dragster Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I'd like to know more on Led Zep and any collaboration they had with Fairport Convention's Sandy Denny. I feel I've missed out on something here. Thanx in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunn Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 To the best of my knowledge, the only work she ever did with Zeppelin was on The Battle Of Evermore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny_rock Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Yeah!! I also would like to know more about this topic. I dont know a lot about her... probably I don't know anything!! haha The only thing I am sure, is that she [is she right? ] worked with Led Zep.. But.. In what way she collaborated with them? Who exactly was SandyDenny.. And why she made her own sign? >> Ny << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Mmmhhhhh, could be........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunn Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 She was the second lead singer of Fairport Convention, left Fairport to form her own band, Fotheringay , along with her boyfriend , and then went on to a solo career. She died in 1978 (?) of a cerebral hemmorhage after falling down a flight of stairs. It was speculated that her drug and alcohol addiction might have lead to the fall, but I think the family was pretty adept at covering that up. She was also the only outside musician to work with Zeppelin on an album. The story goes (at least the ones I've heard) is that she found Pageys perfectionist more than alittle frustrating wrt recording TBOE, so as a reward for her patience and hard work, she too was given a symbol on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 She was also the only outside musician to work with Zeppelin on an album. Tell that to Ian "Boogie with Stu" Stuart, or the guy who played tabla on the first album, or the string section that did Kashmir... Fairport bassist Dave Pegg is an old friend of Plant & Bonham from the midlands music scene, so there was a personal link between the bands as well as musical admiration. Fairport recorded a live album in LA at a gig attended by members of Zep & there was some jamming & messing around, but IIRC it didn't make the album. Fairport host an annual music festival at Cropredy in Oxfordshire, which Plant has appeared at a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunn Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Tell that to Ian "Boogie with Stu" Stuart, or the guy who played tabla on the first album, or the string section that did Kashmir... Totally forgot about Ian Stewart. I didn't even know about the guy who played tabla on the first album. I just assumed it was Jonesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Thank you for all the cool info here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny_rock Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 She was the second lead singer of Fairport Convention, left Fairport to form her own band, Fotheringay , along with her boyfriend , and then went on to a solo career. She died in 1978 (?) of a cerebral hemmorhage after falling down a flight of stairs. It was speculated that her drug and alcohol addiction might have lead to the fall, but I think the family was pretty adept at covering that up. She was also the only outside musician to work with Zeppelin on an album. The story goes (at least the ones I've heard) is that she found Pageys perfectionist more than alittle frustrating wrt recording TBOE, so as a reward for her patience and hard work, she too was given a symbol on the album. Thanks alot! you've saved me from ignorance! hehe The information is very interesting! Now I know a little more about my favorite band! ..but which was the song she recorded with Led? Her voice is reached to listen?? >>Ny << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarine Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thanks alot! you've saved me from ignorance! hehe The information is very interesting! Now I know a little more about my favorite band! ..but which was the song she recorded with Led? Her voice is reached to listen?? >>Ny << It was The Battle of Evermore, on IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z88 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 She was the second lead singer of Fairport Convention, left Fairport to form her own band, Fotheringay , along with her boyfriend , and then went on to a solo career. She died in 1978 (?) of a cerebral hemmorhage after falling down a flight of stairs. It was speculated that her drug and alcohol addiction might have lead to the fall, but I think the family was pretty adept at covering that up. She was also the only outside musician to work with Zeppelin on an album. The story goes (at least the ones I've heard) is that she found Pageys perfectionist more than alittle frustrating wrt recording TBOE, so as a reward for her patience and hard work, she too was given a symbol on the album. I don't know her symbol, can anybody show me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minelle Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I don't know her symbol, can anybody show me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z88 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Tnks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanx for me too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z88 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Anyone knows what her symbol means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Id like to know that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Some facts for other Sandy Denny fans here,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Dear all, the other day I was reading Harry Shapiro's 1999 book 'Waiting for the Man. The Story of Drugs and Popular Music' (excellent book btw!) and was very surprised to see an advertisement for Pam Winters' biography in it. There was a small picture (3x4,5cm) of the intended cover and the following text: 'Solo: A