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Curbishley content to take seat backstage
Charlton manager says his experience in the music business has helped him make bookmakers' charts in race to succeed Keegan
The Brian Viner interview
Wednesday, 11 October 2000
During a dinner last season at The Valley, home of Charlton Athletic, the guest of honour gave an eloquent and warmly received speech in which he predicted that the Charlton manager, Alan Curbishley, would one day become manager of England. That guest of honour was Kevin Keegan, whose unexpected resignation on Saturday has indeed propelled Curbishley into the minds of Messrs Ladbroke and Hill, and probably Davies and Crozier too.
During a dinner last season at The Valley, home of Charlton Athletic, the guest of honour gave an eloquent and warmly received speech in which he predicted that the Charlton manager, Alan Curbishley, would one day become manager of England. That guest of honour was Kevin Keegan, whose unexpected resignation on Saturday has indeed propelled Curbishley into the minds of Messrs Ladbroke and Hill, and probably Davies and Crozier too.
"I think I've been quoted at 14-1," says Curbishley, with a smile. "It reminds me of when I was at West Ham as a first-year pro, and Ron Greenwood was 7-1 for the England job. He came back and let some of the boys know that he had got through to the final shortlist. One or two of the senior players had a decent-sized bet." Which begs an obvious question, met with another smile. "No, I won't be telling my lads to have a bet. One of them told me this morning that I'm between a Frenchman and an Italian. I didn't bother asking who they were."
Curbishley echoes widespread criticism of the Football Association when he adds: "There should be somebody already lined up. I thought when Terry Venables was manager and Bryan Robson was helping him that there would be a natural progression, but that seemed to fall by the wayside. There really shouldn't be a list of odds on the next England manager. It doesn't happen in too many other countries. Yet even if Kevin had stepped down in the summer, after Euro 2000, we would still have been in the same position, with nobody in the pipeline."
He's right, but given how the FA have botched things, and even though Curbishley has already appeared to rule himself out, might he still be persuaded? With characteristic agility, he sidesteps the question. "A lot of great players have been given jobs as league managers, and it hasn't worked out. It's the same stepping up from club to country. You need to know the scene because a lot of things go into an international match that most people never think about: the training, the facilities, hotels, the boredom factor. It's very difficult if you're not already part of that set-up. That is why I think England should always have someone in the background, gathering experience."
In fact, Curbishley has been offered precisely that role. Earlier this year, Howard Wilkinson invited him to work with the England Under-21s. Reluctantly, he declined. "We had just been promoted and the chairman felt that I should concentrate on the job in hand," he explains. "If the team wasn't doing well and I went off with the Under-21s, I'd be open to criticism. At the moment, club management is what it's all about for me. But I would not be averse in the future."
We are sitting in the homework room at Charlton's Sparrows Lane training ground, in unlovely Eltham, south London. It is called the homework room not because it is where Curbishley bones up on the opposition, but because Charlton's youth-team players do their homework there. And indeed, there is an engaging homeliness about Sparrows Lane, much more so than I have encountered at any other Premiership training ground. In the background a frantic game of table tennis is in progress, with loud encouragement from the sidelines. Elsewhere, the club physiotherapist is, in a curious reversal of convention, having his leg pulled mercilessly. I can see why Curbishley is not yet ready to leave, why he yearns to establish Charlton as a force in the top division, rather than a perennial favourite for relegation. But he must have opinions on the succession. Who does he think should succeed Keegan?
"I don't know. I do know it's a very difficult decision. Because an English candidate doesn't exactly hit you between the eyes. Peter Taylor says he doesn't want it at the moment and, in any case, he's inexperienced as a Premiership manager. Most of the top club managers, like Alex Ferguson, Arsÿne Wenger and Gérard Houllier, aren't English, and might not want it, and anyway, appointing a foreign coach maybe brings its own problems. I think they should take their time. I think Howard is more than capable in the short-term, perhaps with Bobby Robson or Terry Venables to help him. And I know that a lot of English minds and eyes are being opened by the influx of foreign ideas, so a couple of years down the road there'll be no need for people to talk about a foreign coach."
OK, so let's take a hypothetical journey a couple of years down the road. What qualities does Curbishley think he has to make him worthy, then if not now, of serious consideration as England manager?
