Random Thoughts. The Return.

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For what it's worth. (Isn't that an old song?) 

 

 

[PinkyToe]

 

[SteveAJones]

19 hours ago, rm2551 said:

I find it hard to believe you are not being the ultimate comedian here Steve. If no, wow...

I'd bet it is not enough to offset all those women (and family men for that matter) that are simply not on the abolish Roe train, not to mention pop culture endorsements which almost always mean nil, but might have a bit of an impact given Swift is pretty much the biggest cult like figure in US culture atm. 400,000 registrations to vote after she sent that message. That will translate into some edge for the dems.

Make no mistake, there are plenty of conservative voters who hold their nose as they vote for Trump. He's not fiscally conservative, and many don't appreciate his unconventional style.

The single-issue voters (abortion) aren't going to vote for Trump regardless because they tend to be dyed in the wool Democrats who reside in blue states. Sensible and rational people understand all the Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade did was put abortion law at the state level where it has always belonged anyway. Personally, I couldn't care less about the pro-abortion voters because they've gone from "Abortion should be rare, safe and legal" to "Abortion should be on demand at anytime, anywhere and taxpayers should fund it".  

[rm2551]

5 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

the Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade did was put abortion law at the state level where it has always belonged anyway.

Such a divisive and important (can't get more more fundamental really) issue resides with the states? My retort is, that is like saying leave slavery up to the states.

Some things need a "ok, here is the law, THE END" kind of approach. Abortion is one of those things. It should be a law of the land decision at the federal level.

Respect Steve, that you think it is not a federal issue, I disagree.

[SteveAJones]

17 hours ago, rm2551 said:

Such a divisive and important (can't get more fundamental really) issue resides with the states? My retort is, that is like saying leave slavery up to the states.

Some things need a "ok, here is the law, THE END" kind of approach. Abortion is one of those things. It should be a law of the land decision at the federal level.

Respect Steve, that you think it is not a federal issue, I disagree.

State sovereignty over matters of family, life and health is rooted in the Constitution. Congress has only the powers expressly delegated to it by the people in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution — powers to maintain the security and prosperity of the nation. All other powers are reserved by the 10th Amendment to the states and the people. James Madison explained in Federalist 45: “The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people.” Those powers exclusive to the states certainly include the definition and regulation of abortion and marriage.

[PinkyToe]

1 hour ago, SteveAJones said:

State sovereignty over matters of family, life and health is rooted in the Constitution. Congress has only the powers expressly delegated to it by the people in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution — powers to maintain the security and prosperity of the nation. All other powers are reserved by the 10th Amendment to the states and the people. James Madison explained in Federalist 45: “The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people.” Those powers exclusive to the states certainly include the definition and regulation of abortion and marriage.

All due respect, the Constitution also said All Men Are Created Equal which was a bold faced lie, only white, land owning males were allowed to vote and offered full rights under law. Right from the beginning the document was both flawed and a lie. Jefferson himself said a full Continental Congress should be held every 19 years to review and amend the Constitution to reflect the zeitgeist. The other founding fathers agreed as they knew the document was both flawed and required revision with the evolution of the nation. These were 18th century men doing the best they could under the context of the times, yet they had the foresight to understand this was only the beginning of a long journey, times change, we learn and improve, that is the whole point. This is a living document, not some holy writ set in stone.

[SteveAJones]

39 minutes ago, PinkyToe said:

All due respect, the Constitution also said All Men Are Created Equal which was a bold faced lie, only white, land owning males were allowed to vote and offered full rights under law. Right from the beginning the document was both flawed and a lie. Jefferson himself said a full Continental Congress should be held every 19 years to review and amend the Constitution to reflect the zeitgeist. The other founding fathers agreed as they knew the document was both flawed and required revision with the evolution of the nation. These were 18th century men doing the best they could under the context of the times, yet they had the foresight to understand this was only the beginning of a long journey, times change, we learn and improve, that is the whole point. This is a living document, not some holy writ set in stone.

