORUSWe warned the corpse of William WrightNot to cuss and drink all nightTicket in hand I saw him laid to restBut zombie see and zombie doHe's here with me and youCHORUS -
Maybe someone can solve this mystery for me. On the inside booklet of the cd Zeppelin IV, there is a small picture of what I assume to be an alchemist reading a book. Was this pic ever on the album? Mind you, it's been a long time since I've actually owned a vinyl copy of Zeppelin IV, but I sure don't recall this picture being on it. Although, I have seen the picture somewhere before.
Anyone have a clue?
If you could post a scan of the picture it may help.
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Magic Sam, that was a very nicely done "execution" (hardy har har). I had about a half-page of comments to add but my connection crapped out and the post didn't hit the site.
Basically, I wanted to highlight the alleged "cease and desist order" has never been made
public. I collaborated with Greg Russo on his book 'Yardbirds - The Ultimate Rave-Up! (3rd edition) and it was great experience to go into The Yardbirds world a devout Pageologist.
I think I held up well under the withering fire between Camp Jimmy, Camp Jeff, and Camp
Dreja/McCarty. If anyone asks them or it seems their fans for that matter about the Page-
era Yardbirds you'll get multiple variations of what everyone calls the truth. People would
fire back and forth about did Jeff cry, did Jimmy steal Tangerine for weeks. Jimmy offered
to redo the Anderson Theater release back in '91 and was rebuffed. That tells me there's
still a little bad blood from a business standpoint. There's no doubt all parties concerned
remain friends after all these years.
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Steve,
I've just read that Bonzo owned an AC 428 Frua auto which was subsequently sold to Keith Moon. This is the first I've heard of this. Interesting! Have you ever heard mention of this?
Thanks
Frank,
That's news to me also.
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Hey everyone, I've been having some trouble with this, and recieved some advise to pm Steve. I have my own thread in the master forum with the same title. but now this looks like a good place to request some info on my own mystery.
My response to the inquiry was that a search of over 7,000 articles in my database has
turned up no match to the article allegedly published.
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I think the vandalized car was white. I don't know why they took offense it's just a car.
Oh, no. Not just a car. For many, it's a status symbol and he parked it in the middle
of a rough neighborhood.
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Is that the same Rolls-Royce that he drove to someone's wedding and some people trashed it?
Quite possibly so. He'd parked it in the street and the local yobs "took offense" and vandalised it.
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Here's the story (edit):
That's a great "strange tale from the road"! Many thanks for taking the time to post it here. I'll have to search around and see if any press reviews can be located which may
further substantiate these shenanigans.
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Any details on the conception/discussion of this particular reunion would be very cool to see/read and I give thanks in advance for any and all answers provided...
Atlantic Records' 40th Annivesary Concert - "It's Only Rock n' Roll"
Madison Square Garden
New York, New York
Saturday, May 14th 1988
This concert was arranged to promote Atlantic Records' 40th Anniversary. Atlantic was of course a New York-based record label. Several stars from the history of the label were booked to perform. The American press began reporting rumors of a possible Led
Zeppelin reunion with Jason Bonham on drums the week prior.
Jimmy, John Paul Jones & Jason rehearsed 15 to 20 songs at Nomis Studio in London
during the last couple weeks leading up to the event. Robert was touring the USA.
Jimmy arrived in NYC on May 11th. He immediately checked in to his hotel and never
left his room with the exception of the rehearsals which were held later that day and
the next.
In the early morning hours of Thu, May 12th, Robert departed from Monroe County Airport in Rochester, NY and arrived at Teterboro Airport near New York City. Upon
arrival he checked in to the Essex Hotel at 160 Central Park South. He joined the other three for rehearsals on that day and they rehearsed and held a soundcheck on Friday.
A final rehearsal was held the day of the show. Everyone agreed they sounded simply magnificent. Even so, Jimmy's nerves were fragile, having not performed in front of a live audience for quite some time. Robert performed a set as a solo artist with his band early in the evening and told the HBO pay-per-view audience "...I'll be back" during his backstage interview with host Richard Townsend.
Jimmy got to the venue later that evening, expecting to plug in and play. Unfortunately,
the event had seriously overun it's scheduled timing, and Led Zeppelin waited for many
hours before taking the stage.
The tale of the tape: Watch JPJ's look of concern melt into a grin as Jimmy finds his
fingers during the Heartbreaker solo. Watch Jimmy nervously shuffle his legs while
waiting for Robert to introduce Misty Mountain Hop. See the smiles all around at the
end, which seemed to come just as they'd shaken off the nerves and found a groove.