"I don't complicate things too much. As in any factory or office, when certain things happen, you have to react. I think I react quickly to situations. I ask my players to work collectively. Having said that, a lot of England's problems have had nothing to do with Kevin. Some of the big-name England players are relaxed and expressive playing for their clubs, then seem to go rigid when they cross that line. But don't forget that we were playing a good side on Saturday, and the game panned out for them. In international football if a team goes 1-0 up early, it's very difficult to break them down. But if we get a good result against Finland, then we're back up there again."
However, the Finns could easily puncture that scenario in Helsinki this evening and, in the Charlton striker Jonatan Johansson they have a man quite capable of inflicting further embarrassment on Martin Keown and co. "Yes, he's a good player," says Curbishley. "He came off on Saturday [against Greece] and apparently missed a couple of chances, but we've been very happy with him. He's quick and two-footed, and if he gets presented with anything he finishes it off more often than not. We were pleased to get him. We tried to sign him [from Glasgow Rangers] two years ago but didn't have enough money."
Curbishley's pockets are not exactly weighed down with bullion even now, but he is a budding Bill Gates compared with his former self. He is, incidentally, the second longest-serving manager in the Premiership, behind Ferguson, and one might say that the recent fortunes of both Manchester United and Charlton Athletic, in their different ways, underline the benefits of managerial stability. When Charlton were relegated two seasons ago, the board's response was to offer Curbishley an improved long-term contract. He repaid that faith by leading Charlton straight back into the Premiership, where they now occupy sixth place. Moreover, it is symbolic that they have already won 1-0 away to Newcastle United, to whom they were once compelled to sell the much-cherished Robert Lee, and that they visit Elland Road this Saturday on more or less level terms with Leeds, to whom they were forced, in similarly straitened circumstances, to sell their rising star Lee Bowyer.
If Curbishley were the England manager, I say, unwilling to let that particular subject drop, would he find room in his team for Bowyer? Again, he throws me a nifty sidestep. "He's certainly got the attributes to be an England player. He's got pace and aggression and heart. I used to play him wide on the right, where he wasn't too comfortable, but we got an injury one day in the Worthington Cup at Barnet, so I moved him into midfield, and he never looked back. He's still got to work on a couple of things. His off-the-field stuff has haunted him over the past couple of years and he could be more consistent over 90 minutes. Actually, I think he left us a year too early. Howard [Wilkinson] bought him but then George [Graham] came in and wasn't too sure, so he lost a year when he could have been playing for us, getting stronger. But at the same time, we needed the £3m." The bulk of that £3m was invested in Charlton's venerable ground, The Valley, from which the club spent several miserable years in exile.
Curbishley was given just 10 per cent of it to spend on players. But the following season, in May 1997, the board stumped up the best part of £1m to buy Clive Mendonca from Grimsby. "And for the first time," Curbishley recalls, "players were coming in but nobody was leaving. Then we beat Sunderland in that play-off final, which was very important for us, because otherwise we would have needed to sell a couple of players.
"A year in the Premiership made us much stronger. We used a third [of the television income] on the stadium, a third on players, and a third went into reserve in case we were relegated. Which we were, but we didn't have to break the team up. Really, we are unrecognisable from 10 years ago [when he became player-coach]. In those days we operated out of Portakabins, at Selhurst Park and Upton Park. I showed the players three ways to Upton Park in case they couldn't get through and even then they sometimes struggled. There were times when we handed the team-sheet in on a Saturday afternoon and only five of the players had turned up. On one occasion John Bumstead reached the Canning Town flyover and it was all jammed up, so he ran the last two miles."
Curbishley, who was brought up in Canning Town and knows the back doubles to Upton Park blindfolded, had no such problems. He registered as an apprentice with West Ham in 1973, and it's worth knowing that the name on the form was Llewellyn Charles Curbishley. "But I've always been known as Alan," he says. "There weren't too many Llewellyns in Canning Town."
He was a good player, too, a regular in the England youth midfield alongside Peter Barnes, Ray Wilkins and Glenn Hoddle. "And at West Ham we were playing other great youth teams every week. Arsenal had Rix, O'Leary, Stapleton and Brady. Ipswich had Butcher, Osman, Gates, Burley and Wark. These days, the youth players don't move up like they used to, because of the foreign influx. I'd played 100 games for West Ham before I was 20. If you did that these days, you'd never have to work again."
