You are removed. I have someone else there in your place.

What do you mean? What happened to bring you to that point? If you would rather not say I understand but Im curious.

I cant believe you two live so close. As for you Swede, its been 40 years and people still care so why not in100? And you cant take us seriously? I guess you are another self proclaimed expert on music like several others here? Rolling Stone magazine was once respected back in the day. In the 1970's or 80's, forget exactly when, they said Stairway to Heaven will be listened to 100 years from now. Iron Man>? I dont know. I like Sabbath alot. I like Ozzie and the Blizzard of Oz album was better than any Sabbath album. Crazy Traiin and Mr Crowley to me are better than any Sabbath, Iron Man being the classic. But if you can sit there and think they are even iin the same league as Zeppelin, someone did a lousy job of teaching you about music. I am sure you can play the guitar well as many others here can, but anyone with an ounce of common sense knows Zeppelin are much bigger and a far better band than Sabbath or ACDC or any other hard rock band you can throw my way. If the meadowlands were selling tickets to Black Sabbath next week, with Ozzie, and the next night was a Led Zeppelin reunion, which one do you think would sell faster and in fact sell out? Wake up Swede!!! Ahd Ady!!! Zeppelin is better. If you dont think so, maybe you can find a Black Sabbath forum? I wonder if one exists? Doubt they have a following like Zeppelin does. And Ozzie, Ha. What a piece of work. His wife is more popular than he is right now. Sharon.

LOL??? This is a Led zeppelin site so no need to put down Page and the group now is there? Many on this site believe they are the best band ever. Your bold letter sarcastic post was not necessary.

Its worship because I stated the obvious that Led zeppelin is a far better band than Black Sabbath? When did you pm me? There is a certain one individual that is always over agressive with me. I have my friends here and you can have yours. You couldnt answer the simple question could you Mr expert? Thats it. Im done talking to you. Have a nice day.

Define the casual listener with an untrained ear? Do you mean someone that does not play an instrument and know how to read or write music?

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You can tell by my opinions how well I can play and all? That is a bunch of nonsense. I took theory and have played for 30 years and played piano before though I no longer have one. Dont sit there and judge me. You have no clue what you are talking about. Chowder is right on the money. And what does Benson have to do with this discussion Electro ? Any true guitar player knows that Led Zeppelin's material is far more sophisticated than that of Sabbath or ACDC for that matter. You carry on like you are some kind of rock star. Your perception is way off base. You asked me about Paranoid. Ha. Real tough to play that isnt it? You think that Benson plays the guitar better than Page? Why dont you go join a Black Sabbath board or try and find a Benson board.

I am not saying you did not play. But I highly doubt you were at the level of playing material at that point. So why not just say you started then. Just forget it. You lay off of me and I will lay off of you from here on out. I am crashing so if you have more, save it.

I am not sick. You are always trying to put me down and "police me" to a degree. I am leaving this thread now so enjoy. I have other matters that are more important. And I was here earlier trying to discuss this topic until this Danelectro turned it nasty. I am really surprised you are putting down Led zeppelin to a degree. Using a few of their lyrics to desparage them or make them look simple which they are not. Not all of their lyrics are summed up by your examples. Why dont you go pick on somebody in the Pink Floyd forum. I have heard you are pretty well known there.

According to your profile you are 41. So in the mid seventies you would have been about 6 years old. But playing Zepp and Sabbath. You are full of BS. Nice try, you hung yourself on that one. As for you Liz, you just have to follow my posts and try and get me going dont you?

And I am supposed to believe yours is? With your garbage about Sabbath. You dont own this board so I wont go away because a self proclaimed expert like you tells me to. You can play their music in your sleep? Quite a bragger aren't we. Stick it where the sun dont shine punk While we are at it. I dont suppose you would reveal if you are in the States or UK? I saw your profile so at least I believe you play. But to say I cant play with nothing to base it on is quite insulting. But that is what you are best at. You and your girlfriend Electro

The lyrics are one thing. The music was very very sophisticated and very complicated and far far more difficult to play than what came from Black Sabbath. You are the one that is full of rubbish,.

