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  1. Atlas

    This or That

    NYS. Jamaica or Belize?
  2. My Gods! YES HYE sat in a movie theater wondering how many people here are wonder how many people here are wondering how many people here are ...
  3. Atlas

    Beautiful Women

    Tasty, but a lot of airbrush.
  4. That's cool. I actually participate, rather indirectly, in a wale-tracing project for the Coast Guard. All I get to see are dusty servers in a lab.
  5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVqoCKNXZ4U&feature=related
  6. How 'bout Aaron Russo, the first guy to book Led Zeppelin in the States? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA Edit to add: he also produced this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIGPUBg8Ts8&feature=related
  7. What has this to do with 9/11? Were was Heinz?
  8. Hillary->Lady->Lay->vomit
  9. Don't let the facts get in the way of your imperialist agenda.
  10. It was transcribed to reflect exactly what was said. I figured that was safer than trying to correct grammar and run the risk of being accused of misquoting. Of course when we talk about Bremer, we have to remember who mentored him through his early career, and employed him from 1989 through 2000.
  11. No. Never heard of it HYE been to the Air and Space Museum in Chantilly VA?
  12. Seems to me that some of the answers are already plain to see. Just because you don't hear Wolfe Blitzer telling you the truth doesn't mean it isn't true. Speaking of 9/11/01 here's an interesting tidbit. http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-1952734561498548380&hl=en Google removed this three times, and blocked it once For reasons yet to be explained, Google has repeatedly removed this video from their server. In the first week that it was up, it had 1,474 views before it was removed. It caught fire recently and received about 5000 hits in a matter of a few days before it was taken down again. The evident pattern is that it is not removed as long as it is getting little attention. This is a mind-boggling interview with Lewis Paul Bremer III (who ended up as the pro-council of Iraq.) On 09/11/01 Bremer was the Chairman and CEO of Marsh Political Risk Practice which had offices in the WTC as did its parent company Marsh USA. They had a total of 1,700 employees assigned to the WTC. Bremer, himself, had an office in the South Tower. Nonetheless, this "counter-terrorism expert" makes no mention of any of this only three hours after the first plane flew directly into seven of the eight floors of WTC 1 occupied by Marsh USA. He is here on television prognosticating about who will turn out to be the culprits, with calm detachment. What is wrong with this picture? The opinions of Emad Salem and Andreas Strassmeir would be of interest in this matter. Full Transcript Lewis Paul Bremer: Nat'l Commission on Terrorism Gentzler: "We want to turn now to a guest who is joining us in the studio. It's Paul Bremer. I want to make sure I'm getting your name right because I'm just meeting you. You're a terrorism expert?" Bremer: "Counter-terrorism, I hope." Gentzler:"And can talk to us a little bit about who could...I mean there are a limited number of groups who could be responsible for something of this magnitude. Right?" Bremer: "Yes, this is a very well planned, very well coordinated attack, which suggests it's very well organized centrally. And there are only three or four candidates in the world really who could have conducted this attack." Vance:"Bin Laden comes to mind right away, Mr. Bremer." Bremer: "Indeed, he certainly does. Bin Laden was involved in the first attack on the World Trade Center, which had as its intentions doing exactly what happened here, which was to collapse both towers. He certainly has to be a prime suspect. But there are others in the Middle East. There are at least two states, Iran and Iraq which should least remain on the list of." Gentzler:"What kind of coordination? How could something like this be put together." Bremer:"First of all, you've got to find some people who are willing to die. And then, of course, they have to find ways around what we thought was pretty good security at our airports. We haven't had a hijacking in a long time. Let alone four. So there had to be good coordination. There has to have been coordination in the whole planning of the attack. The people, if they were not Americans, they needed visas to get into the United States. They needed false identities to by Airline tickets. They needed cars to get to the Airport. There's a whole lot of stuff that had to happen here." Gentzler:"With as many resources as our government, and our allies' governments around the world devote to studying terrorism, and knowing what's going on, and what they're planning, you have to wonder how something of this magnitude, how this could take place without any warning or any hint that it was coming." Bremer:"Well, first of all, the intelligence against terrorists is the