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  1. The RNRHOF is a joke, agreed. They’re inconsistent with who they select as it varies from group to group and I think they’re just a private social club who like certain groups and don’t like others (not objective). It’s sad that Blackmore wasn’t able to participate and what happened with DP. All former members should have been invited and been able to attend/perform. 
     

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Rodrigo said:

    And that you've talked to all those people and even the current line-up of the band, what changes? I don't understand. :rolleyes:

    Did you talk with Ritchie Blackmore, too? :whistling:

    As a matter of fact, I’ve met Ritchie (in the early 90s). He lives in / around Long Island, NY (one of the hot spots for corona virus right now) as well as in various places on the west coast, when in the US. Have you? What is your point? 
     

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  3. We agree on a lot, but will disagree. I believe you feel you have to have the last word, so let’s move on. I think there may be a disconnect (in translation). I know the history of the band (yes, I know Curtis’ idea naming it, etc) and have talked personally with multiple members of the band about these very subjects through this thread. I’ve known several of them for 20+ years and they’ve recorded at studios / venues I’ve been to that are not far away in Atlanta (and Nashville recently). All the best with your music. (Pictured w/ Steve Morse, chatting after concert, w/ Rick Wakeman & Trevor Rabin (Yes) aftershow, w/ Kerry Livgren (Kansas) & friends as well as w/ inventor and founder of Marshall Amplifiers (Jim Marshall R.I.P.). They are regular people just like you and me. 
     

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  4. 6 hours ago, Richard Digby Smith said:

    As a staff engineer in the 1970's at Island Record's Basing Street Studios I had the pleasure of working with engineer Andy Johns on much of Zepp 3 and 4.

    I assisted Andy on the night the band recorded Stairway and my book includes an account of this magical night in the studio.

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    Welcome, Richard. Thank you for sharing.  All the best to you and your family, especially during these times.

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  5. 4 hours ago, Rodrigo said:

    Yeah, I know you think Blackmore's an asshole and a bad person. I don't think so, but that's not the focus of the discussion. THIS is the focus of the discussion:

    So:

    Ian Paice wasn't the only original member after Blackmore left, and Jon Lord?

    It doesn't matter that Ian Paice never left the band and that he's one of the original members. Since Blackmore was the main songwriter, followed by Lord. "Perhaps" this is why the band's signature sound was always Ritchie and Jon.
     

    Don't get me wrong, Paice is an excellent drummer. One of my favorites along with John Bonham, Cozy Powell and many others. In fact, in that video, you can see that he's on fire and then follows up with a spectacular drum solo to end with 'Mandrake Root'. But that's not enough, he's not up to Blackmore and Lord. Just listening to the albums, either studio or live, should be enough.

    Besides, the simple fact that Ian Paice is in the current line-up (even if it's legal) doesn't mean that it's morally right for the band to bear the legendary name of Deep Purple (although to be honest, I don't care much). It's like Doug Clifford and Stu Cook playing under the name 'Creedence Clearwater Revival' just because they are original members... and not as 'Revisited'.

    And that's wrong, the name 'Deep Purple' was chosen by Ritchie because it was his grandmother's favorite song.

    I presented historical facts and you present emotion / opinion because you’re a Blackmore devotee (professional and personal; thinking he can do no wrong). THIS is the Focus and I stand on evidence, so let’s agree to disagree, because I’m not changing my mind and you’re not wanting to look at the facts. I enjoy DP music of all their lineups. You only enjoy a certain segment of their lineup/ history.

    Now, let’s move on with this subject and get to their music. I’m not here to squabble with someone over their subjective opinion over someone’s personal life (I’m here to present historical facts). I’ve met many musicians (including most members of DP) and celebrities having worked 20+ years in the industry and there’s always a few bad apples in the bunch (regardless of how talented they may be). The Eagles had Don Felder (who wrote “Hotel California” and demanded he sing it on the record / concert ). He was later fired from the band for not being a team player and for having issues with other band members (Glenn Frey R.I.P. & Don Henley).
     