The aftermath: As to be expected, emotion overruled reality for some time. The fans
raved that it was triumphant and stunning. The critics loved it. Disappointment began
to set in when Jimmy watched the playback of the video and heard how abominable
the audio feed was. "He should be strung up by the balls" he said, concerning the man
responsible.
If time permits I'll try to post some photos from this event in the photo forum within
the next couple days.
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Steve-the traveler of both time and space,
I saw Plant on the Manic Nirvana tour at Alabama Birmingham campus 10-25-90.Plant was sporting a Jimmy Page t-shirt during his set.
Was there a particular significance to this? The date? Did Plant do this at other venues? Did he visit a local headshop and like what he saw...?
Also... a food fight ensued on stage midway through his set. Plant was pummeled with vegetables.
Can you guess/do you know the reason behind the food fight?
There's no particular significance to his wearing of the Jimmy Page Led Zeppelin t-shirt.
He wore the same shirt on several of the other dates during that last leg of the USA
tour. The Led Zeppelin Boxed Set had been released that Autumn and I believe that
shirt was also recently released to coincide with it. I believe the shirt was licensed
thru Winterland Productions. My point is it was not a bootleg or fan-made shirt.
I've never heard anything concerning a food fight in Birmingham, Alabama. Please share
your story with the board or email me privately thru my profile page. Thanks!
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I believe it was a Trans-Am where Bonzo was pulled over for speeding 90 MPH in L.A.
I also recall a story that Jason told about his father buying a Rolls-Royce for cash and driving it thru the dealership's glass window.
Here's a photo of part of his collection.
Thanks, Frank. That's one of the photos I intended to post. That was taken in Los Angeles, in 1969 if I remember right.
The story about the Rolls Royce is essentially true. The reason for his aggressive
stance was because the dealer was acting very condescending towards him as
he looked it over. When he opened the door to sit behind the wheel the dealer
said to him "Dear, Sir", meaning you can't possibly afford it. John did purchase
the car after telling the dealer to have the paint resprayed and "don't talk like
that to me again".
Another great Bonzo car story goes back to when he lived in a modest home in
West Hagley, before he purchased his farm. He was washing his Rolls in his drive.
A neighbor walking past saw this and stood transfixed with bemusement. When
John looked over at him the man snickered and said "Well, I've never seen a
man wash his own Rolls before". John reared back and kicked the car, then
shouted to the man something like "Bet you'd never seen a man kick his own Rolls either, now sod off!"
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69/70 are my favourite.
I'll see what can be posted over the weekend.
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Thank you, these are very nice, esp that first one. Btw, where do you come across all of these?
I knew you would appreciate the first one the most.
Everything I post here comes from my private archive which was built one item, one
contact, one opportunity at a time over the past three decades. If there is a specific
Jimmy Page concert or era your interested in seeing here just let me know and I'll see what can be done.
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Jimmy Page (The Firm)
Kongresshalle
Frankfurt, Germany
December 3rd 1984
Photo Credit: Petra Pommerenke (Images 1 thru 4)
Photo Credit: A. Shoemaker (Image 5)
All Photos Courtesy of Steve A. Jones Archive
Steve Jones, factmaster.
The honeydrippers
in Pre / Post-Zeppelin Forum
Posted · Edited by SteveAJones
This is gettting very intriguing.
The SNL thing was an ad-hoc Honeydrippers, not the whole lineup. Brian Setzer of The Stray Cats filled in on guitar. That performance was put together as the album had just sold 100,000 copies -- well beyond expectations -- and he'd flown in from England.
Looking at everything I have chronicled, I would bet the Hard Rock Cafe performance
was within the last ten days of May 1985. He was in NYC doing media stuff before
going to Dallas for tour rehearsals. A promotional party to celebrate the release of
'Shaken n Stirred' was held in NYC on May 22nd 1985 and he did give a live interview and answer listener's questions on nationally-syndicated 'Rockline' on May 27th 1985.
Last ten days of May 1985...Memorial Day weekend...am I jogging any memories? It
would be so cool to confirm a previously unconfirmed performance. I do have some
doubt they'd perform prior to tour rehearsals, pushing this into a July 20th - August 5th time frame when several dates were cancelled, opening up other possibilities as
New York City, Uniondale (Nassau) and Saratoga Springs, NY were all cancelled.
Edit: I don't think it was around the time of the SNL thing because the full group had
not accompanied him from England, so far as I know.