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  1. 4 hours ago, kipper said:

    The police finally came and arrested one of my noisy neighbors. He is a  loud abusive drunk. I think he was arrested for beating his wife who will probably go bail him out later.

    Once upon a time, in the 1980's, I used to get awakened in the middle of the night by a guy (in his 20's) in the apartment directly above me, throwing his girlfriend hard down to the floor. There was probably alcohol involved, and, the wrong kind of drugs. I saw him once, and he kind of had a wild stare, and exuded an attitude like, "Nobody tells me what to do". (Like one of the "crazies" in Death Wish II).

    Within a few weeks, that guy, at a different apartment complex, dove off the 2nd story to reach the pool below. He did not make the pool, and, I never heard any loud noises above me in my apartment complex again.

  2. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-43300521

    The Kanepi municipality in southeast Estonia was created last July through the merger of three previously separate districts ;and as a result of the local government shake-up, residents were given the chance to vote on a new symbol to represent the district, state broadcaster ERR says.

    The overwhelmingly popular choice among the people of Kanepi was a design based on the cannabis leaf. According to ERR, "kanep" is the Estonian word for cannabis.


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  3. If you get a Zeppelin tattoo, then can wear them all of the time, even in the shower!!

    I don't have any tats... just not my thing.

    Speaking of Led Zeppelin clothing.... the shirt/smock, whatever you call it, that Robert wore on the '75 Tour looked a lot, in it's style, like the "shirt" my 16 year old girlfriend wore to the Dallas show in 1973. We were sitting 3rd row back, and for the CB encore we went and stood at the front center of the floor, and no one else was standing there. I know Robert got a good look at my girlfriend and her attire.

    I think that Robert was inspired by what he saw my girlfriend wearing that night.

    Here's a "Jimmy" themed sweater I have:

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  4. 2 hours ago, Strider said:

    No Martin Barre. He and Ian apparently are on the outs. This is what I found from the web...

    Ian Anderson will celebrate the 50th anniversary of Jethro Tull over the course of an extensive North American tour next year. The tour is currently scheduled to span from late May through September. Anderson will be backed by bassist David Goodier, keyboardist John O’Hara, guitarist Florian Opahle and drummer Scott Hammond

    I saw JT in the 90's with Barre and it was Excellent. It's the best I'd seen Tull since the original TAAB Tour. I saw the TAAB/TAAB Pt.2 Tour but I just wasn't blown over. Won't be going to see any Tull 50th shows.... just going to remember what an awesome experience it was to see TAAB in the 70's, when Ian and the band were at the Zenith...

  5. Seen at the Supermarket Newsstand today:

    Music Spotlight ~ Special Collector's Edition
    Pink Floyd 45th Anniversary Celebration
    The Complete Story of THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
    Plus ~ Roger Waters & David Gilmour on the making of their Greatest Albums

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  6. On 2/23/2018 at 6:18 PM, SteveZ98 said:

    PA systems in the '70s were not very efficient at producing bass. In order to get the low end to kick you in the chest back then, bands had to feed a lot of power to the speakers. When they did that, the guitars and other instruments had to be cranked up as well so the bass didn't overwhelm them. Because of that, you ended up with a lot of extremely loud concerts in that era. And playing really loud shows also eventually became some sort of badge of honor, and bands would turn up the volume even more than necessary so they could proudly proclaim that they were the loudest band in the world.

    Now that PAs can easily generate a thumping low end with less power, bands are able to turn down the rest of the instruments too, so concerts don't need to be as loud as they were in the '70s. Current bands have also seen what extreme volume did to the people in earlier bands (think Brian Johnson), so they have an incentive to not play as loudly now so they can still hear when they get old. As for April Wine, they may just like being loud, or their sound person may have not have been on the ball when you saw them.

    The great thing about seeing Zeppelin in 70's, even if you were in the nosebleed seats, you got the awesomeness of the sound. I learned early on, to stuff tissue in my ears, which made it possible to hear the notes better, particularly if you were sitting close to the stage getting the direct blast of the stage monitors.