    No one said there was anything wrong with Ian Paice or the name Deep Purple. You brought that up for some unknown reason (where there is no argument; Paice was and is within his legal and moral right as last surviving / remaining member after Jon Lord R.I.P. passed away). It’s served him, the music and the loyal fans well (whatever lineup over the years). Think of it like a football / soccer team. Although a certain defining sound / direction or template was created by some earlier members, the band carried on. When some players aren’t team oriented, they lose focus of the intention of the band and want everything directed at them (as Dio said in video regarding Blackmore (w/ Rainbow). He (Blackmore) wasn’t a team player there (or in DP). He’s always been all about himself, so he left. He had a tantrum (actually multiple ones like a child along with his breakdown) and then didn’t want anyone else to play under the DP name (so he tried to keep others (the majority) who were and are happily functioning better without him some 20 years after the fact from playing as a team (under the name).
     

    Blackmore for DP is like the Vinnie Vincent of KISS. Vincent, as talented as he was as a critical songwriter for many of their 80s - 90s hits and blazingly fast guitarist with KISS, he simply didn’t put his ego / abrasive personality in check before getting on stage. He tried to upstage Paul and Gene live and wouldn’t stop soloing so they fired him. Ace Frehley (KISS’ original guitarist) created their logo, but he’s not in the group now. He didn’t demand they change their name or logo after he left them or try to get his logo back. Paul Stanley actually updated / improved upon the look (of the two SS) of the logo.  KISS like most every other band (in the history of rock n roll) moves on with various lineup changes. Fleetwood Mac has undergone multiple lineup changes, too (Peter Green original blues guitarist and now without Lindsey Buckingham ; their most popular songwriter/guitarist ) and they’re still selling out stadiums like Deep Purple (regardless of lineup changes). The Beatles had Pete Best as their original drummer before Ringo. Yes has had so many versions, too and they’re still together (after Chris Squire R.I.P. , Bruford retired, Jon Anderson left forming his own version of the band with Wakeman and Trevor Rabin (who wrote their biggest hit “Owner of a Lonely Heart” (after Steve Howe, who wrote “Roundabout”, which was actually Deep Purple’s earlier name when touring Denmark in April ‘68 ).
     

    So, if DP kept their name as Roundabout throughout the late 60s into 70s, would some early fans of the band have thought of them as a Yes tribute (cover) band ?  Probably not. 
     

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  6. On 4/3/2020 at 11:47 PM, Badgeholder Still said:

    RJD was very diplomatic about his time working with Blackmore. But i'm not convinced he left Rainbow "on good terms".

     

    Ritchie Blackmore is a trailblazing pioneer. An icon. A legend. That doesn't mean he can be an asshole too.

    These videos say it all and proves my point. Blackmore put himself first above others, “mistreated” former (Rainbow) members (Tony Carey, etc) and fans (spitting on them, not signing autographs) as he doesn’t care about people (only himself). Thanks for providing further proof.
     

    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ritchie-blackmore-deep-purple-meltdown/

    The Deep Purple name was contested by Ian Paice (founding and only original member) after Blackmore left group then attempted to get the name some 20 years after his departure. No legal registration exists today for the name, as Paice disputed it and was never settled. The band (not a tribute band as original member Paice never left) records new material (due summer 2020) and plays to this day.
     

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  7. Jimmy was already experimenting with alternate guitar / keyboard sounding effects by the mid to late 70s w/ Roland guitar synthesizer on Presence and the Gizmotron on ITTOD, so no telling what direction Led Zeppelin would have taken musically into the 80s had Bonham had lived. It’s all speculation at this point. As discussed. JP had used multiple effects all throughout their recording and touring career (Theremin, etc).

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  8. 3 hours ago, Rodrigo said:

     

    As I said, Blackmore is a leader and a perfectionist. If he doesn't like things, he makes the decisions he feels are necessary. Whether it's kicking members out, fighting with them, it doesn't matter.

    Actually, I don't know what you mean by "female trouble", but... who doesn't have problems with their women?

    Like I said, Ritchie was fed up in '93 with Gillan's return and what happened with 'The Battle Rages On'. I'm sure the water was meant to be thrown at Gillan, not the cameraman. But anything could be, I remember he said he was laughing when they had to start 'Highway Star' without him. And that's part of his charm, but let's be clear, he wasn't upset for no reason.

    Despite what Ian Gillan says, I know a lot of fans have returned tickets and those who have gone to the shows were either angry or sad because Satriani was there and they hadn't heard that Ritchie had left the band.

    I was never sad that Blackmore left the band in '93 (in fact I was 3 years old). He made a great album in '95 and then obviously created Blackmore's Night.

    After Blackmore's departure in '93, Deep Purple ceased to exist and became Ian Gillan Band. You can't say Deep Purple without Ritchie Blackmore, it's totally illogical, it would be like saying Led Zeppelin without Jimmy Page.