Biography of Sandy Denny by Pamela Winters. Due in August 256 pages ISBN 1-900924 11 0 Sandy Denny became famous as the distinctive singer of Fairport Convention, and later with Fotheringay, as well as releasing four highly acclaimed solo albums. Melody Maker voted her best female singer in 1970 and 1971. But like many of the great musical artists of the seventies, she took refuge in drink and drugs. Sandy Denny died 20 years ago in mysterious circumstances, and this is the first ever Biography. US music journalist Pam Winters has had unprecedented access to Sandy's personal papers. She has interviewed at length all those who were close to her, to produce an illuminating portrait of one of the great English singers.' note: the ISBN is the same as Heylin's book; the intended cover is an outtake from the North Star cover photo sessions. best wishes Jaap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Here's some other SD info (Plant mentiion........!)...... A Little Bit More 'Zep. Plant has given a slew of interviews about his collaboration with Alison Krauss. I was looking around to see if he ever mentioned Sandy in any of them and found this from The Age (a Melbourne paper?) on 30 November: "I could tell by [Alison's] intonation and by the choices of material that I was exposed to that there was common ground," he says. "A lot of the material that she may have leant upon wouldn't be a million miles away from the stuff that (English folk-rock pioneer) Sandy Denny was playing me years ago, some of the more traditional, archaic British folk music." On an unrelated matter: there was a horse called "Sandy Denny" running in the 3.40 at Ludlow yesterday. Now if I were a betting man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 .................more Sandy Denny photos.....enjoy!! Sandy's daughter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 For all those interested...................... Sandy Denny - The Attic Tracks - Vol. 1 (cassette) I had sort of promised to give more details on the songs on the Atic Tracks. Here they are Volume 1: Moments Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / Rendez-Vous / A Box Full Of Treasures All Our Days Sandy Denny Unique Still Waters Run Deep Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / Rendez-Vous The King And Queen Of England Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks No End Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / A Box Full Of Treasures Easy To Slip Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / Rendez-Vous / A Box Full Of Treasures Losing Game Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / The North Star Grassman And The Ravens Full Moon Sandy Denny Unique All Our Days Sandy Denny Unique Fiddlestix Fairport Convention #73 Fairport UnConventioNal Girls On The Avenue Trevor Lucas The Attic Tracks Here In Silence Sandy Denny Sandy / No More Sad Refrains / A Box Full Of Treasures Man Of Iron Sandy Denny Sandy / No More Sad Refrains The Devil In The Kitchen Fairport Convention #73 Single / Fairport Nine / Fiddlestix Possibly Parsons Green Fairport Convention #73 Single / Fairport Nine / Fiddlestix White Dress Fairport Convention #74 Single / The Attic Tracks / Rising For The Moon Tears Fairport Convention #75b Single / Rising For The Moon / A Box Full Of Treasures / Fiddlestix / Meet On The Ledge You Never Know Charlie Drake Unique Still Waters Run Deep (again) Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / Rendez-Vous Who Knows Where The Time Goes Lonnie Donegan Unique Who Knows Where The Time Goes Judy Collins Unique Peace In The End Keith Cross/Peter Ross Unique Theme From Catlow Jerry Donahue Single Luisa Jerry Donahue Single Volume 2: The Plainsman Trevor Lucas Unique The Sun Never Shines On The Poor Trevor Lucas Unique Marijuana Australiana Trevor Lucas Unique Far From Me Trevor Lucas Unique Factory Man Trevor Lucas Unique That Lucky Old Sun Trevor Lucas Unique No Accounting Cowboy Trevor Lucas Unique Song Of The Stars Trevor Lucas Unique The Ballad Of 1891 Trevor Lucas Unique Darkness In The Valley Trevor Lucas Unique I Threw It All Away Trevor Lucas Unique The End Of The Rainbow Trevor Lucas Unique Here Come The Cowboys Trevor Lucas Unique The Town I Loved So Well Trevor Lucas The Attic Tracks You Gotta Pay Me If You Lay Me Trevor Lucas Unique Walking On A Wire Trevor Lucas Unique Forever Young Trevor Lucas The Attic Tracks Volume 3: Blues Run The Game Sandy Denny Dark The Night Milk And Honey Sandy Denny Dark The Night Soho Sandy Denny Dark The Night In Memory (The Tender Years) Sandy Denny Dark The Night It Ain't Me, Babe Sandy Denny Dark The Night East Virginia Sandy Denny Dark The Night Geordie Sandy Denny A Box Full Of Treasures Fotheringay Sandy Denny Borrowed Thyme Just A Little Bit Of Rain Sandy Denny Borrowed Thyme Go Your Own Way Love Sandy Denny A Box Full Of Treasures Hold On To Me, Babe Sandy Denny Live At The BBC Green Grow The Laurels Sandy Denny Live At The BBC Fhir A Bhata (The Boatman) Sandy Denny Live At The BBC Who Knows Where The Time Goes Sandy Denny A Box Full Of Treasures / Sandy & The Strawbs Solo Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty The North Star Grassman And The Ravens Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty Gold Dust Sandy Denny Attic Tracks / 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty The Sea Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty Tomorrow Is A Long Time Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty Stranger To Himself Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty For Shame Of Doing Wrong Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty One More Chance Sandy Denny 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty Who Knows Where The Time Goes Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / 'Gold Dust' Live At The Royalty Volume 4: Stagger Lee Trevor Lucas Unique The Flash Stockman Trevor Lucas The Ballad Of Long Red Far From Me Trevor Lucas Unique Possibly Parsons Green Fairport Convention #74 Unique Days Of '49 Fairport Convention #74 Fiddlestix The Ballad Of Ned Kelly Fairport Convention #74 The Attic Tracks Down Where The Drunkards Roll Trevor Lucas Unique Quiet Joys Of Brotherhood Trevor Lucas Unique Breakaway Bluey & Curley The Attic Tracks Land Of The Free Trevor Lucas Unique Only A Shot In The Dark Trevor Lucas Unique Maxine Trevor Lucas Unique A Picture Of You Trevor Lucas Unique I Love My True Love Sandy Denny Borrowed Thyme Let No Man Steal Your Thyme Sandy Denny Borrowed Thyme Carnival Sandy Denny Borrowed Thyme Makes Me Think Of You Sandy Denny Well Hall Open Theatre, London, 5 August 1972 Ecoute, Ecoute Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / Sandy / A Box Full Of Treasures One More Chance Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / No More Sad Refrains / A Box Full Of Treasures / Rising For The Moon Rising For The Moon Sandy Denny The Attic Tracks / Rising For The Moon / A Box Full Of Treasures Until The Real Thing Comes Along Sandy Denny A Box Full Of Treasures Whispering Grass Sandy Denny A Box Full Of Treasures / Live At The BBC Dark The Night Sandy Denny Live At The BBC Solo Sandy Denny Live At The BBC Like An Old Fashioned Waltz Sandy Denny Original Studio Demos At The End Of The Day Sandy Denny Like An Old Fashioned Waltz / A Box Full Of Treasures behind a CD name means Bootleg. In that case, no legal releases are known (on CD). Unique means that I don't know of anywhere else this performance is released, just on one of these cassettes. The 4 Sandy CD's are the recently released remastered versions with bonus tracks. In most cases the recordings here are part of these bonus tracks. Regards, Henk Vasmel Van: SandyDennyList@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SandyDennyList@yahoogroups.com] Namens Henk Vasmel Verzonden: maandag 07 januari 2008 00:56 Aan: SandyDennyList@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: RE: [sandyDennyList] Re: Sandy Denny - The Attic Tracks - Vol. 1 (cassette) Van: hvasmel@... <mailto:hvasmel%40planet.nl> [mailto:hvasmel@... <mailto:hvasmel%40planet.nl> ] Verzonden: zaterdag 05 januari 2008 22:11 Aan: SandyDennyList@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SandyDennyList%40yahoogroups.com> Onderwerp: RE: [sandyDennyList] Re: Sandy Denny - The Attic Tracks - Vol. 1 (cassette) The First Cassette is probably no longer available. The last information I have is, that only Vol. 2,3 & 4 are still available. The Sandy recordings on Vol. 2 and 4 are available elsewhere, if I remember correctly. Vol. 3 is only Trevor Lucas, with no Sandy content. This, and the TL content on Vol. 2 is generally unavailable elsewhere, except for a few songs on the CD anthology. Vol. 1 is a different thing. It is a collection of recordings found in the attic where a lot of Sandy and Trevor's recordings were stored. It includes a few recordings also available on the CD, some outtakes only available on this tape, and a few singles, one from Jerry Donohue, and some with Sandy covers. The tracks that are unavailable elsewhere from this Vol.1 are high on my list of must haves, even though I have a quite comprehensive "Sandy" collection. Vol. 2,3 & 4 have been marked as "nice if you can find them, but don't lose any sleep over them. This all off the top of my head. Exact details can be provided monday evening when I have access to my database again. Regards, Henk Vasmel Since the connection in the weekend didn't allow my posting to the list, I can try again now and add some detail: Attic Tracks 1 contains "Full Moon" and two versions of "All Our Days", that I don't have yet. Other Sandy, TL and FC recordings have been officially released. There is a "You Never Know", by Charlie Drake (with Sandy ?), Lonnie Donegan and Judy Collins both covering WKWTTG, Keith Cross/Peter Ross with "Peace In The End" and both sides from a Jerry Donahue single, "Theme From Catlow"/"Luisa" Attic Tracks 2 is a Trevor Lucas Concert from October 1984. 17 songs, of which 15 are otherwise unavailable, and 2 are on the Attic Tracks CD, "The Town I Loved So Well" and "Forever Young" Attic Tracks 3 is Interesting Sandy stuff, two thirds of it officially released. The other 8 songs generally available on bootlegs. It is early demo's and part of the concert that is on "Gold Dust" Attic Tracks 4 is one side (13 songs) Trevor Lucas and the other side (13 songs) Sandy. Of Sandy's songs, 8 are officially released, the other five are available on Bootlegs. If we concentrate on the Sandy Songs, there would be just enough to fill one CD if we select only those songs that are not available officially. Regards again, Henk Vasmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunn Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 There's also quite a bit of her stuff on youtube. Dragster...thanks for the heads up on the biography. That might well be my next read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny_rock Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Anyone knows what her symbol means? According to : http://www.inthelight.co.nz/ledzep/zososymbol.htm Sandy Denny - three triangles. According to Koch it is an old symbol for the Godhead "beyond that nothing is known about it". Thanks 4 the answers! >> Ny << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anita1967 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 funny, I always assumed that was just a stylized footnote marker for her name on the credits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 There's also quite a bit of her stuff on youtube. Dragster...thanks for the heads up on the biography. That might well be my next read. My duty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianMerriam Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Tell that to Ian "Boogie with Stu" Stuart, or the guy who played tabla on the first album, or the string section that did Kashmir... Totally forgot about Ian Stewart. I didn't even know about the guy who played tabla on the first album. I just assumed it was Jonesy. what about "tangerine" was that a separate string section or was it jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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