Nope, Norman Hale http://www.normanhale.com, was born 13 years earlier than Gareth Hale. December 10, 1975 St. Helier, Jersey Behan's Park West

October 16, 1999 New York, New York Irving Plaza

The four symbols were created as part of the fourth Untitled album, however the earliest any of them were shown on stage was at the November 11, 1971 Newcastle City Hall show. Presumably, Jimmy Page's Zoso symbol was on the Marshall straight cabinet on the same night but the earliest I could find a picture was 8 days later at London's Wembley Empire Pool show, on November 20, 1971. Whether Robert Plant's symbol appeared at the same time is a bit of a mystery, however here is a picture of it from May 27, 1972 at Amsterdam's Oude Rai. Who knows when it was ever used again? JPJ's symbol on the curtain in front of the Fender Rhodes piano disappeared after the 1972 Japan tour, John Bonham's symbol was retained through the 1975 Earls Court shows and Jimmy Page's Zoso symbol disappeared after the Knebworth warmup shows in Copenhagen on July 23-24, 1979.

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That was my ridiculously HORRIBLE Photoshop job. 99% of the time I'm better than that. I was just trying to take the led-zeppelin.com watermark off.

-George Maddocks, Club Lafayette manager http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/articles/InBetweenTimes/Page8d.htm First time = Feb 24, 1969 for Pat Bonham's birthday Second time = April 17, 1969???

Check the ads for the clubs in London. That's where Plant went to peddle his BOJ demos and ended up jamming with Korner and Steve Miller.

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Mr. Jones, Do you know the source and date of these? I think I originally read that they were out a fan's autograph book and I had dated them as being from September 15, 1968, however I don't know where I got that date from now. Any thoughts?

Funny how that Robert Plant singing, unaccompanied after an electric outtage has been attributed to both BOJ and various early Led Zep dates. *cough*Urban Legend*cough*

That was me who said "schoolmate". I think I was intending to use a different word but that came out.

Hey, Bes. Welcome to the forums!

From what I can gather, Robert Plant took the BOJ demos to London to try and get a record deal and by chance jammed a few times with Alexis Korner in London. The answer lies in London.

Same thing with The Band of Joy and Obs'Tweedle showed up Same thing with The Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin showed up History was doomed to repeat itself

No, that's Messrs Plant and du-Cille. I was just posting directly from the emails.

Taken at my wedding in September 1969. Robert was my best man and had just returned from the first USA tour. I spoke to Beresford "Bes" du-Cille via some email conversations. He was a schoolmate of Robert Plant and other members of The Band of Joy in the 1960s. This is what he had to say. *I actually went to school with Chris Brown (Band of Joy's keyboard player) I met Robert thru him, though I used to see RP passing the gas station where I had a part time job(I was still at school-about 1966). *I went with Rob to see The Way of Life to have a look at Bonham-he was awesome and drowned out the band he was so loud!! I have to say he was a serious boozer even then and he and RP were always arguing-JB did not drive and always needed a lift home to Dudley (5 miles)-RP who had an old Morris Minor would never take him and made him go by bus!!! *I was an occasional roadie for the band - I never drove so I humped gear-RP and Paul drove mainly a very old grey Light Delivery van.I used to give RP my old clothes-actually some of my newer ones as he was very persuasive!!! *Pop Brown -Chris' Dad-was BOJ's manager that sacked Rob (from the first BOJ). *When Rob was sacked from BOJ he formed another BOJ with a Band from Wolverhampton called THE PAPER (not the Paint as I have - read elsewhere AND pre Bonham,Gammond) RP encouraged them to paint their faces (he never did) and they used ordinary lipstick which after a weekend on skin was almost impossible to remove-one of the guys was a bank clerk and had to go to work like it!!! Cannot remember their names now but they were a nice bunch. I have a vague inkling that the original BOJ changed their name when RP left (The Good Egg?) *I remember meeting Dave Pegg to talk about joining BOJ but it came to nothing. *I may be wrong but I never remember Noddy Holder (Slade) being a roadie for BOJ (it was a LONG time ago.) *I last saw Rob when I supplied him with a tape of the BOJ's Demos for his 66 to Timbuktu cd. All the band had demo acetates but had lost or broken them!! I was the only person with a complete tape!! [Jeff edit: Bes' tape sounds EXACTLY like what is on the 66 To Timbuktu CDs] I went to his home in Shatterford (about 20 miles away) and had a meal and went out for a drink with Rob and Lyndon Laney (Laney amps). Laker as he is known lives a few hundred yards from RP and I was a good friend of his too when we were at Grammar School in West Bromwich. He also played bass with BOJ for a time and his first big commission for equipment was from TRAFFIC - he made it all at home at first. *As for the Hobstweedle setup that came about as far as I know when RP and the Band of Joy (RP,Bonham, Gammond,Lockey and Brown) split just before a gig at West Mids College of Education where I was training to be a teacher. Fellow students and I had lobbied the Entertainment Committee to book them (BOJ) and then to my dismay the split was sprung on us. However RP got some friends from Kidderminster Art College to fulfil the gig . They didn't go down too well with the students who were expecting The Band of Joy whose reputation had preceded them.Hobstweedle played heavy Blues. Unknown to me at the time, this was where Jimmy Page and Peter Grant came to check Rob out. *The Korner gigs I only ever heard about from Rob.