    To contrast, when I saw P&P I was shocked, that sitting in balcony in the back of Reunion Arena in Dallas, that the sound pressure level in the hall was actually *less* than what I experienced  when I listened to "Led Zeppelin" favorites at home. After experiencing "Kashmir" at 1977 volume levels, the 90's "Kashmir" experience was quite underwhelming.

    When bootleggers re-mix concerts, no matter how loud the bass input is, to mimic what it was like at a Led Zeppelin concert, the guitar --always-- has to ride above the rest. Always.

    What I do know, is that anyone that got to experience a Led Zeppelin concert in-the-flesh, got more than any film or recording can portray. So, while all I have to go on from the EC and Knebworth shows are tapes and video.... I know that "being there" was so much more satisfying.

    The highlight of the Dallas 1975 show was D&C. And TU and TSRTS were also awesome. The final Dallas encore with "Heartbreaker," was the Cherry on Top!!

    As to Robert singing in a lower register --- I couldn't give a Flying Fuck !!!! I never was about "that high pitch of Robert sends me to the moon and I've got have it forever!!!"

    Thanks for your details about how you got tickets, and how you go to the show. Someday, I might indulge, and write about the details of my Zep going experiences. There was no one tell back then. No internet. No fourm. No FB. No Twitter. Probably a good thing for LZ and their offstage lives!

     

  7. On 12/26/2012 at 11:41 PM, pimmyjage said:

    The Wilson ladies tribute to STH was fantastic as was the reaction and expressions on the lads faces. They clearly enjoyed it!

    Could have done without Kid Rock though, but thats just my opinion.

     

    Overall the entire show was great.

     

    On 12/27/2012 at 12:20 AM, Tea41 said:

    STH with Ann and Nancy Wilson was really powerful and excellent, Page and Plant both had tears in their eyes...it actually put a tear in my eye. Such a great song, and was the well deserved grand finale. Jack Black was funny introducing Zep, he definitely gets it and is an obvious true Zep fan, like us here..."Best band ever!".

     

    On 12/27/2012 at 3:22 AM, henrybonzo said:

    how ironic that the one song plant avoids, ends up being the one that brings a tear to his eye!

     

    On 12/27/2012 at 4:40 PM, nc0275 said:

    The posts that mentioned Plant looking bored, way off the mark. In my 41 yrs. of following him as a fan, I have never seen him so emotional. You could see he was fighting it very hard. Very moving to see. Also, Stairway, which has had a complicated relationship with Plant and fans alike over the years was revived as the historic song it is with a very moving performance. Felt real, real good to be reminded of the emotional impact on the culture of that song through the years. Great job by all muscians in giving tribute to the boys.

     

    On 12/27/2012 at 5:00 PM, ksgemini said:

    I think another thing about Stairway for Robert was the multitude of Bonzo hats and seeing Jason up there...He immediately stood up when Jason came out so maybe it was more memories and feelings than just the song itself....Heart did a nice job though....

    BINGO !!

    I ran across this OnStage Magazine article from 2013 today (while looking for something else Zep related).

    The Real Reason for Robert Plant’s Tears During “Stairway to Heaven”

    By Chris LeDrew on June 24, 2013

    ARTICLE VIEWS: 16,488,334

    http://onstagemagazine.com/the-real-reason-for-robert-plants-tears-during-stairway-to-heaven/

     

  8. 4 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

    ...but nothing. This is meaningless. He's great on his own merits but he's not a member of Led Zeppelin, nor will he ever be.

    Nor in the future will Robert Plant be a member of a performing or recording "Led Zeppelin."

    He's done being the "Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin" regarding live performances and recording. And that's Okay. His choice to make. He's not signed a Lifetime "contract" with Led Zeppelin.

    There will be no Led Zeppelin Reunion gig(s).

    The O2 concert was Robert's Swan Song as a performing and recording member of Led Zeppelin.

    And without the unique voice of Robert Plant....There can be no "Led Zeppelin."

    All some can now hope for is the best version of a Led Zeppelin show, vis a vis the "Australian Pink Floyd." But still.... no Robert Plant, unless advanced technology can someday allow anyone to appear to sing like the Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin.

