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The blast off (depressed tremolo bar then released) is overdubbed part of the solo. If you listen to In The Evening from the companion disc, it's buried in the mix compared to the rest of the solo. He fixed the mix on the released version. Definitely a very cool effect. He took it to another level when he used the same guitar on Cadillac from The Firm.
Oh yes, Cadillac, what a great tune. I try and imagine Robert singing this song, almost a sequel (in mood, not theme) to IMTOD. This is my all time favorite Firm tune and Jimmy's best post-Zeppelin tune bar none IMO. Love it!
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the amazing "BLAST OFF" part of the solo in "IN THE EVENING" sO unique,original,perfect for the song!
Id like to hear some feedback on it:
-what musicians thought of it first X hearing it
-Page & Plant tour= someX's PAGE did play that part ,it was hard live ,however somewhere on Utube i DID see him "poll it off" live!
One X in particular LIVE he REALLY NAILED IT! can someone share THAT link? or any other versions audio or video ?
When I saw P&P in Phoenix Page nailed EVERY solo including the one in ITE. When they played again in 98' Page was, IMO, at the pinnacle of his guitar prowess, even better than his Zeppelin abilities. Just my opinion but Jimmy in 98'- 2001 was just as good if not better than Jeff Beck is today and Beck is currently at his best.
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Thanks. Add the main cast from "Game of Thrones" and my head would explode. 2 1/2 hours till showtime.
oooohhhh, MY head would explode with that!
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I have a ticket (actually my co-worker has my ticket) for the Force Awakens for later on this evening, 12/17/15. I do not even know the name of the movie theater that I will be seeing this epic. I am somewhat of an "expert" when it comes to Star Wars and its history, but I can not and could not tell you where I will be seeing this movie in less than 18 hours from now. How ironic is that?
For any and all those who could care less about this movie, just remember that you also have the right to not participate in this discussion. For those that do not care about this movie, I ask you, why would you waste your time and whatever else to espouse your views for a movie that you don't care about?...
and it makes Me wonder...
No worries King...Now if Bryan Cranston and the cast from Walking Dead have cameos in The Force Awakens, I believe your head might explode.
Good Luck.
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The Dano was also used on studio versions of The Rain Song and Babe I'm Gonna Leave you.
Can you provide a link to that info because in regard to The Rain Song, he sure sounds like he is using an acoustic until the up tempo section toward the end. That guitar (excluding the up tempo) sounds nothing like an electric much less a Dano. BIGLY I thought was a Martin acoustic for the main part and his Tele for the electric part and of course a pedal steel as well.
Anyone know differently???
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My post was neither racist nor sexist. I own more than 1,500 films on dvd, and can't think of one "Space Western" that puts a white female AND a black male in the lead roles. I'm not knocking it, just saying I'm not feeling it. Seems a bit Disney PC to me. Anyway, I'm genuinely interested in the so called back story of the black character. The chick? That's just predictable.
C'mon Steve, I know yu are better than that. This is not a movie about a early 20th century revisionist western where the black guy and woman have equal rights and there is no racism or sexism. This is a movie arc which takes place in a different galaxy, anything is possible and humanities history (Earths) does not apply. Woman, black guy, Chinese guy with huge dick (could not resist) can exist as equals. Race and gender do not apply UNLESS it is part of the story itself. Fiction is a great thing, anything is possible and history in fiction is irrelevant.
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There is a lesson to be learned here, imo. An artist has to be willing to look ridiculous in order to grow. Maybe it's best not to wait for divine inspiration. Instead pick a musical "style" that interests you and see where it takes you. Even if the project flops, you'll learn something along the way; make valuable contacts, etc.
Good point Disco
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on Monday , we got tickets for Friday the 18th....can't wait!
Hmmm, $20 bucks a ticket for a first showing...not too bad I guess however I would have had me mum buy the things and use her AARP / senior citizen discount or my military ID, whichever gives the biggest discount.
That and I will wait until the crowds thin out a bit, I will need a clear path of escape should I be forced to shiv someone who uses their cell phone during the movie.
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The whole ARMS tour Jimmy performance gets a bad rap because of the one, singular London show, TMK, every show they played after that Page was great. Such a shame everyone remembers London yet forgets, or is not even aware of the rest of the tour. If anyone has a different recollection of the rest of Jimmy's performances on the tour please let me know.
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Is it just my sick mind or does it appear that Stevie is giving Lindsey an "old fashioned?"
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While IN the Firm Jimmy did certainly laud Paul's voice with its' smoothness and soul, and ability to
record vocal tracks in one take. Later after the Firm Jimmy never made negative comments directly
but did say that one of his main goals was to push Paul's voice into more unusual directions and that
the project just ran its' course. I think one thing people don't realize is that Page is not assertive enough
in certain situations and whereas another famous guitarist might start telling people what to play, Page
in Zep never needed to do that....when you start telling people how to play, it's very easy to get into
touchy situations.
Yes indeed, just ask Ted Nugent.
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Ya, in case I wasn't clear, I don't agree. As I said, I would like for them to have carried on. Get it?
I can respect that, however who would you think would have made a good replacement for Bonzo?
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With what precisely, you think Zeppelin should have continued after Bonzo drank himself to an early grave? Whom should they have replaced him with, and more pertinently... why? They didn't just make the right decision, they made the only decision they could have made... for themselves, for the band, for their legacy, but most importantly, for Bonzo and his memory.
Zeppelin without Bonzo wouldn't have been Zeppelin; it would have been the three surviving members and some new guy... just like the 2007 gig, and that concert - however honorable the reasons behind it (and Jason's poignant participation in it) - just didn't feel like Led Zeppelin to me, and still doesn't.
