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    Regarding the Led Zeppelin book that is going to be released in September or October (or whenever it is).......it is my sincere hope that the book contains more TEXT than photos. There have been a million and a half LZ photo books, including Page's book. What has been untold is the Led Zeppelin story in their own words. All we have been given over the years are mainly unauthorized bios with disgruntled former employees being used as the main source of info. The books are totally lacking in detail about the kinds of things that a Zeppelin maniac would want to know. How was "The Rain Song" written. Was there a concerted effort to make "Presence" an all-electric guitar album, or did it just turn our that way? Any specific reason why "Dancing Days" was put on "Houses Of The Holy" instead of the title track? Any additional info about the "secret" band rehearsals after Live Aid? I mean, there might be answers to these kind of questions, but I think Zep fans are more interested in Led Zep addressing them. The real fans are more interested in how the music was created. The crazy off stage stuff is so tired. I am also kind of surprised that LZ hasn't put out a "story of" DVD like The Beatles Anthology (with less discs, obviously). Then again, they may feel that this sort of thing might destroy the LZ mystique. As far as live recordings are concerned, I wish LZ would create a site like live.springsteen.net (http://live.brucespringsteen.net/). On this site fans can pay for a download (in a variety of formats) of current and classic soundboard concerts in their entirety. You can also order a Compact Disc if you wish. If Page has got some sort of really good live release like "How The West Was Won" that's fine and I will buy it, but a site like the Springsteen one allows a big time artist to release soundboard concerts in a more casual manner without having to worry about record companies (and their middle men), huge advertising, constant interviews, etc. Obviously, when it comes to the Compact Discs, a site like this gives you another advantage: you only manufacture them according to customer need. I realize that LZ has a ton of bootleg concert recordings, and many hard core LZ fans assume that everyone owns them. However, a lot of people don't, and a lot of people don't want to download them (along with viruses and malware) from storage sites. They would rather pay for them. It just seems to make more sense for LZ to put up a site like this than to release a bunch of stand alone CD's for record stores. I realize that Page had a lot of stuff stolen from his house in the 80's.....maybe he could track down the best source of what was stolen and use a recording studio to freshen up the recordings to make them better for "official" release. If LZ were to put out some official CD's for record stores, I wouldn't mind a "best of" CD for the 1980 tour of Europe, the 1977 tour of the States, the 1975 Earls Court shows, and the 1975 tour of the states. These areas of the band's career need to be addressed first before we see anything from the "Houses Of The Holy" tour or before.
  2. I think that Jimmy was in worse shape in 1977 than he was in 1979 or even 1980. I have listened to every Europe 1980 show, and none of them drop to the low points of some of the 1977 gigs when Jimmy had be carried to the limo. I felt Robert's vocals were much better in 1980 than 1977 as well. Don't get me wrong: I think Jimmy was in bad shape, and he desperately needed to clean up his act, but I think it could've been a better overall tour than the 1977 tour was. But I am just guessing.
  3. "Swan Song"

    Getting back to the track "Swan Song," I know parts of it were put into The Firm track "Midnight Moonlight," but people act sometimes as if "Swan Song" IS "Midnight Moonlight," when it's clearly not. If you listen to the songs back to back, there is a whole bunch of music on "Swan Song" that didn't get transferred over to "Midnight Moonlight." Once again, not including "Swan Song" on the PG companion disc is a travesty. There was more than enough room for it. I know Jimmy tried to stay away from things that have already been bootlegged. I can understand that, but when there is room on the CD, and you can finally get the song released with decent sound.....
  4. What will be the next Live Led Zeppelin DVD?

    I feel we are more likely to get audio. It might be cool to do a thing like Tom Petty did where he released a 4-CD package of live tunes spread over his entire career. That way Jimmy could pick the best of what he's got rather than focus on one show and spending a zillion hours trying to fix it. Of course, some of this depends on what Jimmy still has in his vaults after the infamous tape theft in the 1980's. One would hope that safeties were made of the live shows that were lost, but I kind of doubt it.
  5. Did They Paint Themselves Into A Corner?

