Hi mightyzep247! I didn't know Johnny Winter was still touring. I saw him years ago. Loved his music along with Edgar Winter's. I saw Johnny with ZZ Top as the opening band. My next concert is AC/DC in Cincinnati on January 11th.

Green Grass and High Tides - Outlaws

I have been to Delphi in the mid 1990's. It is an amazing location, high up on a mountain on the slope overlooking a beautiful valley. There was a ruined ampitheater and I sat in the top-most row of stone seats and looked out over that valley. It was a very spiritual place. Fantastic experience. I remember hearing that Alexander the Great consulted the Oracle before going into battles.

Johnny B Good - Chuck Berry

Sunshine Superman - Donovan

Close to You - The Carpenters

Wake Up Little Susie - The Everly Brothers

All in Your Mind - Iron Maiden

Georgia on my Mind - Ray Charles

Listening to and watching "Tommy" by the Who. It is on VH1 Classic.

Hey Steve, Start us a new and interesting mystery to discuss. Thanks in advance. BUCK"EYE" DOC

All the info that you would care to know on Lori Mattix, alias Lori Maddox, alias Lori Lightning is on this link: familyzepp.piczo.com/?g=28440157&cr=3 note: I hope this link works. I am not familiar with how to post links on this site. If it doesn't work, go to familyzepp.piczo.com and you should find it.

Sorry Steve, I didn't see your post. My bad!

I just found another quote in the Rough Guide pertaining to the loss of Karac. "I haven't taken a drug since that day", Plant told Uncut in 2005. Another passage from this book: While some members of the entourage, including Zeppelin's attorney Steve Weiss, stayed in California to sort out the mess, on the day after the arrests, Robert Plant and others flew on to New Orleans. ( No mention of who stayed and who went.) Also: "Robert said: The perspective of that, losing one's child, is the bitterest pill to take". "How am I ever going to deal with the next moment and put my shoulders back and be a man? I thought that I'd better refocus the whole deal". The reunion (with the band) came after Grant eventually convened a band meeting at the end of April 1978 at London's Royal Garden Hotel. "That was after a long uphill battle to get him (Robert) to work again", Grant later recalled. "Robert kept saying he'd do it and then back down, but Bpnzo was a tower of strength..........So I suggested Clearwell (Castle), because Bad Company had been there. So Robert says hhe'd just like to do some jamming, so that's what they did."

I just found in the "Rough Guide to Led Zeppelin" the answer to the Cairo question. The quote: "During the two-week break before the next leg, Page took a short vacation in Egypt but was back in London by 12 May to collect (with the rest of the band) an Ivor Novello award for their "outstanding contribution to British music". So there is the exact date of when he was in Egypt.

That is why I am not selling. I have a long way to go before retirement and hope that it goes back up.

Well, since it is now November 21, I am compelled to tell my story. Twenty two years ago today, I went into labor prematurely, and my first son was born 3 months early. He lived for a week and died on Novmber 29th. There is nothing worse in the world that can happen to a person than to loose a child. When you loose your parents, you have lost your past. When you loose a child, you have lost your future. So I totally understand what Robert meant by his statement. The thing that saved me from unrelenting grief is that I got pregnat again almost immediately and had another son almost a year later in December. I had to get over it to be a good mother to my second son. Perhaps Robert associates being in Led Zeppelin with Karac's death and can't bear to participate again as a member of Led Zeppelin.

Do you mean, like a pimp? Or should her mother have been reining her in and not letting her stay all night with a man twice her age? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

This stock market crash is starting to scare me. I am afraid to look at my 401K accounts. Last that I looked, first of November, it was down 40% from its peak in October 2007. Down even more this week. What made me happy today? Took the day off to clean and shop for Thanksgiving. Having about 20 people over for dinner on Thursday and the family will play "The Turkey Bowl" touch football game.

I tried to change the subject earlier but we got back to discussing the groupies, which is probably more interesting. I guess there are no set rules, just go with the flow.

That is so true.

Hi everyone! After reading Miss Pamela's books as well as most of the Led Zeppelin books, I have concluded that Jimmy and the rest of the guys did love these girls at the time that they were with them. The problem was, the girls were not true to Jimmy and chased after any Rock Star (and their handlers such as Richard Cole) who came to L.A., and I think that it bothered him. If you listen to the words of alot of the LZ songs, I think that they are singing about the groupies. Songs such as "Hey Hey What Can I Do" (I've got a woman who won't be true) gives one insight as to their feelings about women. Of course, the guys weren't true to the girls, but that was acceptable then. Jimmy even asked Miss Pamela to allow him to "do certain things" when he was on the road as he was likely to be lonely. Jimmy locked Lori Mattix in his room, presumably because she was underage, but also probably to keep her away from the other guys having a go with her. The only life that the band knew was life on the road. They were touring constantly in the early years. It had to be very lonely for them. I believe that they had established relationships with the L.A. groupies and the groupies were their family on the road. They even cut a gig short in New York City (unheard of for Led Zeppelin) so that they could take the Starship to L.A. where they could party with the groupies. Robert Plant recovered after his auto accident in California probably to be near the groupies. Jimmy did phone Pamela and Lori and did send a Christmas gift to Miss Pamela. I do think that he cared for them.

Hi Bigstickbonzo, Thanks for getting back to the subject at hand. I just found this quote from Robert in a book that I purchased at the RRHF titled "The Rough Guide to Led Zeppelin". At the beginning of each chapter is a quote and this is the one for the chapter titled "Crash Landing 1977 - 1980": "Fate is already written. I tried to pick myself up, and as I did so slowly, I realized my family was way more important than the luxurious life I'd been living in Led Zeppelin". Robert Plant

My favorite is "The Ocean" as a song, but I like the live version better than the studio version. The studio version sounds kind of lifeless and flat compared to the "Live" DVD version. I also like "Dancing Days", "The Rain Song", and "No Quarter". Heck, I like the entire HOTH.

Wow, Steve. This brought tears to my eyes. What an emotional song and video. Makes me admire and love Robert even more. Gives one perspective that maybe a Led Zeppelin reuinion is not the most important thing in life.