When Thomas Jefferson penned “all men are created equal,” in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence (not the US Constitution), he did not mean individual equality, says historian Jack Rakove. Rather, what the Continental Congress declared on July 4, 1776 was that American colonists, as a people, had the same rights to self-government as other nations.

If you can concede that Roe v. Wade was a preposterous legal ruling, a fabrication of the right to abortion out of nothing, I can concede that the SCOTUS ruling overturning it with a determination that abortion is not considered a fundamental right protected by the Constitution because the Constitution does not make any mention of abortion is likewise preposterous. Meanwhile, it is up to the states to decide abortion legislation. 

Personally, I am what is traditionally called pro-life. That said, I also understand the hardships imposed by abortion bans at the state level. With collective understanding that abortion should be "rare, safe and legal" I'm open to a new federal law to resolve the issue. However, I'll never support legislation or a SCOTUS ruling that establishes "the right to an abortion on demand at any time for any reason" nor unrestricted federal funding for them.

Edited Sunday at 05:51 AM by SteveAJones

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Again. Fuck YouTube. 

[Strider]

6 hours ago, redrum said:

Again. Fuck YouTube. 

What's happening?

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3 hours ago, Strider said:

What's happening?

When I watch a video the sound always cuts out and then the sound track gets thrown off. It's like watching the worst Italian movie ever made. 

That and their blatant censorship which everyone complains about. 

[SteveAJones]

5 hours ago, redrum said:

When I watch a video the sound always cuts out and then the sound track gets thrown off.

 

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2 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

 

I'll give it a shot. 

[PinkyToe]

22 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

When Thomas Jefferson penned “all men are created equal,” in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence (not the US Constitution), he did not mean individual equality, says historian Jack Rakove. Rather, what the Continental Congress declared on July 4, 1776 was that American colonists, as a people, had the same rights to self-government as other nations.

If you can concede that Roe v. Wade was a preposterous legal ruling, a fabrication of the right to abortion out of nothing, I can concede that the SCOTUS ruling overturning it with a determination that abortion is not considered a fundamental right protected by the Constitution because the Constitution does not make any mention of abortion is likewise preposterous. Meanwhile, it is up to the states to decide abortion legislation. 

Personally, I am what is traditionally called pro-life. That said, I also understand the hardships imposed by abortion bans at the state level. With collective understanding that abortion should be "rare, safe and legal" I'm open to a new federal law to resolve the issue. However, I'll never support legislation or a SCOTUS ruling that establishes "the right to an abortion on demand at any time for any reason" nor unrestricted federal funding for them.

I am not here to talk politics, or talk about medical procedures which should only be between a woman and her doctor. Last time I checked I was not god. I was simply pointing out the fact the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence for the Constitution itself was a lie, based on a lie which it was. Words have meaning, actual definitions which are established and cannot be disputed. There is no spin, they wrote what they wrote and toward a singular purpose, to establish a nation whereby full and total control would be held by white, land holding males exclusively. You cannot state All Men are Created Equal, and then claim it means something else. Those are direct words which cannot be disputed. 

If those in power were truly sincere and honest they would have called for a continental congress a very long time ago, and did so every 19 years as Jefferson intended. Maybe then we could have an honest document which reflects changes in society, and not some antiquated 18th century extended writ of which the Founders themselves said and believed was flawed.

Let me ask you this, would you rather build an automobile manufacturing plant based on late 19th century designs, or would you prefer a contemporary plan?

 

[PinkyToe]

9 hours ago, redrum said:

When I watch a video the sound always cuts out and then the sound track gets thrown off. It's like watching the worst Italian movie ever made. 

That and their blatant censorship which everyone complains about. 

I enjoy streaming the Zep boots on YouTube, and my dark, doomer jazz playlist well into the witching hour most nights. Those damn ads though, some every three or four minutes can get the blood boiling. Breaks up the mood man. I will not buy any their wares or services, I just want to relax and enter a state of deep contemplation and meditation. This commercialism is a real bummer.

