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I am loving this glitch that makes it look like the person quoting another member they disagree with is coming from their thoughts - at least 2 members seem to have suddenly gained some common sense!
Ha, so true.
Sam...good work, I am sure all bugs will be worked out over the next few days. No worries mate!
Now, I am off to San Diego for some much needed R&R on the beach. Peace my fellow Zep Heads.
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I can't help but feel pessimistic about the new film since pretty much everything Star Wars related has been terrible after the original trilogy. However, I am interested in just how it will turn out since Shadows of the Empire was a non-Lucas installment and it turned out better than all of his post-trilogy efforts.
Anything has to be better than episodes I-III & VI.
FUCKING EWOKS!!!
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Time to do the Batusi!
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Wasn't George Takei one of the original ST crew? He's still living.
yes indeed he is, I love George, great human being. What I meant was he will "likely" be the last man standing, not that he was the only man standing. Walter Koenig is alive and well and still doing sic-fi. If you never saw the Babylon 5 series check it out. Koenig play a character called Al Bester, a Psy-Cop, and it is a wonderful, deep character. Much better than his role as Chekov.
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I have one of these little beauties, the Motorola Barrage. I've had it for years; built like a tank and it only costs me $10 per month with unlimited calls----- now that is what I call a "SMART" phone, one that doesn't cost much. It's PHONE for friggin' sakes.
Good for you, those smart phones are making everyone near sighted. I agree, a phone should be just a phone for the most part. I hate those little screens.
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There are only 2 songs zeppelin ever did that jimmy sounds Sloppy (to me, at least).
The solo to Hot Dog from ITTOD, and 'We're gonna groove' from CODA.
The solo in Hot Dog was constructed that way on purpose according to Page, he was supposedly going for a psycho-billy feel to the tune.
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Listening to the RO ref mix, what a gas! That is most likely Bonham singing, regardless of what Jimmy says and Bonham is hilarious on this...they should have kept this version for the album, funny as hell.
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10 Ribs almost sounds like an unfinished Joni Mitchell tune with Zep as band with a hint of Motown...very un-Zeppelin & interesting, I really love this tune. Funny, this song would have been great as is used in a movie, like the last scene of Say Anything or even Singles.
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From what I have read over the years, Plant was not in any way involved in XYZ. (I believe he was working on the Honeydrippers at the time)
According to Robert himself, at the time, he claimed the music was too complex for his tastes and wanted to focus on his solo career. In other words, I was controlled by Page for 12 years, I sure as hell am not gonna be controlled by Page AND Squire.
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Happy birthday buddy, may all your dreams come true.
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Ok I listened AGAIN, it's just not good. In fact, I have a very specific problem with Burning Up, and I finally figured out why this song never worked for me. Charlie Jones ruins the whole song.
During the chorus where Plant sings "I'm burning up" Jimmy is going from A to D, but Charlie for some asinine reason is going from E to A, and it sounds terrible. It just sounds like a mess.
Terrible terrible production job
I agree as well in regard to Burning Up, I really don't like it and it sounds out of place, a throw away tune. The rest of the album I love though and don't mind the mix. Great album IMO.
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Is it just me ears or does Jimmy, at the 5 min mark, play the riff for what would later become Greg Kihn's Jeopardy???
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That's true but not all contracts bind the artist to one brand, although the mega-expensive Paul's and double necks issued 8-9 ?? years
ago may restrict Page's "issues". There have been jazz artists who have had signature guitars with Gibson AND Guild, for example. In rock
there was a Burns and Guild Brian May model as well. However usually one model is on it's way out because especially if the guitars
shared similarities it would be stupid to slit your own throat. But I really doubt Gibson would have a problem with a Page Dano....The
guitar is just not competing with Gibson in any way, unless they argued that now you could have a Page signature for let's say $700,
instead of $10,000.
I don't know about the Dano for a Page signature, he only used the damn thing for three songs: WS/BMS, IMTOD, & Kashmir. Plus, I preferred the tone of the LP for Kashmir as he used the LP for the song in 75' and 95'- 2007. WS/BMS sounded much, much better on the Gibson J-200 he borrowed from Big Jim Sullivan for the Julie Felix show. Then when he used the Gibson ES-350 the tone was just stunning, this guitar was made for this type of song.
I thought Page used the Dano because Syd Barrett used one as well and Page was a big fan of Syd. I have played them and never liked them, don't know what Page saw in the guitar as it is just thin sounding to me.
I go with the OP on this, either a Page signature Dragon Tele or signature Botswana Brown B-Bender.
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Nice looking guitar Money, if I may ask, how much was the guitar in total?
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What a twat indeed. LP are a much easier guitar to play than a Tele but personally I prefer the Tele and I loved the tone on the first album. I wish Page would have kept the Tele for stage use and switched between it and the LP depending on the song. WLL is a good example of the raunchy crunch of the LP but something like SIBLY would have sounded much better on the Tele IMO.
The Dragon was my favorite Page guitar.
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It seems Robbie has got the upper hand over Jimmy. Planning permission granted.
Smells like a payoff to me, old Robbie probably greased a few palms to lubricate the wheels of progress. Its always about the money. Fucking disaster.