Such is the modern status of the Premiership footballer. And Curbishley is in a better position than most to observe that football is the new rock n' roll, for he is on pretty intimate terms with the old rock n' roll. His brother, Bill, has been manager of The Who since 1972. And when Bill recently got married, with Curbishley as his best man, guests included Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, and Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, the latter a Wolves nut, who apparently uses the Wolves badge as his backstage pass.
(Here are some examples:)
Wolverhampton Wanderers Logo:
This nugget of useful information comes from Curbishley, who worked as a roadie for Plant in 1988. "And I realised then that music is very much like football," he says. "There are stars but it really is a team game, in which everyone works hard and nobody gets something for nothing. The difference is that when rock stars don't perform, or their records aren't selling, they might not earn so much money. Footballers are guaranteed money whether they play or not, although I wouldn't say that's wrong, because with one bad tackle it could all end tomorrow." Or with one poor result in a World Cup qualifier against Finland, if you're the caretaker manager of England. In which case, the FA could yet be knocking on Curbishley's door.
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Steve,
I saw Heart in Leeds in 1982.at Elland Road Football Stadium. they were supporting Queen.
Queen in Elland Road Football Stadium, Leeds, UK May 29, 1982 Attendance 40,200
Support bands: Heart, Joan Jett And The BlackHearts, Teardrop Explodes
Line-up
Freddie Mercury (lead vocals, piano, tambourine, acoustic guitar),
Brian May (electric guitar, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, piano),
Roger Taylor (drums, backing vocals),
John Deacon (bass guitar, electric guitar),
Morgan Fisher (keyboards, piano)
01. 2:12 Flash's Theme (tape)
02. 1:42 The Hero
03. 3:08 We Will Rock You fast
04. 4:42 Action This Day
05. 5:07 Play The Game
06. 4:07 Staying Power
07. 7:16 Somebody To Love
08. 7:10 Now I'm Here
09. 3:16 Dragon Attack
10. 1:42 Now I'm Here reprise
11. 3:54 Love Of My Life
12. 5:10 Keep Yourself Alive (improvised intro) Save Me
13. 5:10 Back Chat
14. 4:22 Get Down Make Love
15. 6:42 Guitar solo
16. 4:48 Under Pressure (with drum intro)
17. 5:48 Fat Bottomed Girls
18. 4:01 Crazy Little Thing Called Love
19. 6:06 Bohemian Rhapsody (w/ piano intro)
20. 3:56 Tie Your Mother Down
21. 3:54 Another One Bites The Dust
22. 3:25 Sheer Heart Attack
23. 2:00 We Will Rock You
24. 3:35 We Are The Champions
25. 1:17 God Save The Queen
Length: (58:59 + 45:32)
Comment: Complete low generation recording (only the ending of TYMD is from a different bootleg source), almost very good plus quality. Freddie says the crowd is f_ckin' good, so it was probably sold out. Brian later said this was one of their best performances. Save Me features a short improvised Keep Yourself Alive intro.
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I don't think the Horrible Incident had even happened yet, had it?
It had.
The first two photos show Jimmy's arrival at the Oakland Coliseum on Saturday, July 23rd 1977 and the second two photos show his arrival the next day, ninety minutes
late. The backstage brawl occured during or immediately after the Saturday show.
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Steve,
I saw Heart in Leeds in 1982 at Elland Road Football Stadium. they were supporting Queen.
Many thanks, Dave! I will pursue further confirmation he was there and the date,a task much easier now given the number of Queen websites as opposed to Heart sites.
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Metamorphosis Moments:
The Butterfly Jacket Farewell USA '77
Oakland July 24, 1977
The Butterfly Jacket Farewell USA '83
New York December 8 (& 9), 1983
Photos courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive
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Jimmy Arrives at Oakland Coliseum July 23, 1977
Smiles all around, but things would change after that afternoon's backstage brawl.
Jimmy Arrives at Oakland Coliseum July 24, 1977
Note the tension. This was to be The Wrong Goodbye.
Photos courtesy of Steve A. Jones Archive
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I was reading Jon Bream's new book 'Whole Lotta Led Zeppelin' earlier tonight and noticed it contains some quotes from Ann Wilson of Heart concerning the first time they ever met Robert Plant. Ann said it was at their gig in Leeds in the "mid-80s" and they (Heart) were playing Led Zeppelin's 'Rock And Roll' as part of their set. However, in a December 1983 interview published in Musician magazine Robert said he went to see Heart perform just shortly after the formation of The Honeydrippers (circa '81).