[SteveAJones]

47 minutes ago, PinkyToe said:

I was simply pointing out the fact the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence for the Constitution itself was a lie, based on a lie which it was. Words have meaning, actual definitions which are established and cannot be disputed. There is no spin, they wrote what they wrote and toward a singular purpose, to establish a nation whereby full and total control would be held by white, land holding males exclusively. You cannot state All Men are Created Equal, and then claim it means something else. Those are direct words which cannot be disputed. 

If those in power were truly sincere and honest they would have called for a continental congress a very long time ago, and did so every 19 years as Jefferson intended. Maybe then we could have an honest document which reflects changes in society, and not some antiquated 18th century extended writ of which the Founders themselves said and believed was flawed.

Let me ask you this, would you rather build an automobile manufacturing plant based on late 19th century designs, or would you prefer a contemporary plan?

Your community college education is showing by posing a question so insipid. There is already a process whereby the Constitution can be amended to reflect societal change. I suggest following that process, lest we instead adopt whatever "contemporary plan" some Leftist politician that you undoubtedly support wants to impose upon all of us. In closing for now, as a by the way, non-property-holding white males could vote in the vast majority of states as early as 1828. Today the right to vote has long since been extended to nearly all citizens.     

[SteveAJones]

53 minutes ago, PinkyToe said:

I enjoy streaming the Zep boots on YouTube, and my dark, doomer jazz playlist well into the witching hour most nights. Those damn ads though, some every three or four minutes can get the blood boiling. Breaks up the mood man. I will not buy any their wares or services, I just want to relax and enter a state of deep contemplation and meditation. This commercialism is a real bummer.

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6 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

 

I didn't do everything in the video, but so far so good. Thanks for the tip. 

[PinkyToe]

9 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

Your community college education is showing by posing a question so insipid. There is already a process whereby the Constitution can be amended to reflect societal change. I suggest following that process, lest we instead adopt whatever "contemporary plan" some Leftist politician that you undoubtedly support wants to impose upon all of us. In closing for now, as a by the way, non-property-holding white males could vote in the vast majority of states as early as 1828. Today the right to vote has long since been extended to nearly all citizens.     

You seem to have an issue with basic civility and decorum which is a shame. You also missed the point which was rather obvious. 

 

[SteveAJones]

16 hours ago, PinkyToe said:

You also missed the point which was rather obvious. 

No, YOU missed the point. There is a process to amend the US Constitution. 

[rm2551]

On 9/23/2024 at 2:29 PM, PinkyToe said:

I enjoy streaming the Zep boots on YouTube, and my dark, doomer jazz playlist well into the witching hour most nights. Those damn ads though, some every three or four minutes can get the blood boiling. Breaks up the mood man. I will not buy any their wares or services, I just want to relax and enter a state of deep contemplation and meditation. This commercialism is a real bummer.

I've had the uBlock Origin extension in chrome forever (desktop at home). I have not seen a YouTube ad in over a decade.

Also, the Brave browser automatically blocks Youtube ads. I use it on my tablet so I never get annoyed by ads. it's free and light weight, I find it useful for blocking YT ads.

[rm2551]

On 9/22/2024 at 1:32 PM, SteveAJones said:

State sovereignty over matters of family, life and health is rooted in the Constitution. Congress has only the powers expressly delegated to it by the people in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution — powers to maintain the security and prosperity of the nation. All other powers are reserved by the 10th Amendment to the states and the people. James Madison explained in Federalist 45: “The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people.” Those powers exclusive to the states certainly include the definition and regulation of abortion and marriage.

For abortion rights, I stick by my view it makes more sense for it to be a law of the land, but that is good to know.

Cheers.

[Strider]

It was cringeworthy already in 1998 when Jimmy Page appeared with Puff Daddy (aka Diddy) on Saturday Night Live for that horrible "Godzilla" song. Now, it really looks bad.