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LTTE of course and Rotterdam 80'. Anniversary for both.
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Well if Page had to solo over Steve Howe era-Yes there may have been trouble, but Midnight Moonlight with the Firm is pretty complex.
Both Chris Squire and Alan White later commented that the stuff that was done with Page inXYZ was considered a real project, not
just jamming. Page was very dismayed that Plant didn't come along, who said the music was too complicated.
Funny you should bring that up because I always felt Page & Howe, though very different players, could be very similar in a live setting. If you hear Howe's solos on Yessongs, compared to the 80's shredders, Howe makes quite a few mistakes. He too is an exiting player who is not afraid to go off in new directions (though no where near the improvisationist Page was) to add emotion and colour to his playing, even to the detriment of accuracy. At the height of his ability Page, Howe, and Blackmore were pretty equal in regard to technique though I would have to give the edge (in technique) to Blackmore, but the again Page & Howe were much more exciting players than Blackmore was.
Give & take I guess but if Page stuck with the XYZ project and they got a new singer, I think he would have pulled it off quite well by 85' if he was sober. TBH, Squire being quite the strong personality would have most likely given Page a forceful ultimatum in regard to substance abuse had the project developed.
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The Jimmy Page pre 1974 is one of my favourite players. After that it seemed that he lost his passion for playing the guitar and was more interested in getting the next shot of heroin and the next bottle of Jack Daniels. He never got his playing together like it was before. This is so sad. His generation of guitar players like Blackmore, Iommi, Beck and Clapton has done a lot better than him. They still play really good these days. IMO Jimmy wasted his talent.
When I first stared playing guitar, Jimmy was my undisputed hero. After many years of playing myself I found it hard to listen to many bootlegs from 1975 onwards because Jimmy was so "off" on a lot of shows. It hurt to hear him play like he did. Still there are a lot of good shows from the later days.
I don't get why everyone thinks that good technique and feeling don't fit together. There are many examples of players who play technically at a high level and have a lot of feeling. Especially outside rock music.
Hmm, not sure if the boots support your position there. Some of Page's fines playing was on the 75' US tour, the whole month of March in particular blows away anything he had done live prior. I would agree from 77' - 83' Page was pretty bad about 50% of the time which is, well, pretty bad if you were one of the unlucky 50%. However outside of the Atlantic 40th show his playing was pretty damn good 84' on, especially during the 94' Japanese tour and the 98' Page / Plant Tour. In fact I would wager Page did some of his best playing of his whole career during the 98' - 2000 timeframe. He may have slowed down a bit, but what he lacked in shredding he more than made up for in technique and emotion which for me, emotion is the key.
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Yes indeed, I don't think anyone on this thread has trashed Bakers talent, quite the contrary. I believe everyone here recognizes Baker as one of the greatest drummers of all time, the problem is he is also a complete dick. The fact Baker chooses to trash other musicians shows how truly insecure he is especially when it comes to his drumming. Therein lay the irony, everyone knows Baker is one of the best, however I don't believe Baker feels this way about himself and that is truly sad. He is one of those poor bastards who has a vision of perfection, unfortunately that state is unattainable and combined with a "I must be the best" attitude has him pulling an endless goal he can never reach akin to Sisyphus and his boulder. You know, I really pity this poor man, he is a victim of his own impossible standards.
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I wonder if Baker could read music in general or just for the drums? Two completely different things. When I learned to read & understand musical theory, I learned on the trumpet. The notes, tempo, meter, time, accents, etc. were what you would expect of sheet music you see in the movies and takes time to lear and learn properly. Sheet music for drums is very, very easy by comparison. There are no "notes" per se in drums, just what drum to hit, how to hit that drum, time, accent. I like to compare the two like this: Learning to read true sheet music for non-percussion instruments is like learning chess; learning to read sheet music for percussion is like checkers.
Anyway, just curious if he knew how to read both. Anyway, Baker is still a grumpy old asshole, one of the most naturally gifted drummers ever but a complete and total asshole to the core.
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Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. It was a pretty uneventful day, as the family did a little pre-celebration over the weekend. Now, I can kick back, relax and watch some Lon Chaney movies I have not seen in awhile...
Happy Birthday Paul...don't forget to watch Shadows & The Unholy Three. Lon at his best.
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^ BLASPHEMY!!!
Just kidding, could not resist.
Jimi Hendrix
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Redding and Mitchell were excellent musicians in their own right, right up there with Jimi himself. Cox & Miles were better sidemen, they laid down a solid, very uncomplicated foundation for Jimi to do what he wanted. That was the difference.
I like both era's, however I break it down like this: The first two albums had better, more accessible songs, more radio friendly. Electric Ladyland was an amazing concept album of sorts and was a Jimi showcase par excellence but the songs were much more eclectic and varied. It was his Bitches Brew IMO. Then you have Band of Gypsies which I love to listen to. As a live album it is not perfect, Jimi makes a ton of mistakes but the centerpiece, Machine Gun, is a jam which cannot be equalled, it is the gold standard of guitar jam live songs.
Jimi was the zenith of guitar playing IMO, there are much better technical players, but like Jimmy Page, Jimi is an emotive player who bleeds every note from his veins. You could FEEL his playing.