I haven't had much luck confirming if Ann & Robert are referring to the same gig or not.
I have been able to confirm Heart played twice in London in May/Jun '82, in support of
their 'Private Audition' album. I seem to recall a CBS Records promotional photo of he
and Heart together circa '82/'83, but I'm not for certain. Anyway, just thought I'd throw
this out there as perhaps someone can confirm Heart played Leeds in '82 and/or '83.
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5.) Finally, have you located any additional information regarding which company created the 1980 tour passes?
Robert
I think I have the answer. You mentioned you have a purple guest pass for the 1980
Over Europe tour with the outline of a small man in the lower corner. I know what you are referring to, as I have this pass as well, though unable to scan it here on account
of it being packed away in a crate. Anyway, I suggest they were produced by Harvey
Goldsmith. This is his logo, which as I recall matches that on the pass but without the
initials:
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Okay, I have one. According to The Concert File by Dave Lewis, Led Zeppelin were in Eugene, Oregon on July 31, 1969, where they may have played but did receive gold records for Led Zeppelin I. It seems ridiculous that they would just stop in Eugene, which is much smaller than Portland (Portland is the ground-zero for major acts who play in Oregon, usually), only to collect gold records and then keep going. It seems more likely that an award of gold records would coincide with their playing in Eugene. Since I'm in the area, perhaps I can do some digging this week for more info but in the meantime, the questions are these:
1. If Zeppelin played in Eugene, OR on that date, what venue did they play at (not all bands play the Hult Center when or if they come here)?
2. Where in Eugene, OR were they awarded the gold records for LZ I?
3. For any future dates played in Eugene, OR, what venues did they play at?
Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this one, Steve.
There is no evidence whatsoever to support Led Zeppelin performed in Eugene, OR on 7/31/69 or any other date. I recall the book says Atlantic Record's Vice-President Jerry Wexler presented the band with gold album awards for their debut album on that date.
Unsure if the book associates that event with Eugene, OR (they'd performed in Salt
Lake City, Utah the night before) but it's more like it happened in Los Angeles.
I show the band arrived in Los Angeles on 7/31/69 on account of a tour anecdote
published in the Spring 1991 issue of 'Masters of Rock'. Specifically, Richard Cole relates
they were staying at the Continental Hyatt House on the Sunset Strip and Jimmy sent
him to Thee Experience to deliver a note to Pamela DesBarres, who was there watching Bo Diddley perform that night. She did not come over to see him at the hotel, so Jimmy called her in the morning to inquire why and invited her to the Zeppelin concert at the Earl Warren Showgrounds in Santa Barbara (8/1/69). She accepted, and after the concert they rode back to Los Angeles together in a limo and participated in post-concert revelry at Thee Experience.
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The butterfly's attractiveness derives not only from colors and symmetry: deeper motives contribute to it. We would not think them so beautiful if they did not fly, or if they flew straight and briskly like bees, or if they stung, or above all if they did not enact the perturbing mystery of metamorphosis: the latter assumes in our eyes the value of a badly decoded message, a symbol, a sign.
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Son of Dracula (featuring John Bonham) (1974)
Album Cover (front):
Album Cover (back):
Film Stills:
Film Poster:
Want to watch this film right now? Click the link below and enjoy your Monster Movie Night:
http://fortheloveofharry.blogspot.com/2006...movie-1974.html
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Hi Steve!
Here's some newer questions for you.
1.) Since the last couple of pages in this thread deal with the necklace, didn't Chris Farlowe own / or still own a WWII memorabilia store? If so, when did Chris open / purchase the store? Perhaps some of Jimmy's articles of clothing / jewelry was purchased from Chris' store?
2.) How did Bonzo end up in the movie "Son Of Dracula" Since I haven't seen the movie what song was Bonzo and the band jamming to?
3.)Can you confirm that one of the proposed titles for The Firm's debut album was "The Royal Court Of China?"
4.)Can you confirm that Simon Kirke was in the passenger seat when Bonzo was pulled over for speeding down Sunset? The story was told by JPJ in the '90's?
5.)Which Bad Company concert in Birmingham did Bonzo, Robert, and Jimmy play on stage with Bad Company?
