True, but at least American Idol is finding and has found some wonderful singing talents (i.e. Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Hudson) and Dancing With The Stars is pretty cool although I don't watch it regularly. It is when some of these famous for being famous types or those still trying to stay in the spotlight, have a reality show about their personal lives what irritates me!! If the media could ignore some of this crap, alot of these people would just go away. It is all so phony, IMO!