    Besides, Ian Gillan wasn't kicked out by Ritchie in '73, he decided to leave. He was thrown out in the days of 'The House Of Blue Light' when he would go on stage drunk without remembering the lyrics.
    Also, when Gillan returned to the band in '84, fans expected some MKIII classics (like 'Burn', 'Stormbringer', 'Mistreated', etc) and he refused with that stupid comparison of the ex-girlfriend. There you have Ian Gillan 'the asshole'.

    Blackmore did declare that he was interested in playing some songs for the 50th anniversary, Steve Morse agreed (you can search it on the web), Ian Gillan denied it, stating "it was too late", as if he owned the band, and everything the name Deep Purple stands for. DEEP PURPLE ISN'T BROKEN, IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

     

    Ritchie recorded the first Rainbow album with the Elf members, because Dio asked Ritchie to do it. He told him that they had fought hard and that they deserved to be on the first album (without doing the tour) at least.
    Ritchie said in an interview that when they were rehearsing (or recording, I don't remember), the drummer would freeze, he couldn't start.
    Then, once the first Rainbow album was recorded, Ritchie hired Cozy Powell (who had planned it from the beginning), Jimmy Bain and Tony Carey.

    Ronnie left the band on good terms with Ritchie, because Blackmore no longer wanted to do medieval rock. In fact, was on such bad terms with Ritchie and despised him so much, that in his latest album 'The Devil You Know' with Heaven And Hell (Black Sabbath), in the booklet thanks, guess what? to Ritchie Blackmore.

    Cozy Powell didn't leave the band on bad terms either. According to his own words, he found it too much to record 'Since you've been gone' and decided to leave.

     

    You're saying some false things. Ritchie decided to return to rock in 2016 because he missed rock, was (and is) having health problems, because of his old age, and wanted to give fans a gift. It's a lie that he didn't do it before 2016 because he didn't get along with anyone, he didn't do it before because he was comfortable (and still is) with Blackmore's Night (a band I love), just because he makes you yawn doesn't mean the same thing happens to all of us.

    And yes, Candice discovered Ronnie Romero (fortunately I was lucky enough to see him live, though not with Rainbow, of course) on YouTube and showed him to Ritchie. Romero went to one of his castles in Germany and there was chemistry, Ritchie liked it. The short hair thing, it's a stupid comment, you can't compare the times of music (and especially rock) today, with the golden times of yesterday. Already the name Ritchie Blackmore is well established.

    Ian Gillan Band records so many albums, but about 95% of the material they play live, are songs composed by Ritchie Blackmore, what's up?

    Blackmore hasn't returned to rock to tour the world and record ten albums, he did it as a gift to fans.

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    Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy the music of "Deep Purple" :smileyquote:, I'm happy for you. I just like to leave my point of view, since Ian Gillan (and others) are very hypocritical and ungrateful with the one who is feeding them... because they don't live from the songs of their albums without Ritchie Blackmore.

    In the double DVD 'History, Hits & Highlights 68 - 76', there is a slightly unreleased interview where Ritchie admits that he is mainly in charge of the composition of the songs. Perhaps in the first three albums Jon Lord participated on a par with Ritchie, but since 'In Rock'... most of them are by Ritchie Blackmore.

     

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    Info I quoted was from published and verified sources. Times change and people’s memories may fade (or put their own spin on things) after some distance, too. Glad Blackmore wanted to do something for the fans after years of thinking mainly of himself. I enjoy his music and playing; just not a fan of him personally. Enjoy the music.

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  9. 2 hours ago, Stryder1978 said:

    Ritchie may be a prick to work with, but he is easily one of the greatest, most versatile guitar players to ever pluck six strings.

    Agreed 

     

    3 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

    Also, the original lineup in Rainbow were some former bandmates of Dio from Elf.  They were really just session musicians until Blackmore could get the guys he wanted.  It was his band, after all.

    There's no question he's a very difficult guy, but the fact is, DP exists and tours now because of the music Blackmore wrote.  No Ritchie, no DP, it's that simple.

    Agreed. He is superb as a guitar player and there would be no DP without him due to his creativity & originally, but there’d be no DP if he stayed after ‘93. Blackmore just went over and above to let everyone know of his dislike. Tactful he isn’t.  I’m glad others are carrying the DP flag by creating new music and touring since his departure.
     