My daughter posted the other night that she was going to REO. She is in Hobaken and works in Manhattan so I assume they must have played either the Meadowlands or somewhere near. I saw them once way way back. You could not pay me to go see them now.

You are entitled to your opinion as am I. And mine is Black Sabbath is not in the same league as Led Zeppelin and most would agree.

I dont mean it literally for Gods sake. You simply must do anything you can to jump on me. I was expecting Jethro to come at me. Instead, its you. What a surprise.

Ha. Thats a good one. This old doggie is lookin with rose colored glasses? At Page and Richards? Put the crack pipe away. Are you saying Iommi is in the same league as Page? Why did you quote the part of worshipping Zeppelin and the Stones? This is a Led Zeppelin site. And Led Zeppelin is and always was far better than Black Sabbath and Jimmy Page can play circles around Iommi.

You have it all wrong. Chowder brought up the band Tull. 'And Chowder is not Joel. Take my word for it. And you know Im not and if you think I am go ask the mods. You are always way off. What is your problem? You always accuse people of being who they are not. That is why I had to take you off ignore to read your silly post

Just dont put any sage in it. And I am not like Jethro. Man.

Now wait just a damn minute!!! I worship the following. Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, The Who, Beatles, Pink Floyd and Eagles. Where are you getting Tull? Sure I like Tull. But not like the ones I mentioned above. If you are going to paint me with a fast brush, do it right. /And to that wild and crazy chicky, Ill take the cake, got enough of the other. And Iommi cant touch Keith Richards for overall riff writing. Cant touch him. And Page makes him look silly.

Its near Vancouver. I now have an account with racelinebet.com. Linked to Twiin Sprires. Just took out my first withdrawal. Have a check on the table for $200 from a double I hit at Woodbine. You get to watch any track for free and get the track payout. Easiest way to make a deposit is with a green dot card you can buy at a drug store.

Come on now. I like Sabbath. But better than Richards or Page? Come one now.

Well Ill be short and mention a couple of things Nathan brought up. Warp drives are interesting conept. I believe that is the concept of building a craft that would use Sir Isaac Newtons law to attain speeds unimaginable by normal means. A type of increasing momentum buildup with nothing to slow it. But a strike with an asteroid could easiley ruin it. But it could not be manned Im sure. A manned spacecraft would have to have volunteers willing to never return and reproduce on the ship. The closest star you mentioned I have been told could be reached in 40 years if and only if we could travel at a speed of half the speed of light. I agree something has to be out there. Its just too far and they are bound to the same rules of physics that we are regardless of how advanced they may be. I do not agree that the beginning is totally explainable by scientific means. You cannot get something out of nothing. You can take your gas's and dust particals and all that starting out a chain of events leading to all of this, but you still must explain how you get something out of an empty void. It cant be done at this point. If we can exist, and be intelligent, so can a God. And he could chose his own reasons whether to interfere or not in events on this planet. Your points are all good ones and I too have studies Astronomy in college. So I do have some knowledge of it and much is from Seeds. An author of one of the best books on astronomy. I was fortunate to take the course during the run of the comet named after the amatuer Japanese astronomer who first saw it. I was able to see it with binoculars quite well. .

Just made my first ever bet on a horse at Hastings. Feature race in the slop and took the word of an analyst on the 2 horse. Fingers crossed. But just went real light.

I think I would prefer the word unlikely than impossible as to their existence. But you are basing your conclusions on numbers and I would certainly classify you as an agnostic over an atheist based on your past posts on Judaism. Your parents would probably not like the idea of you expressing yourself as an atheist being from a Jewish raising I would guess? Whether they are orthodox or conservative. I do not rule out anything that is out there. Alien life and I do indeed believe in God. But unlike you, believe that Jesus is indeed the son of God. But that aside, its probably going to be difficult to live to see proof of life out there due to time and distance. And just how far away things are. If there were intelligent life in striking distance, within a few galaxies in distance, dont you think we would have already heard from them? I do. And they may just be too far away. Perhaps they have a signal traveling out there, maybe on its way to us? God, I sure hope the first thing they hear from us is not I Love Lucy.