Do you think that those rehearsals might be the source of these pictures?

Steve, Page 116 of the 2005 Edition of Led Zeppelin: The Concert File says that on August 5, 1970 @ the Whisky A Go Go that "John Bonham allegedly attended the performance of Irish rock band Skid Row featuring Gary Moore at this LA Venue. They jammed on a version of 'Whole Lotta Love' and 'Got My Mojo Working'. The performance surfaced on a bootleg CD in 1999 titled 'Whole Lotta Love'." On the website http://www.chickenonaunicycle.com/Whisky-A-Go-Go%20History.htm it says that on August 5-9, 1970 the bands Rhinoceros and If performed and that on October 28-November 1, 1970, Skid Row and Pollution performed. The webmaster of this site assured me that through their records, Skid Row only performed one set of dates at the Whisky from 1966 through 1975, however their list only included advertised performers, not last minute changes or local bands. On the website http://home.c2i.net/gaz/tour/1970.htm it says that Skid Row was in a UK Universities tour in early August 1970 and http://www.marmalade-skies.co.uk/aug1970.htm says roughly the same thing. It also says that Skid Row was at Fillmore West in SF in November 1970. Now, if Zeppelin's 1970 US Tour ended on September 19th and by December 1970, the band started recording the untitled 4th album at Headley Grange, what was John Bonham doing in LA in November 1970? Wouldn't he have been at Old Hyde? Jethro Tull was playing the LA Forum on October 18, 1970 (Bore 'Em At The Forum??????) Perhaps he was there at the time. That's a stretch but the only thing the chickenonaunicycle.com webmaster could think of. Do you have any press pinpointing John Bonham in LA in October/November 1970 or August 5, 1970 as The Concert File and http://gary-moore.cool.ne.jp/english/discography/data/01b_skidrow.html say?

Here is a one-minute clip of Jimmy Page playing "Whole Lotta Love" at the New York Stock Exchange opening bell on May 11, 2005. Page was there in support of Warner Music Group. The clip is from CNN and was transmitted to affiliate stations via their Pathfire system. The lineage is CNN Pathfire>DVC Pro video tape>Discreet Edit 6.0 NLE>encoded to MPEG-2. The audio was captured off the DVC tape at 44khz. NLE would not upsample to 48khz, so the audio from the MPEG-2 was converted in TMPGEnc and then remuxed with the original video (avoiding any video recompression). Also included is a FLAC file derived from the original 44khz WAV file, so fans of uncompressed audio will have a clean copy. http://www.mediafire.com/file/y0n1ainnoyt/jp20050512.rar

Found this while surfing the web. The is the first lineup of the Band of Joy in 1967 with Vernon Pereira (bass), Pete Robinson (drums), Chris Brown (organ) and Mick Reeves (guitar).

I've always wondered the date and location of those rehearsals. I've found zero info on them.

Good luck on that. It's been through a few changes, uses and owners over the years. Even the main entrance from the street is a wall now and the building is now in the back of a shopping complex.

According to http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...ewsitemID=39863 (and apparently led-zeppelin.com) the date was a week earlier, on July 24, 2005.