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  10. Blackmore had problems with nearly everyone close to him in his life from females to (a revolving door of) members in Every band he’s ever been in with (Rainbow) Ronnie James Dio (R.I.P., Tony Carey, Graham Bonnet, Ian Gillian (DP), etc, etc making him the difficult one to cure (the AH)... 

    He had a meltdown (and a series of tantrums) on stage in November 1993 (splashing water in the face of a cameraman (doing his job) trying to capture him performing. 
     

    Gillan was quoted expressing his relief, “If Ritchie had stayed in the band, it would have been the end of Deep Purple. We were playing in small halls, and they weren’t even full — they were half empty — and Ritchie was walking offstage every night”. The band was progressively happier without the menace, and acknowledged the event as to how Deep Purple managed to push through to its 50th anniversary. The involved parties are seemingly in agreement that no reunion is to be expected, a testament on how not all that is broken needs fixing.


    After leaving Deep Purple, Blackmore replaced Gruber, Driscoll and Soule (Rainbow) in September with Jimmy Bain, Cozy Powell and Tony Carey, respectively.

     Rising and live album On Stage were recorded with this second lineup, before Bain and Carey were sacked by Blackmore in January 1977.

    After the release of Long Live Rock 'n' Roll, Dio left due to disagreements with Blackmore.

    Bonnet left after the album's release due to ongoing frustration with Blackmore (due to differences re: hair / image, being held prisoner in his own hotel room while on tour) and was replaced by Joe Lynn Turner, while Powell (had a run in with guess who, yep, Blackmore) also left the group to be replaced by Bobby Rondinelli; both new members performed on Difficult to Cure.

    Keyboardist David Rosenthal replaced Airey for 1982's Straight Between the Eyes and 1983's Bent Out of Shape, the latter of which featured drummer Chuck Burgi who replaced Rondinell after dispute / personality differences  with (again, you guessed it) Blackmore.

    See the ongoing pattern of revolving door of these talented rock legends / musicians???  Dio, Cozy Powell, etc...
     

    Blackmore left rock for nearly 20 years (1997-2016) to do classical bard music (yawn) with his wife (Blackmore’s Night) until a few years ago, as he couldn’t get along with anyone. Then, he (hypocrite) got a “short haired” rock singer (Ronnie Romero) to front the newest version of Rainbow (even performing DP songs on tour) while a much healthier Deep Purple has recorded multiple new albums and toured to some of their largest numbers internationally (India, Middle East, Germany, etc).
     

    Meanwhile, In 2016, Blackmore added (shorthaired) vocalist Ronnie Romero, bassist Bob Nouveau (Bob Curiano), drummer David Keith and keyboardist Jens JohanssonThe group (Rainbow) has since only released three live albums (just a rehash of mostly older material) and a number of singles to little or no acclaim. 
     

    The best thing for Deep Purple was for Blackmore to leave when he did. Gillan is healthier (contributing better lyrics, singing better again, cleaned up his act and is actually pretty good on the golf course). All other members of DP (Steve Morse, Ian Paice, Don Airey, Roger Glover and Jon Lord (R.I.P.) get/got along much better as a band / having their own space (equal identities) individually and collectively; supporting each other creatively, personally & professionally.
     

    They actually like each other on and off the stage (unlike when Blackmore was “running the show”, having tantrums on stage and throwing guitars into amps, water in peoples faces, etc) .  Don’t get me wrong: Blackmore is an amazing guitar player, but who would want to hang around him for more than a Short series of concerts (knowing he’d not like them due to their short hair, the way they carried themselves on stage ; oh, and if he saw anyone else getting the spot light (that would be the end of them in the band)???  That Is the definition of a control freak, egotist and an a$@hole. 
     

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  11. Yep. I like all of their different lineups. There are a few most don’t know about including brief / very brief lineup changes with substitute touring guitarists like Joe Satriani and even Christopher Cross (aka Chris Gepfert).

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  12. 37 minutes ago, Rodrigo said:

    Tell me, why is an asshole?

    (See below)

    Ian Gillan is the real asshole, he always believed he was the soul of Deep Purple and he never was. Furthermore, in the last years, Ritchie has expressed an interest in playing some songs with "Deep Purple" and Gillan has refused... who the hell is he? As well as the manager has suggested that Ritchie doesn't go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... those are the real assholes.

     

    Watch 58:50 re: Graham Bonnet’s hair for one of many examples. Blackmore is a great guitar player, but can’t get along with many people.

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