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  1. My thoughts exactly. I did listen to the Berlin "Whole Lotta Love" because I've always liked it for the uniqueness anyway, but that's about all I bother with from that show. I listen to the Frankfurt show once a year for its anniversary because I happen to have it in my iTunes library, but that's the extent of my 1980 listening. The 50th anniversaries of various 1970 shows and other happenings are certainly more fun to celebrate. As for the tour stuff, I agree. As someone born in 1995, of course I would jump at the chance to go see them no matter what state they were in if they decided to do something, but it wouldn't be the real "them" without Bonzo, and they are acutely aware of that. Besides, Jimmy was right a few years ago when he said (paraphrasing) that if it was going to happen, it would stand to reason that it would have been shortly after the 2007 show, so as to strike while the iron was hot. The gap from that 2007 show to the present is now by far the longest period of inactivity at almost 13 years (if you count the 1998 Page & Plant tour as "Zeppelin activity"). Even if you don't, there was a 12-year gap between their Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction in 1995 and the 2007 show, so there's already been a longer gap than that. They were 63, 61 and 59 at the 2007 show. Even if the virus clears up on the most optimistic timeline and they could tour next summer, they'd be 77, 75 and almost 73, not to mention that Jason would be 55. I'm sure he could handle it, but John never had to play this stuff beyond 32 -- it's not easy material to play to the level that they and their fans expect, unlike the Stones (who I also love and am happy to have seen five times even at this late stage of their career). Five years ago I thought there was a decent, if unlikely chance. Now I think there is no chance, but I'm at peace with that as I think it is the right decision for their legacy and shows the love and respect that they continue to have for Bonzo.
  2. ^Very interesting stuff, thanks guys! I had wondered this for some time as well, but always forgot to ask.
  3. Listened to the two Chicago '73 shows for the first time yesterday and today...those July 7 tapers might be the funniest I've heard -- their pre-encore banter alone is worth the price of admission 😂
  4. I've been making good use of the down time binging on concerts as well...I've listened to 135 since April 24 between Zepp, Dead, Stones, Doors and Phish lol.
  5. Just to clarify as there seems to be a bit of confusion about the original question, the options are: June 7 and June 21, or; June 8 and June 22, or; June 10 and June 23, or; June 11 and June 25, or; June 13 and June 26, or; June 14 and June 27. So far 10th/23rd is in the lead with three votes, while 7th/21st and 13th/26th have one each. All others were spoiled ballots lol.
  6. I'm noticing that lol. Fair choice for sure. I agree about the 7th.
  7. I expected the third nights to be a popular choice. June 23 certainly sounds like it would have been a fun one to attend -- Moon's presence doesn't really add anything musically, but I can appreciate how cool it would have been in person, and yes, the historical significance is worth noting. I agree that the first nights are the way to go if it's listening to the existing recordings.
  8. All-time favourite eh? I do have a soft spot for it, and like it better than most do I think. "No Quarter" is fantastic, as is the acoustic set.
  9. Right. I hear ya...those middle two Landover ones are definitely a tough listen. I like Seattle '73 for the 30+ minute versions.
  10. That Seattle sample sounds fantastic!
  11. Added this to the OP but will say it down here as well: for argument's sake let's assume that we have all 12 shows complete and in the same excellent sound quality -- 12 soundboards, 12 Millard's, 12 multi-tracks...whichever is easier for you to imagine. I realize that the current sound quality (June 8) or completeness (June 14) can make it hard to judge, though...
  12. Fair enough...I can only imagine what an endurance test attending those shows would have been -- on the bladder at the very least! I'm always a bit surprised actually by how short the June 21 version is, considering it's one of Bonham's all-time best shows -- on previous tours, the nights when he was really feeling it usually got a long, epic "Moby Dick." Isn't the June 27 one fairly short? I seem to recall it being somewhere around 14 minutes, but an entertaining 14. Funny you should mention that about the section after the tympani, because when I was listening to June 25 yesterday, I noticed that he jumps straight to the end after the tympani, despite it clocking in at just under 27 minutes! I had it in my head that he did the section after because of the length like you say...
  13. Interesting. I didn't expect there to be many takers for that combo, although your remaster of June 7 definitely helped me to see it in a different light. That opening explosion of the June 21 show may well be the greatest start to a concert by anybody, ever.