     

     

  9. 4 hours ago, SteveZ98 said:

    Thanks. It's a really good show. The thing I love about the '77 soundboards is that you can hear the crowd react to the band coming on stage. I can just imagine what that was like. You get to the arena early because you don't want to miss a second of this experience, find your seats, talk with your buddies about how great the show is going to be. There's no opening act and you're stuck watching all the freaks walking around, maybe covertly lighting up something to make the show more enjoyable, listening  to whatever songs the soundboard guy feels like playing through the PA. You check your watch. The show was supposed to start at 8:00 PM. You've heard that Zep is always late, but you're still getting anxious for them to get started. Then the lights go down. The crowd roars. Bonzo gives a couple beats on his kick drum and they pound through your chest, then Jimmy hits a couple of test cords and you realize this is going to be brutally loud. Finally, you can see their silhouettes as they walk onto center stage. There they are, Led F@#$ing Zeppelin. You're on your feet. Everybody's going nuts. Jimmy starts The Song Remains The Same and it's on, three of the best hours of your life have just begun. Man, what I wouldn't give to have been able to experience that in person. 

    Some artists have included buildups on their live recordings.

    Grand Funk Railroad did. I remember the great build up to Footstompin' Music from the 1975 Caught In The Act LP. I say LP, because in the weird world of CD releases, they lengthened a few songs, but... to do that, they cut short the lead up to "Footstompin' Music" to keep the release on one CD !!

    From Wiki: The 2003 re-mastered version of this release has a total time of 79:08, and was squeezed down to one disc. The 2:47 "Introduction" is gone, but "T.N.U.C" and "Gimme Shelter" are lengthened. Audience interaction and applause is shortened throughout to compensate.

    The crowd roar lead up to the 1977 Tampa Stadium show is legendary. (That show stopped short because of torrential rain. I guess the band didn't have a "wireless" option for their outdoor gigs in 1977... tsk tsk).

    I remember well what happened in Houston in 1977 when the house lights went down. Most everyone on the floor, except for maybe the first 5 rows or so, stood... on their chairs... Quite a forest... for me to easily run through!!! Which is exactly what I did, after jumping down to the floor from the lodge seating area. I easily made my way all the way to the 3rd row back from the stage, in the center section, to an isle seat that hadn't been taken by it's rightful owner yet... A group of about 4 rich young groupies were sitting in front of me. For whatever reason, one of the young things was holding up sideways, toward the stage, the center fold of a Men's Magazine, Playboy perhaps.

    The guitar sound coming off the stage monitors was beyond intense.

     

    There's a feeling I get
    When I look to the west
    And my spirit is crying for leaving
    In my thoughts I have seen
    Rings of smoke through the trees
    And the voices of those who standing looking

  10. 6 hours ago, porgie66 said:

    Incredible! Can you share your memories of that experience? Maybe in a new thread? 

    5 hours ago, IpMan said:

    Yes, give us the scoop, the skinny, the 411 !!! From what I have heard this was actually a pretty damn fine show, then again, my sources were likely stoned out of their gourd at the time.

    Anyway, for a "live rehearsal", 24-7-79 was one of their top 10 shows and the best show post-77'.

    5 hours ago, Boleskinner said:

    Were there cameras there?

    I've posted previously on this forum that a source, close to SHOWCO, told me he viewed 20-minutes of high quality rehearsal footage from 1977.

    Come on guys... I said that tongue-in-cheek.

    April 1st was the first date of their rescheduled NA Tour.

    They were rusty, Page not having picked up a guitar for month.

    So it was "like" a dress rehearsal. It was a very "average" performance --- for Led Zeppelin....

    Plant even jokingly said at one point... "Welcome to our rehearsal!"

    Cameras... No, at the April 1st gig, there no cameras... Just Neal Preston snapping photos, for the '77 Tour Book that would be printed a little later.

    When the band all came out front for the acoustic set, and started Battle of Evermore, the volume for Jimmy's guitar wasn't loud enough. I yelled out from my 10th row seat "LOUDER"... and then once again, "LOUDER." I then saw Robert look to his right, and motion with his right hand, index finger pointed up, to raise Jimmy's volume. And Jimmy's guitar volume was raised.

