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What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
Bring It on Home - 19/09/1970 (Evening) R.I.P. Jimi! (Technically yesterday was the anniversary...forty-two years. We're still missing you!) -
Oh, I understand all that. I think it might have grown tired if they'd tried to emulate or work within that style. I was just mentioning my enjoyment of what he did contribute vocally.
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I thought the same thing. He's always seemed quite shy about his voice. While it might not be anything to write home about, his vocal contributions have always been cherished by me. (I particularly enjoy hearing him during "Thank You," and the live "Tangerine" from the Forum 72 show.)
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What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
"Ten Years Gone" - 17/07/1977 -
Finding Led Zeppelin in unrelated places
Melcórë replied to marmorek's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
The title of this thread reminds me of a very scary site I came across earlier. -
What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
The Song Remains the Same >> The Rain Song [12/02/1975] -
What The Famous Say About Led Zeppelin
Melcórë replied to SuperDave's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
"Musical genius"? I disagree with you there. I see you guys are blind Ringo haters. That's cool. Read The Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewisohn. Track-by-track, recording date-by-recording date - Ringo was the only member who had consistency. If you can't hear how good he could be, then you're really unreachable. I blame the mixing, for the most part, which made him sound so horribly thin and pushed him far to the back. Showboating and soloing isn't everything in drumming - it wasn't "Moby Dick" or "Over the Top" which put Bonzo, well, over the top, it was his playing during songs like "Achilles Last Stand." -
What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
Thank You - 22/01/1973 -
What The Famous Say About Led Zeppelin
Melcórë replied to SuperDave's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Boo. Listen to "Revolution" nice and loud - that man could work those drums, when he needed to. He was also the most steady/least apt to mess up in the studio, as Lewisohn noted. -
What The Famous Say About Led Zeppelin
Melcórë replied to SuperDave's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
To be fair, he does point out the solos specifically - but it's telling that he declared his ambivalence long after John's passing...after all, he might have been "knocked out" by Bonzo if he'd said that way back when... -
The Official Yardbirds Thread
Melcórë replied to Horrorshow_Plant's topic in Pre / Post-Zeppelin Forum
You needn't wonder - listen to the early Zeppelin songs ("Dazed," et al.) and tell me you don't hear Pagey using his old licks again. -
What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
"Sick Again" from the 11/03/1975 SBD - this has to be my favourite 75 SBD in terms of sound (aside from Flying Circus). -
What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
The Song Remains the Same >> Sick Again [21/06/1977] -
Gah, the spelling, it burns mine eyes! Hopefully Jimmy doesn't put too much stock in all this (largely) post-mediaeval/pre-modern occultism.
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What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
"The Song Remains the Same" from 22/01/1973. -
What show or live song are you listening to now?
Melcórë replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
Just listened to "The Wanton Song" from 12/01/1975. -
I think you're being far too harsh on the popular groups of the '60s and '70s - blues and folk music are notorious for stealing from each other, so my only point was to show how ridiculous it is for those same people to cry foul when others do it (albeit more successfully) to them. And I also think you're being a bit too harsh in general - music (as a whole) seems to really be about adaptation and reinterpretation of what you've heard. More intelligent and knowledgeable musicologists have pointed out clear instances of "borrowings," as we might call them, from Mozart in the works of Beethoven and others. That list goes on, of course, and refutes your point that "others weren't doing it"...actually, it's been done throughout the history of music by just about anyone. Hell, have you ever listened to anything where someone hasn't said "doesn't this sound like...?" Even if it isn't outright thievery, everyone has their influences and it shows...it all gets muddier when you deal with less rigid and more "folk" types of music, because just about everything has been recycled and reused, with attributions to this or that artist. A big part of the anger at your comments, as far as I'm able to see, was that you weren't including everyone else - including the blues and folksmen (and women) - in your cries of "Thief! Thief Baggins!" The whole "it's okay to copy" thing is itself muddy, though, from some sort of "moral" point-of-view...but it all seems like bull to me, really. Btw: Peter Green credited "Hellhound on My Trail," a song considered to be a Robert Johnson original (though not without its influences), as "Trad., arr. by P.A. Green" on the Fleetwood Mac debut in 1968.
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*Sigh* Here's the most poignant example I've ever been able to come up with why any argument against Page (et al.) is ridiculous: Muddy Waters "(I'm Your) Hoochie Coochie Man" >> Bo Diddley "I'm a Man" >> Muddy Waters "Mannish Boy." Now, look at every other damn blues or folk song - including all the many songs covered and "written" by Clapton, Beck, Hendrix, and whoever else - and tell me that they aren't all thieves.
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I think you just highlighted why that's quite unlikely, if not impossible, to happen.
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What The Famous Say About Led Zeppelin
Melcórë replied to SuperDave's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
That's cool. I always thought Zeppelin would have appealed (at least a little) to Lennon. And they surely did to Harrison a bit, too... -
First, I think I'd thank him - I'd thank him for catching my interest and keeping it all these years. The music of Led Zeppelin (and J.P. at large) has made me very happy throughout my (relatively) short life. Then...I suppose I'd ask him: "Would you change anything, or do it all over, given the chance?"