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11 hours ago, confounded_bridge said:
I thought that the tape was not circulating at all. At least, if it circulates among the elite of fans, there is a lot of hope it will leak one day. Your post made my day!
As far as I know, it does/did circulate amongst a very elite group of collectors. I think Nutrocker is probably the guy to ask for more details on that.
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5 hours ago, TangerineDreamer said:
All I know is I saw LZ 3/1/77 in Baton Rouge, La and thought it was absolutely fantastic. Never seen anything like it before or since. C’mon! It’s Led Zeppelin! What’s not to like?
Wow...please tell us everything you can remember since there's no (widely) circulating tape of it!!
P.S. You mean 5/19/77, right?
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Any reason you didn't mention Heartbreaker in your review?
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On 7/23/2018 at 9:36 AM, LedElvis75 said:
Bonzo's SO INCREDIBLY GOOD it masks a lot of the other issues with the show. One of his all time great shows. He literally NAILS EVERYTHING. He accuracy, speed and energy were just amazing.
Agree 100%! His explosion after the usual big fill towards the end of "The Song Remains The Same" just gets me every time 😵
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On 7/23/2018 at 5:55 AM, gibsonfan159 said:
I'm halfway through Stoke, but I'll get it after that. Providence might be a tough listen for the casual fan though.
Ok, sweet! I don't think it's any worse than Philly '75...
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^ I agree with you final assessment. I tried to really pay close attention when I was listening to it on Tuesday, and I reached a similar conclusion: not spotless enough all the way through to be on par with, say June 3 L.A. and July 21 Providence for best show of the tour, but it's certainly in the upper-echelon of '73 shows, and has some tremendous peaks. As I'm typing that, I realize that it has a lot in common with 6/23/77!
As far as Dazed from this show goes, it's always been one of my favourites as well. During the outro, Bonham sort of teases the stop-start rhythm he does on March 21 in Hamburg, but never fully commits to it, instead basically doing dotted 8th notes on the snare. I find what he does on this outro much harder to imitate than the full stop-start stuff he does in Hamburg.
P.S. Can you please do 7/21 Providence next?
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July 21, 1973 - Providence, RI -- Probably my favourite show of '73. Obviously a soundboard would be amazing, but the sound quality isn't even that bad, especially after the taper moves to a different location during "The Song Remains The Same". The bigger issue with the tape, to me, is the cuts (small one in "The Rain Song," much larger ones in "Dazed And Confused," "Moby Dick" & "Whole Lotta Love").
Basically every song is a highlight, but the song of the night is "No Quarter" in my opinion. Easily one of the best versions, and my personal favourite of the shorter ones.
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5 hours ago, AchillesLastBand said:
To my ears, the show really starts cooking with Misty Mountain Hop (Robert is getting warmed up). Jones is great on No Quarter, and The Song Remains The Same may be even better than the one on the album of the same name. Haven't listened before, on Rain Song now. Overall, Bonzo sounds more enlivened than on the album.
This is a "matrix" show (blending of soundboard and audience recording together simultaneously), so it really does have a nice warmth as well as clarity. Especially after the first few songs, when their sound guy finds the right mix. Kudos to whoever made this. A great alternative listen for TSRTS-era live Zeppelin.
ALB
One of the best '73 shows! You're in for a treat with the rest of the show too! And I'd agree with you, first 3-4 songs are a bit slow, but after that, it's killer.
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Pretty sure it's from 8/21/71 LA--at some point in the acoustic set, someone near the taper says to some other guy "I'm not sure I want you behind me" 😂
Also, I'm pretty sure this is from 9/19/70 NY (Evening) right after "Heartbreaker," some girl near the taper yells "AM I STEPPING ON YOUR FOOT?!!?!"
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On 7/9/2018 at 3:55 PM, Zumbi said:
First post on this forum!
Right now I am listening to the new How The West Was Won reissue, I am listening to it on the audio DVD that came with the super deluxe box set. And now the song Dazed And Confused is playing!Welcome! And as Ocean73 said, good choice!
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Ahh, finally the listening eases up! Got through 6/27/72 Long Beach & 6/27/77 Los Angeles today. Observations:
6/27/72:
- 'Dazed' from this show is really good! Must've been a tough call for Jimmy as far as which version to go with for HTWWW between this and 6/25
6/27/77:
- One of the best NQ's ever, and one of the best climaxes of the jam section
- Never noticed how good Jimmy's first solo in 'Achilles' is
- Overall an unfairly maligned show amongst the LA '77 run; sure, it may not be as tight in spots, but, similar to the other epic tour-closer-type show in LA (3/27/75), it has a really unique vibe that IMO keeps it from dragging, despite its length
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20 hours ago, Daeron said:
According to Led Zeppelin Database the following shows have mellotron solos:
10/5/72 (Nagoya), 11/30/72 (Newcastle-upon-Tyne), 12/12/72 (Cardiff), 12/22/72 (London), 1/22/73 (Southhampton).
It lists both the 6/3 and 7/29 versions of "Thank You" as having organ solos. I was just curious though. Being random.
Ahh, interesting; thanks for checking--love that site!
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8 hours ago, Daeron said:
I don't know why but that mellotron solo reminded me of the Beatles. Any idea why Jones starting playing mellotron solos instead of organ solos?
Well, he hardly ever soloed with the mellotron--aren't this, 6/3/73 LA & 7/29/73 NY the only times "Thank You" was played after his switch to the mellotron from the Hammond, thus the only times he had a mellotron solo?