  14. I've been thinking of a bit of a goofy hypothetical as I've been listening this week: if the New York and Los Angeles runs were divided into pairs comprised of the first night of each, second night of each and so on and you could only pick one, which pair would you choose? I think I would have to go with the fifth night of each because to me, the gap between June 13 and the other New York shows is much bigger than the separation between the Top 4 Los Angeles shows. A better recording of June 8 would make it a tougher call since June 22 is my favourite show of the year, but for now I'm going with the two penultimate shows. Also, for argument's sake let's assume that we have all 12 shows complete and in the same excellent sound quality -- 12 soundboards, 12 Millard's, 12 multi-tracks...whichever is easier for you to imagine. I realize that the current sound quality (June 8) or completeness (June 14) can make it hard to judge, though...
  15. I'm listening to this show right now as well. I was wondering if @Strider can recall anything about "Over The Top" from this show since it's the only sizeable chunk missing from any of the six nights. Was it a marathon version like the previous night? They were certainly in a "long" mood this show, as it features the second-longest "Noise Solo," third-longest "No Quarter" and third-longest "Stairway To Heaven." The version I have clocks in at 3h 12m, so a decent-lengthen "Over The Top" would make this the second longest show of the week even though it has the shortest encore and is the only show of the six without a pre-encore extra, "That's Alright Mama" tease notwithstanding.
  16. Absolutely right. I'm personally quite fond of 3/27/75, but yes, length is not synonymous with quality, for individual songs or entire shows. Speaking of 3/27/75 and length, it holds the crown of average length per song by a significant margin. They only played 15 songs that night, compared to 17 on 3/21/75, 20 on 5/25/75, 21 on 6/27/77 and 24 on 6/19/72.
  17. 3/21/75 and 3/27/75 are both 3:42 and change, minus crowd noise between encores. I was paying close attention to it when I was listening three months ago lol.
  18. Oh, true. I was thinking of it as a multitrack because I've only ever really watched/listened to the portion on the DVD.
  19. Yeah, the last third of the Kezar '73 is the only outdoor soundboard I can think of other than Texas Pop.
  20. Indeed. That list seems a bit odd though -- I take it they've cut out every second of between-song banter and such, but how does that shave 40 minutes off of May 25, 1975, yet only 23 minutes or so off of March 27? I suppose 20 songs as opposed to 15 could make that much of a difference, but that seems nuts... It also tells me that Seattle '72 is likely in the bottom half of the Top 10 in actuality since there's a good 10, maybe 15 minutes cut.
  21. June 22, 1977 - Los Angeles -- My personal favourite '77 show. You know it's a good one when the biggest mistake is Plant singing a verse out of order in the second half of an especially thunderous "Kashmir"... - Close to, if not all-time best versions of IMTOD, OTHAFA, Noise Solo, Achilles - Crushing opening 1-2-3 punch just like the previous night - Great, raw SIBLY - Longest NQ of all time at 34 minutes! - Very good acoustic set -- Plant sounds great on GTC! - One of the best '77 drum solos -- very thunderous - Great and unique Stairway with Plant not singing some variation of "Does anybody remember laughter?" and Page skipping the extra bar on the 12-string and jumping straight into the (awesome) solo
  22. I've wondered this too. They really should hire an archivist like the Dead have so that there's at least someone with more of a fan's perspective who has a seat at the table as it were. Perhaps whoever gets the keys to the vault after Page is gone will have a different approach to what's deemed release-worthy.
  23. Fair. Really eh? I had no idea turntables ran that expensive actually. I'm sure mine wasn't that much lmao. I have noticed that about the speakers, yes. I find the car speakers are the best, but we lucked out and got a Fender sound system in there that's a lot bigger than most car systems because it came with the technology package, which I convinced my mom she needed for the GPS 😈
  24. You're right that the same boot can sound noticeably different depending on the hardware you're listening with, but I think general assessments of sound quality are pretty fair. I could play LTTE or Blueberry Hill through my phone's speaker and it would still sound significantly better than something like Seattle '72 through car speakers or a really good stereo. As for the vinyl debate, I notice a difference, but I have no idea what my setup cost because it was a Christmas gift, so I'm not sure where it would fall on your spectrum. I would say CDs are closer to vinyl than they are to mp3, but vinyl is still superior.
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