6.)When Led Zeppelin was able to meet Elvis, Paul Rodgers was also at the concert and attempted to meet with Elvis. Did Peter or Clive ever explain why Paul couldn't also get backstage to meet with Elvis?
Any update on any of the other questions I have?
Robert
Robert, I always welcome your Premier League-level inquiries. I don't have the answers
readily available to them all, but I will get back to you soon. I am close to getting an
answer on whom produced the tour passes for the Over Europe '80 tour and I continue
looking into the previous questions.
As I understand it, Bonzo's involvement in Son of Dracula came about thru his friend Harry Nilsson, who played the main part of Count Downe. 1974 was a slow year for
Led Zeppelin.
Glicine is correct concerning Question #5. I can add to her post by saying Page, Plant and Bonham joined Bad Company for a jam on 'I'm Down' while Peter Grant watched from the side of the stage. The venue was the Birmingham Odeon.
More to follow in this thread concerning all your questions.
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And the point is?
Oh - I know - I treat people's graves as tourist sites and pretend I'm Jimmy Page?
Uhh-uhh - guess again?
And the point is?
Oh - I know - I should care what you think?
Uhh-uhhh - guess again.
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That's it, 1995! I was gonna call the wife and ask her to start reading tshirts! to find out. Great Concert. If anyone has a chance to see a concert at the Bradley Center, do it. A very personal venue. Bands seem more informal there too. I saw the differences in the Stones one summer between the Chicago United Center and the Bradley center in Milwaukee. More fun in Milwaukee.
Thanks Steve.
The pro-shot video footage from the Page/Plant 5/1/95 Milwaukee show is in circulation.
I covered the details of the film production crew hired for that tour in this thread quite some time ago for anyone interested in scrolling way back.
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Steve (doin' this from memory, correct where wrong):
Wasn't it in the 1977 tour that Jimmy Page wore a black Tshirt, German Army officer's hat, German Army Pants and Boots? That was in Chicago no?
Now fast forward to the 1996? 1998? Page and Plant shows. I couldn't get tickets for Chicago so I saw them in Milwaukee. When they played "How many more times" Plant introduced it by saying "how about some harley davidson jazz milwaukee?" (or something like that). The night ended with me eating white castle burgers in the backseat of a car while drinking, you guessed it; jack and coke.
Yes, this is a true story, don't remember the exact year though.
Funny you should mention Chicago, 4/10/77. Not many realize it was an Easter Sunday
performance. There are plenty of photos in circulation concerning what he wore, so I
don't see the need to post any here.
Jimmy was quick to point out he didn't wear the complete uniform, just the boots, jodhpours and hat. Not many realize he also donned a white fedora during that concert. A white fedora...Nazi regalia... Chicago...it was as if he was paying homage to the cities' gangster reputation. Remember he said it was done as art and to shock.
The Milwaukee concert to which you refer was at the Bradley Center on 5/1/95.
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However Coca Cola did make Fanta just for the Nazis. Wasn't that nice of them
I think it'd be nice if you start a thread in Ramble On about purple rain and stay there. This thread is intended to examine details pertaining to Led Zeppelin. Cheers.
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Led Zeppelin's September 1970 concerts in Boston:
Rolling Stone Magazine
November 26, 1970
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Thanks. Way too hard to make out your face in those images
Because my metamorphosis is nearly complete!
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Nurnburg, Germany 6/27/80
Background:
It's well established the 6/27/80 concert at Messehalle in Nurnberg, Germany was cut short and Bonzo was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. It is also known the band spent the next two nights (Fri & Sat) at the Grand Hotel on 1-3 Bahnhofstrasse downtown. Bonzo was released from hospital and returned to the hotel on Saturday afternoon and made the next gig in Zurich on Sunday night.
Inquiry:
A concert attendee claims the band partied at a disco in Roth (a small town in the vicinity of Nurnburg) prior to arriving for the concert. It seems to me they would not have had time to do so, seeing as they'd performed in Vienna the night before and would probably not have arrived until late afternoon. I seem to recall someone else (Dave Lewis?) saying the band did go to a club whilst in town, but it was sometime after the show.
Anyway, is there anyone out there who can substantiate the facts of the matter? Would be very interested to confirm the name of the disco and when they went, as it might have affected the show.
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Well, you were the only one speculating along the blond-hair-blue-eyes line.