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On 6/25/2018 at 8:14 PM, gibsonfan159 said:
Yes. I don't think 6/22 is as good overall as people say it is, and the last two shows are kinda blah.
I'd have to disagree with you there. I think 6/22 is the best top-to-bottom show of '77, with 6/21 close behind. If any of the LA shows are overrated, I'd say it's 6/23--it certainly has very epic peaks (NQ, Stairway), but they're interspersed with more mediocre moments, such as maybe the weakest acoustic set of the LA run and the screw-up in Kashmir. I mean, it has a great, playful vibe to it, but I'd take the superior tightness of 6/21 & 6/22 if I had to choose.
And I wouldn't call the last two blah--to me, blah would be just totally middle-of-the-road, paint-by-numbers, with nothing notable to recommend it. I would give this 'honour' to 6/7 of all the June '77 shows. 6/26 is great and tight all the way through IMO, highlighted by an excellent NQ (and a unique one, given that Jones goes back to the electric during Page's solo, like on 3/25/75), a great acoustic set, one of the best Noise Solos, one of the best and longest Stairway's, and the great and rare encore of It'll Be Me. 6/27, I'll admit, is the weakest of the LA run, but its NQ & acoustic set alone prevent it from being "blah" IMO.
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10 hours ago, Remi said:
and the intro of Over the top... !!!
Plant's introduction or the "Out On The Tiles" riff intro? Either way, both are great! I actually noticed some really cool stuff Bonham does during the intro for the first time today; haven't heard him do it on any other versions.
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6 hours ago, John M said:
41 Years Gone. Most exciting OTHAFA solo ever. Jimmy blasts off and extends it into outer space further than any other version I've heard.
Oh yeah!! My personal favourite '77 show!
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With respect to all of the mentions TSRTS version is getting, in my opinion, it should be disqualified due to the severity of the editing on that particular track. It's not like TSRTS Dazed or NQ, where the vast majority of the track comes from one of the three nights; TSRTS SIBLY is probably the go-to example of a 'Frankenstein' version of a live song.
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June 21, 1977 - Los Angeles -- The only thing thou shalt listen to on June 21!
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June 19, 1972 - Seattle -- One of their very best shows ever--I'd say it's in the top 5, along with 9/19/70 (Evening), 9/29/71, and some other two. Features the debuts of "The Ocean" (only time it wasn't an encore song), "Black Country Woman" (the only full-length live performance of it, and the only non-'77 performance), "Dancing Days" (twice) and "Over The Hills And Far Away" (only time as an encore). Jones' organ solo includes "Amazing Grace" and "Everyday People," before the rest of the band join in for "Louie Louie" and "Let's Dance," then finally into "Thank You".
The three epics are all long and great, even with the cuts in the tape during each; "Dazed And Confused" (28 min, maybe 1-2 min cut) features some really unique bits that I haven't heard in other versions, "Moby Dick" (20 min, could be as much as 5+ min cut, who knows) is excellent, and "Whole Lotta Love" (26.5 min, probably 2.5 min cut) features what I'm pretty sure is the only time they covered "Only The Lonely," as well as the occasionally played "Heartbreak Hotel," in addition to the usual suspects for the U.S. '72 medleys. The short songs are all performed fantastically as well. One of the best acoustic sets of all time as well, right up there with 9/29/71 & 6/27/77.
For those who don't have it, setlist:
1. Immigrant Song
2. Heartbreaker
3. Black Dog
4. The Ocean*
5. Since I've Been Loving You
6. Stairway To Heaven
7. Going To California
8. Black Country Woman*
9. That's The Way
10. Tangerine
11. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
12. Dazed And Confused
13. What Is And What Should Never Be
14. Dancing Days*
15. Moby Dick
16. Whole Lotta Love (incl. Boogie Chillen, Let's Have A Party, Hello Mary Lou, Only The Lonely, Heartbreak Hotel & Goin' Down Slow)
17. Rock And Roll
18. Organ Solo (incl. Amazing Grace, Everyday People, Louie Louie & Let's Dance)
19. Thank You
20. Money (That's What I Want)
21. Over The Hills And Far Away*
22. Dancing Days
* = live debut
Setlist: 10/10
Performance: 10/10
Sound Quality: 5/10 (am I being too generous?)
It's a terrible shame that this is the only recording we have of such an unbelievable, all-time great show. I wouldn't usually bother with sound quality like this, but this performance is way too good to let sound quality stand in the way.
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June 13, 1977 - New York -- Has always been one of my favourites. Easily on par with the very best of the tour, IMO...
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5 hours ago, bluecongo said:
I request Ft Worth 77 review
I second that. And the Cleveland, Pontiac, Birmingham & New York shows...
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58 minutes ago, IpMan said:
At least that is a happy turd which is much better than a sad turd.
Because Tempe "Achilles" is such a turd, you can't help but laugh...
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5 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:
This is always the right choice!
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5 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:
Another excellent review. I agree that this show is nowhere near the LA shows, but I don't think it's quite as bad as many make it out to be. Jimmy's erratic yes. Plant is hoarse yes. But Bonham's on fire and Jones (vocals notwithstanding) is solid as usual. And there are some good highlights like NQ, TYG, the acoustic set, and STH. I prefer the audience recordings for this cause they mask a lot of the flaws and the gig actually comes across as being pretty good. What do you plan on doing next? Tempe perhaps?
I can review Tempe for you: 💩
How The West Was Won Vs The Song Remains The Same OST
in Led Zeppelin Live
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Totally agree.
P.S. The bass and toms are the only variable, as he used the same snare (Ludwig LM402) across all of his kit changes.