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tmtomh

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  1. tmtomh

    Yardbirds Live and Rare

    It's Repertoire, so there's at least a 50-50 chance that the sound quality will suck - compressed and harsh.
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    Did Presence have a bad mix?

    I'm with @bluecongo, @John M, and @Strider on this one. Presence sounds astringent, to be sure, but that's clearly by design. And it doesn't sound muddy or muffled, nor to my ears is the mix bad. From a technical standpoint (which I freely admit is not the only or even primary metric to evaluate the feel of a Zep album), Presence might actually be the best sounding album in the catalogue. The clean quality of its mix and sound is rivaled only by the first album. (Again, not saying Presence is the most sonically satisfying album.) As for the vocals, they are indeed thin on most of the tracks (except perhaps Tea for One). But that's probably because Plant was in a body cast and singing from a chair - that will rob your voice of some dynamism and make it sound thinner and reedier. And just as Page used Plant's voice to full advantage in the past - Plant sounds like he's gargling battery acid on "Sick Again,:" and his voice is actually quite thin on Custard Pie and Kashmir - he clearly worked with it on Presence too, capturing the vulnerability and isolation the band felt as injured tax exiles stuck in a Munich studio. Or maybe it's as simple as Houses of the Holy being a Jack Daniels type of album while Presence is a coke or heroin album. Who knows. I would hate for all nine albums to sound and feel like Presence. But I'd hate every album to sound and feel like Zep II as well. As a unique one-off in their catalogue, Presence is electrifying and really intense - even the fun songs sound closed-in and ominous. It's a pretty tight, cohesive statement.
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    06-25-1977 Recordings

    I like Winston's Mike the Mike series for this date.
  4. tmtomh

    The Crunge - Best Live Version

    Isn't the 3-19-75 Vancouver one pretty good and nearly complete? Or am I misremembering?
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    Best Version of Black Dog Ever Played

    I've always liked the version from the 7-24-79 second Copenhagen warm-up show for Knebworth. Bootleg source of course, but a very good audience tape.
  6. tmtomh

    Backing Vocals on Thank You

    It's Page.
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    Best version of Copenhagan 5-3-71?

    Yep, that's the one.
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    Original Celebration Day on TSRTS Cassette

    Yes, the Heywood version is fantastic and my go-to as well. He put in the proper Celebration Day solo, uses the original No Quarter with the crucial 2-1/2 minutes that were cut from the 2007 version, creates a never-before-done 18-minute version of Whole Lotta Love by adding in stuff from the DVD menus, and adds on a soundboard-sourced version of the final organ solo-Thank You encore played on the final night of the three-night run. It's fantastic. RE the 1976 cassette and LP, yes, they have the identical tracks and edits, as do all LP, cassette and CD versions that came out prior to the 2007 re-do.
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    Original Celebration Day on TSRTS Cassette

    Yes, the original Celebration Day outro solo is on all the original, 9-track versions of the album (CD, LP, cassette, etc.). The 2007 expanded/redone version swaps in a different outro solo on that song, taken from one of the other two nights of the band's three-night run from which the concert album audio was produced. The new 2018 remaster has the identical audio edits/content to the 2007. One of the reasons Celebration Day could have such a major, wholesale change in its content is that most of the song doesn't appear in the original movie - so except for the very beginning of the song, Page and his collaborators have been free to do whatever they want with the audio. And yes, the original solo is better!
  10. https://www.discogs.com/Led-Zeppelin-The-Soundtrack-From-The-Film-The-Song-Remains-The-Same/release/12483643
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    Berkeley (Going to California)

    Dadgad's 2010 24/96 vinyl rip is my go-to. Godfather's is nice, but dadgad's is a little better IMHO.
  12. Yes, this is going to be epic. An incredible amount of work, and a great gift to the community. Thank you!
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    "Alternate Box set 2", anyone know it?

    Yes, Steve is correct. Also, the Crunge/Lickin' Stick bit is part of a Whole Lotta Love medley live performance, and so will not be on any studio-outtake collection. It is available on many live bootlegs, although it sounds as if the version you have is something Unkeljimbo might have custom-made as a standalone-type track, perhaps with by fading in and out of the Whole Lotta Love medley. As for a studio-outtake collection, the Antrabata 11-disc set is cool but it's two generations out of date. Scorpio released a 12-disc set that is based on the Antrabata but uses some upgrades sources and rounds up some additional odds and ends. And then in 2013, Godfather put out Studio Magik, an 18-disc set that again upgrades a few sources, and rounds up some additional material (including the Zep II multitracks that had leaked by that time). So if you're searching out a one-stop studio outtakes, demos, etc set, the Godfather Studio Magik is the one. There are some additional and/or better-sounding bits and pieces that have surfaced since 2013 - and a few of the items came out in pristine quality in the 2014/15 official reissue campaign - but Studio Magik remains the best overall outtakes comp.
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    The Lemon Song (studio)

    The band often were - or at least strove to be- heavier live than in-studio. At the risk of overgeneralizing, in the early years that live extra heaviness sometimes took the form of increased speed for a more intense, frenzied impact (Lemon Song/Killing Floor, and of course Communication Breakdown, come to mind); in the latter years that heaviness sometimes took the form of slowing things down, for a more menacing impact (some instances of In My Time of Dying and Sick Again come to mind). I would guess nerves might have played a part in it, and perhaps also the "young and hungry" early phase vs the "confident and swaggering" later phase. At any rate, I would guess that "That's the Way" is the earliest example of full-on speed manipulation on a Zep album, yes?
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