...after having joined an ongoing discussion of "Aryan".
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In the "In Through the Out Door" songbook, which was published by Swan Song and so pretty likely to be accurate, the word is spelled "Arian", and with a capital letter - which, if you look it up, leans much more to what Glicine said than the idea of the blonde-haired blue-eyed "Aryan" so associated with Hitler.
The capital letter suggests the word is actually a name, which is another train of thought to follow - but not one that I am necessarily advocating. He did use pet names (like "Samosa") in some of his work.
Agreed; I should have consulted my copy of the songbook before getting caught up in the prevailing speculation.
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"Proud Aryan"...Robert has blonde hair and blue eyes...as did Karac. Note also the Nordic (Viking) symbology he uses in his fantasy segment for TSRTS and the video for I Believe.
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Steve "The Lemon" Sauer conducted a recent interview with Chris Squire of Yes, whom graciously cleared up some of the mystery surrounding the Spring 1981 XYZ sessions
with Jimmy:
http://lemonsqueezings.blogspot.com/2009/0...nd-view-of.html
Friday, March 20, 2009
Members of The Syn expand the view of progressive rock
Today, I asked two members of a band called The Syn to define progressive rock for me. Their latest album, Big Sky, is slated for release on April 21 by Umbrello Records, hence the occasion for my speaking to them today. And my conversations with them also helped to tell some other stories regarding members of Led Zeppelin.
Jimmy Page's brush with Yes members
The Syn originated in England, with Chris Squire on bass just a few years before he formed Yes. Jimmy Page had a chance to work with Squire in what would have been his first band after the breakup of Led Zeppelin. At the time, Yes was on hiatus with its future up in the air, and Squire was keeping himself busy with other projects, usually involving other Yes members. He described in a recent interview how it came to be that he nearly formed the band XYZ with Page and drummer Alan White:
"That was not long after John Bonham had passed away, and I ran into Jimmy at a Christmas party, and he said, 'I'd really like to get back into playing, oh and by the way, I'm moving from my house to close to where you live.' And I said, 'OK, well, we'll get together.' So, he came over to my place, and he heard some of the stuff, and he said, 'Oh yeah! Let's do your songs!' He was like, 'I just wanna play and do some work and, you know, move on, really.' And it was funny at that time because he'd been so affected by John Bonham dying, he was even smoking cigarettes through a cigarette holder. Mr. Clean at the time! It was, like, quite peculiar. ...
"I once went down to Peter Grant's house to discuss the new project with him, and we were discussing it for about 96 hours straight, not really getting anywhere. It was quite funny because my dad, actually, while he was alive, knew I was involved in that project, and he said, 'Well, the obvious name for that project would be X-Y-Zed, you know, X-Y-Z. Ex-Yes-Zeppelin. So, there I was at Peter Grant's house saying to him, 'That's the natural name for this project! Yes is on hiatus. We're not sure what's going on with that. And Zeppelin, you know, is presumably not gonna be anymore.' And Peter Grant kept saying to me, 'Yeah, but I don't like the idea of Yes being before Zeppelin.' And I said, 'Well, Peter, it's the alphabet. X-Y-Z.' I said, 'X-Z-Y? I don't know.' And we had that same conversation for about 96 hours. ...
"The idea was that Robert was going to come and join in, but I think I heard Alan say that the music was too complicated. I don't think it was that. I think, um, it was just too soon for Robert. He didn't want to just jump back into another project. He was still upset, I guess, about John's death."
Squire's fellow founding member of The Syn, Steve Nardelli, recalls that he was working with Squire at the time of these XYZ sessions. In my interview with him today, Nardelli recounted many of the same details Squire had, adding on that XYZ rehearsal sessions took place both "at Jimmy's house and up at Squire's studio in Virginia Water." From Nardelli's perspective:
"The thing about that was they were hoping to get Robert Plant to sing, and then he wouldn't. ... It never quite got off the ground. I think in the studio they never quite, quite gelled. It didn't quite work."
Many thanks, Dave! I will pursue further confirmation he was there and the date,
Zeppelin Mysteries Hosted by Steve A. Jones
in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
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Page, Plant and The Who Manager Bill Curbishley
I'm trying to confirm where these were taken. It might have been at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC on 11/13/96 (Silver Clef Dinner & Auction to benefit Nordoff-Robins Music Therapy) but I'm not quite certain.