So Chase are you saying because of the Page/JPJ studio knowledge and Page being a Producer that Zeppelin had more artistic control than The Who? Or was it at the time that Zep formed. Bands had more artistic control in 1969 than in the early 60's.

Funny that Moon and Bonahm are both revered as the best drummers of rock and roll along with Neil Piert of Rush. Even bands that are supposed to be the big Rock/Roll bands like the Beatles and Stones. Their Drummers are not as influencial as B/M/P.

I guess with Zeppelin its a journey. The Who its more a specticle. Like when is PT going to break his guitar. For me. Zep have songs within songs for the most part. HMMTimes and Dazed have a more layered song structure. The Who structure is more poppy. I guess its like this with most classic bands. When they first start they have pop melodies in their songs. Later they come into their identity. For me Zep maintained their ID from Zep 1 to Pressence and then went poppy on ITTOD.

Everyone knows I like a VS post. Anyways whats the difference in your mind between the two? I used the Who to vs Zep in the sense that both bands are on par with each other in the popular culture when it comes to Rock and Roll. To me The Who were more standing up to the man and had more of a political bent to thier music. Zeppelin were more about getting laid and more the sexual side of love/Mysitcal adventures. THe Who seemed to be more about bashing the music into the listener head, much like punk. Zeppelin had light and shape. More mysticle in thier approch where you wondered how could they do that with guitar. I will express more later. I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I feel like Zeps legacy is intact. The Who just don't seem as powerfull on stage when I see them. Or in my mind they have not aged well.

Ginger is coming off like a bitter old man. Why bother trash them. Bonzo and Moon always come up as the #1 and 2 in world wide best rock drummers. Along with Neil Piert from Rush. Bonzo's playing suited Zeppelin, thats why the reforms have always been hard because Bonzo added a lot of color to Zep. Think about how hip hop has taken his beats to the next level.

I was just surfing around the net. Do you think that Zeppelin is Psychedelic and if so what songs would they be. One person said that only Led Zep 1 was a Psychedelic album What do you think? For me. I say songs like DC/HMMT/YTIGC. To me anything that is Psychedelic has to have this cosmic cloud feeling. It has to be long and jam orientated and at least 6 to 8 minutes long. Long guitar solos and various sounds. Almost like taking the guitar and bass and making them sound like organs.

I got hooked on Zep with the song Rock & Roll. It was the ending that I liked. LZ are my favorite band of all time and I like every song. The riffs and the dynamics in the band and the way they change things up live. No other band has been able to do that to me. James Brown is the closest that comes close to tying them in terms of rival artists. When the levee breaks is my all time LZ song.

My review. It was one of the best concerts I have ever seen. I hope Jason comes out with a CD/MP3/DVD of this tour. I hate the song Thank you. Somehow when I head it with the clips. I teared up. I am not a crier by any stretch. I thought that the song selection was excellent. Jason took the Mystical aspects of Zeppelin and created a set list that was awesome. I went to that concert on 3 hrs sleep and had to work nights at the hospital. I sucked in every moment of it. I liked that fact that Jason had some class and was not swearing his head off like Motley Crew. As it stands now. Zep is my favorite band of all time. Only rivaled by James Brown. I wish that Jason would continue this as a regular thing. I would go every year. I hope he mixes up the set list. highlights for me were. When the Levee breaks. The Lemon song. Babe IGLY. Immigrant song. Even Stairway was done great. I am surpised that Zep did not play WTLB. Jason did a great job with that one.

I like Robert's vocals from Sunshine baby and I gotta move. Both are Zep bootleg songs. I also like the Lemon Song. Anything where Robert is grooving. I like. Mc7

Heart is that band that got me into Zeppelin. I am 38, I grew up with Heart being a major part of my teenage music lifestyle. They are the female Zeppelin. The only thing that is the differnece between Heart and Zep, is that Heart does not Jam in thier sets currently, they play by the numbers. Only in the 70's did they Jam a lot. Heart can really ride a heavy groove when they want to. Just because they are girls, don't mean that they can't rock. Devlis Delight is thier take on When the Levee breaks. Barracuda is bassically the child of ALStand and Immigrant Song. Crazy on you is Babe IGL you. Magic Man is FYLife, BeBe Le Strange is Kashmir/Black Dog. Ann Wilson is the Female Robert Plant, just As Stevie Nicks is the female Rod Stewert. Nancy Wilson is the female Jimmy Page on Acoustics. Nancy does not do the crazy solos electrically like Page does. She would be more like Malcom Young from AcDc. If you get a chance, see them. They really put on a great set. Heart standout songs are Barracuda, Crazy on you, Magic Man. Mc7

My take on both bands is that AcDc is pure Rock and Roll. Led Zeppelin is more Rock and Soul. AcDc is like a Drag Race or Nascar. LZ is Formula 1 Racing. As I have said before. If you want pure adenalin. Then listen to AcDc. If you want more variety and moods and want to feel that you have gone on a Journey, then Zep is your best bet. Mc7

I love both bands. I think that they are both different tastes. I think that AcDc are Cheeseburgers and Fries with Coke. Led Zep are gourmet meal with Red/White wine. To do an objective take on both bands, we need to look at the band members. AcDc Bon Scott, has a voice of a criminal mastermind. He is more bad boy than Robert Plant. He is like a storyteller that sings. He has a lot of attitude, but he can't really do any vocal gymnastics. AcDc Brian Johnson sound like a wearwolf. He sound like he is howling away, but he can't sustain his vocal bar. Angus Young is like Chuck Berry on Crack or being electricuted. He has a lot of adenaline in his riffs and lead solos. I can feel everyone of his licks. He has a real great sense of playing his lines great. Its almost like he is a great actor with cool lines. Every single solo from Angus young fits well. Malcom Young is like his brother except that he stays on point with his riffs that just bash you in the head. The Drummer and Basist just stay on course and have great rhythem. They are steady and strong and don't do anything fancy. On to Zep. Jimmy Page is a great guitarist. He is versatyle and he can twist his guitar inside out. He also makes his guitar like a magic wand. Robert Plant vocals are mystical, he can stretch his vocals and his lyrics have great feel to them. JPJ is a versatyle player with a great sense of funk and soul in his playing in a understated way. Bonzo is a Gorilla on the hunt and can make his drums sound like a tribal warriors ready to battle. In my assesment. AcDc rocks hard all the time, but they have less great songs as a whole. Zep has better songs, but they don't have to go crazy and nuts like AcDc. Its hard to say who is the best. If you want veraiety then its Zep. If you want non stop adenalin then its AcDc. If they were both movies. Then Zep is Lord of the Rings. AcDc is Crank. Mc7

Yes another question. Is Zeppelin a Super Group and what is a Super Group? To me some band are not Super Groups. AcDc is not a Super Group. Neither are the Stones. The Who are. Judas Priest are. I define a Super Group as each member of the band does more than keep the beat. Thier personalities are so dynamic that they influnce others groups as well. For example. Ginger Baker-Cream/KMoon- The Who/ LZ-Bonzo are more or less on the same level. People always reference thier drumming style. They are not on the same level as RStones-CWatts and the Beatles-Ringo Starr. The Beatles are great song writers, but live they can't touch the magic of Zep. The Who/Hendrix/Cream/Sabbath are the only ones that could rival them live. Mc7