hardest intelligence to gather. Basically, you have to have a spy in the terrorist group who's willing to talk to you, for whatever reason. It's the hardest intelligence there is to... The National Commission on Terrorism which I chaired last year, made as our key recommendation much more effort to try to get terrorist spies, informing on their colleagues to us." "Every time there is a major terrorist attack, it is automatically, of course, an intelligence failure. That's by definition. But I'm sympathetic to the problem about how you get good intelligence on these people. It's not easy. There is an intelligence failure here. There is a massive security failure, where we have four airplanes being hijacked on the same morning. Two from Dulles Airport it appears. So there's a lot of lessons that have to be learned. First we have to find out who did it." Vance:"Mr. Bremer, I want to speak to that for a second. When the Oklahoma City incident occurred, the immediate response from a lot of people was that it came from some Arab terrorist group. Is there any reasons why we aught to be cautious about that kind of an assumption on this particular incident, on these incidents?" Bremer:"Well, of course. What you have to work with at this stage, since we don't have any hard intelligence, apparently, we don't have any forensic evidence, is motivations and capabilities. And so when I list four potential groups I'm working mostly from motivations and proven capabilities in the past. [That] doesn't mean you can exclude that some other group could have come out of nowhere and done this. But, at least as a working hypothesis in the first chaotic hours here after this attack, you have to start somewhere. And you have to start with what you know about the past and which groups have motives." Vance:"One of the things that the President said today from Florida, early on, was that the United States will respond to this, and he left it at that. Is it to be assumed that the first thing we have to figure out is to identify precisely who it is we're going to respond against?" Bremer:"Of course. Basically we has sort of a four stage operation. First we've got to hope and help we can save as many people ... as possible. Stabilize the situation at the Pentagon and in New York. Secondly we need to get to work in trying to identify the perpetrators. And then, thirdly, we come to the question about retaliation. And fourthly, which goes along, all along, at the same time is what are the lessons we learned? What did we learn about the intelligence failure? What did we learn about the security failure? And who do we move forward in the future on these areas." Vance:"I don't recall anything like this. Pearl Harbor happened a month before I was born, and I hear my parents talk about it all the time as a seminal event in their lives all the time. I am not aware of anything like this in the United States before. Americans are now, I think it's fair to say, really scared. Should we be?" Gentzler:"This is a day that will change our lives, isn't it?" Bremer:"It is a day that will change our lives. It's a day that the war that the terrorists declared on the United States, and after all they did declare a way on us, has been brought home to the United States in a much more dramatic way than we've seen before. So it will change our lives." "I do think it's important, and I'm sure the President and his colleagues when they start talking about this, it's important to hit some ballance. The American way of life is not threatened by these people, unless we threaten it ourselves. If we start throwing away the democratic freedoms and the civil liberties that are at the heart of our society, that's what their after. And that's what we can't allow to have happen. And we've got to go about our business. People have got to move around." "I was diverted on a plane this morning. I was trying to get to New York, and wound up in Baltimore. I in a way was sort of at least relieved to see business as usual going on between people. We have to go on with our lives. It's not to say we don't take it seriously. We take it very seriously. But it's not something where we can all jump in a foxhole somewhere and hope the world doesn't come and bother us. We have to find a ballanced response. One that makes it absolutely clear, as the President said this morning, that we're not going to tolerate this act of war. This will have consequences for the people who did it. Very, I hope very severe consequences. The most sever military response we can come up with. But we also have to remember that we've got a way of life to protect, and that this is not an existential threat to the United States." Gentzler:"Paul Bremer, thank you." Vance: "We appreciate it, Mr. Bremer, thank you very much." Gentzler:"We should make it clear that there has been no claim of responsibility ... "Bremer:"I understand." Gentzler:"...at this point to, uh, for any of these incidents."
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