    I believe the band rehearsed in England before the expected start of the '77 tour, originally due to being on Feb. 27th in Ft. Worth.

    I saw the rescheduled Ft. Worth and Houston shows, and they were no rehearsals. They were both excellent shows to be at!!

  11. On 2/2/2016 at 2:15 AM, Nutrocker said:

    The band probably disregarded -or forgot- about the Copenhagen gigs because they considered them to be live rehearsals, and not necessarily the 'intimate club gigs' us fans consider them to be.

    I attended a live dress rehearsal once.... in Dallas, on April 1st, 1977.

  12. On 12/11/2015 at 12:38 AM, Nutrocker said:

    Give me the July 24 '79 Copenhagen show over either of the Knebworth performances any day of the week, and twice on Sundays!

    LFZ !!!!

    A future release, sometime in the next 10 years!! Hope so.

  13. On 1/29/2018 at 12:31 PM, gibsonfan159 said:

    Wasn't the 75 tour supposed to be a sort of "greatest hits" tour? Plant always introduced the shows as "The best of the old and the new". I think the 75 tour was an overdone attempt to turn the band into a circus act and take advantage of their status at the time. Very ironic that Page's playing took a dive and Robert's voice was blown. The shows just don't do justice to all the photos and posing lol.

    Which '75 shows did you you see in person?

    Otherwise, your opinion is useless.

    I was at several of the '75 shows, and my opinion is the opposite of yours.

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  14. I think Satan was the source of the trouble.

    He was jealous of something ... But no sympathy for him.

    Recording and filming may have been planned for the end of Summer dates.

    Some one did not want the absolute greatness of Led Zeppelin in 1975 to be documented for the world to see and have that standard of excellence to live under...

     

     

     

     

  15. On 1/20/2018 at 5:39 PM, gibsonfan159 said:

    I think that's it exactly. You seem to like the more expressive, epic journey solos. I'm more impressed by Page when he's on point with technique (I.E. SIBLY MSG 73). Page just got a little too loose for me after 73.

    If you don't  mind my asking, what are some other solos from 77 that you could recommend that would hammer home your taste for his playing (I promise I won't critique the shit out of them lol)?

    The 6-22-77, the soloing itself is fine... but... there's this "in the groove" thing, that I like better with the '73 MSG/TSRTS version. I just didn't catch that in '77 performance. Blame Jonesy ?? I don't know...

     

  16. On 12/22/2017 at 8:08 AM, The Only Way To Fly said:

    Do you think JP will offer signed copies for four-hundred pounds again? 

     

    All three are collaborating... so maybe $1000 for the signed limited edition Deluxe version.

    Other books published by this company have both a (limited) Deluxe Edition $950, and, a Master Edition for $49.

    A softback edition would do for me. :)

    There's an "art" to the sizing and presentation of any picture used in a book.

    We'll se how "art" worthy this presentation is...

  17. On 2/7/2010 at 1:40 PM, Squeeze My Lemons said:

    I don't think there is a better performance than from TSRTS album. It may even be the best performance of any song by them.

    Over --all-- other versions of SIBLY, TSTRS is the one I enjoy listening to the most, because of the purity of the audio, and Jimmy's soloing.

    That's what makes that version so heavenly and mesmerizing to me. The audience 'noise' on most boots distracts me.

    The intro is stunning. I'm a Page fan first and foremost, so I can easily overlook this not being Robert's best ever live performance, with regard to vocal range, etc.. A good/very good overall performance, though, from my point of view. But as some have already stated, Robert never exceeded his vocal range on the studio performance of SIBLY in a live setting. I much prefer Jimmy's live performances to the studio one.

    I am shocked that they wouldn't find a way to release the TSRTS as a three album set, to give their public this SIBLY on record. There had already been 3 and 4 disc live sets successfully released by other bands. So whomever nixed the 3 album set, you were wrong! But hey, it only took 30 years to correct the error...

    Best performance of any song on record???

    I'll have to go with the O2 "Kashmir". I know there's no Bonzo, but, it takes me back to the 1977 US Tour, where, imo, "Kashmir" was the show stopper, better than any other Zeppelin song I ever experienced in person.

     

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