    It would've been interesting to see what the 1980 tour list would have looked like. I doubt that we would've seen Moby Dick and Dazed and Confused re-enter the set. I think that era of the band was over. Starting with the 1979 Knebworth gigs, LZ was a different band. One of the reasons why I like watching those Knebworth gigs (despite the flaws, playing, weather or otherwise) is the variety of songs they played. They still didn't break out anything like a full version of The Rover or Hots On For Nowhere, but still, it was neat to see all those tunes played.
  6. I doubt this song was officially recorded for PG, but the rehearsal jam should've been included on the PG companion disc. I know Jimmy tried to stay away from items that have been bootlegged, but there was enough room on the disc to include this great little song that is considered the predecessor to "the Wanton Song."
  7. I am sure this topic has been covered before.......but all you need to do is go over to youtube.com and listen to a Zep song or bootleg concert, and some guy will have written a 33,000 word essay in the comments section about how Zep ripped off blues artists (and other songwriters) left and right and never gave them proper writing credits. It seems to be almost like some sort of movement, driven by people who are very jealous of Zep's popularity and immense influence. I'm not just talking about a few songs off of the first two records.....some of these people even dissect every verse on "In Through The Out Door." Never mind that the record is awash in keyboards and synths and is the furthest thing from delta blues or whatever. How does everyone feel about this when you are confronted with the accusations and are put into a position of defending the band we all love. This is not to say that we have to love everything they did. Artists make mistakes, and artists often acknowledge their mistakes. I suspect that some of these songs should've have included some co-writing credits. But I also don't feel when Robert sings "Shake 'Em All Down" during "Custard Pie" that Bukka White deserves compensation either. Songwriters refer to other songs all the time in their own songs.
  8. Clarksdale was better than some of the LZ albums, IMO. I still listen to it once per week. I went to two or three concerts after that, and I haven't gone to a big time concert since. It absolutely pissed me off when fans would head for the beer stands when they started an unbelievable song like "When The World Was Young." I felt they were disrespectful. I sat there looking at those meatheads and said to myself, "Do you realize what you folks are doing to the real fans. You're going to deprive us of ever seeing Jimmy and Robert playing electric music ever again. Because Robert has zero tolerance for nostalgia." And sure enough, it happened. O2 and that's it. It had NOTHING to do with the quality of the album. It's outstanding. Both Robert and Jimmy still like it. As good as "Physical Graffiti"? Of course not. But worthy of the attention span of people who were only there to hear "Stairway" even though real Zep fans knew it would never be played. I hate to sound negative, but I no longer go see rock concerts with older performers due to the way Robert and Page's new material was treated on the Clarksdale tour. I figured why should I? Just about every quality older artist is going to be treated just the same way. The place is going to be half filled with people talking on smartphones and who just want to be there because they can say they were there,
  9. That may be true live, but Jimi's last album (or what he thought would be his last album) "The First Rays Of the New Rising Sun" represented the most mature songwriting of his career, IMO. I have no idea how it would have translated live. Some of the tunes, of course, were played live, but the dang audience wanted Foxy Lady and for Jimi to hump his amps. I get the sense that Jimi may have gone several years without touring to get rid of any notion of him being an outlandish stage performer ever again. Them days were done as far as he was concerned.
  10. Thanks a bunch. No big revelations with that 1982 quote.
  11. "You" from the Ox as well. Great tune. Vicious bass playing. "Did You Steal My Money" is a silly song but one that many rock stars can relate to. The reference to being in a bear pit in "Cache Cache" is true. I guess Pete got so pissed and drugged one night that he passed out in a zoo. The remixed version of the CD is quite interesting because they cut way more tracks than they needed for the record. "I Like Nightmares" very much captures Pete's frame of mind at the time. Wait a minute, I guess we are on a Led Zeppelin fan forum...sorry Kind of a bad thing to do being that Pete T. hates Led Zeppelin (but likes the guys in the band). But he dislikes everything, so everyone gets the same treatment.
  12. Hard To Find Photos

    That's a good one. Thanks a bunch mate. Don't copy. Right!
  13. I understand that, but like many people, I hate the sound of bootlegs. I mean, if it's the only thing available, I will take it. But part of the reason why I was slightly disappointed with the LZ reissues is that I wanted to get a version of "Swan Song" on CD in high fidelity. There was enough room on the Graffiti companion disc for its inclusion. By the way, I love "The Quiet One" from The Who. Bless the Ox. That song was one of the greatest live songs ever by The Who. Townshend's solos were among his best ever when that track was played live. Even during the 1980/81 tours when Pete was wasted.
  14. No problem. I just find it a startling revelation given Page's extreme tendency towards privacy. I am sure other posters would be interested in the rest of the quote as well and what he was talking about.
  15. Last photo of Zeppelin all together (off stage)?

    It's funny....during this photo shoot the band changed clothes a few times (Bonzo, for example, changed into a long sleeve dress shirt) . There is also the famous shot where Robert pulled his pants down enough to slightly reveal, shall we say, his package. I would imagine he is not happy with the fact that the photo is circulating on the net.