I've said it here before and I'll say it again once more for emphasis... thank God for Robert Plant stopping any reunion tour in it's tracks.
I agree completely, I have no idea of any drummer who could even come close to Bonham in respect to the Zeppelin material. Jason was very good but I concur, it did not really sound like a Zeppelin show wothout the amazing Bonzo.
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Happy Birthday IpMan!
May good fortune smile on you. Have a great year to come. And save me some lasagna.
Best to you.Oooohh, are those cupcakes? I want a cupcake...
Thank you for the well wishes sir, truly appreciated.
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Because not too long ago in an interview (of which a link was posted at this site) Keith stated that Zeppelin was a creation of Peter Grant.
Oh come on now, that is plain rubbish, Zeppelin was NOT a creation of Peter Grant!!! Everyone knows who created Zeppelin...it was the god Poseidon. He reached his life giving hand out, shouted, "I want to rock, and thus I have created musical perfection!!! Oh, and here is a mud shark too."
I really hate it when people don't know the facts. Sheesh.
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Wow, thank you all so much for the well wishes. My wife is making lasagna tonight (I don't eat meat or dairy anymore as they do not agree with me), so this will be interesting. I pull this a few times a year and though I wind up with a bit of discomfort (not too much) it is worth it.
Again, thank you all very much, I FEEL the love!!!
Peace and happy Sunday everyone.
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Today is my birthday...happy birthday to ME!!!
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Yes, he did, having signed an artist management deal with Trinifold in Autumn 1986. Bill Curbishley's immediate advice and council to Robert was embrace your Zeppelin roots--fast!
Of course not. In fact Page recorded both solos in a single three hour session one afternoon in 1987.
Interesting Steve, I always wondered what the impetus was for Plant, who prior had been so adamant about NOT playing Zeppelin tunes in concert, suddenly had a change of heart for first Now & Zen and the subsequent tour. I can tell you this much, the attendance at the 88' gig I went to was larger and rowdier than the 85' Shaken n' Stirred tour and of course Now & Zen reached #6 and the singles Heaven Knows & Tall Cool One both hit #1 vs. Shaken n' Stirred only reaching #20. One would say Mr. Curbishley was wise council indeed.
Fun Fact: Now & Zen did reach #1 on the CD only sales chart and was the first album to do so as it was a brand new rating system in response to CD's coming into prominence.
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I just listened to this interview. IMO, Plant was saying that Page needed to find better outlets than The Firm. He thinks he is a brilliant and very original guitarist with a knack for coming in at odd and interesting angles. He thought Page's playing was great in The Firm concert he attended, but the music itself was unoriginal. He thinks that Page should care more how others view him and his music but added that he never really has. He also wondered if Page would be able to play the music that he (Plant) was doing in his solo albums because this music was more precise in regards to time signature and key while Page's playing tended to be "rambling and Wagnerian".
This was a very illuminating interview, imo. Plant put into words what so many rock fans find special and unique about Page's guitar playing. The "come into a song at odd angles" is the best description of Page's playing that I've read. It also gives us some insight into Page's post-Zeppelin career. Page's guitar ramblings and tendency to come in at odd angles during a song may make it harder for him to find singers and other musicians who are a good fit.
Kinda funny that Plant in 85' says Page would not be a good fit for his music, yet two years later records Now & Zen with Page adding guitar solos to Heaven Knows & Tall Cool One. I guess Mr. Plant changed his mind.
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Well if anything it certainly cemented the bands legacy into mythical status there after. That much influential music in that short of a time span, then poof, ... gone.
I really thought the Live Aid appearance in '85 was gonna be the catalyst for a full reunion. Before that anything in the catalog was taboo even for solo shows. Although It was probably the right decision, I think they coulda reinvented the band without losing too much.
Songs like 'Thru with the two step' and 'Like I've never been gone' coulda been LZ album material IMO...
What about Too Loud??? Just joking.
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Robert was a big fan of the Carry On sequence of camp films from the 60's. The film, Carry on Screaming was his favorite of the bunch and featured the line "frying tonight" when one of the main characters is thrown into a vat of acid. I believe the line in For Your Life was a reference to that film.
Of course the song does reference cocaine and the dangers of hard drugs in general, but freebase was not popular in 1975 when this song was written, however, being musicians they could have been exposed to things such as freebasing coke before it became popular in the late 70's.
My take is that Robert is juxtaposing cocaine addiction and winding up in a vat of acid as in the film as one and the same. Just my opinion.
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I don't think it's just the odd poor live performance, it's the decline in his playing since 1973 that he never recovered from that bamboozles fans. Clapton and Beck have, if anything, got better with age, but Page has struggled to refind the magic he had from 1968-73. The biggest thing that has deserted him is his fluency in his solos. Lots of sticky notes, etc. I liked his playing in the Firm, but not the songs and music.
You see I do not agree at all with your statement. Have you seen Page perform live post 73'? I have, several times and I can say his performance at the Chicago Stadium in 77' was just as good as his 73' performances. Further, his performance during the 98' P&P tour was, IMO, was easily as good as 73' if not better. Was he as fast in 98' as he was in 73'? No, but just a tad slower, however he was much more precise in his playing than he ever had been prior and he played with an emotional maturity that was beyond what he did in the early 70's. Not just my opinion, check out some of those 98' shows on YouTube and you be the judge. Page only went down hill as a live performer from 77'-83', after that he was fine except for the two shitty reunion shows (Live Aid & Atlantic 40th) and of those two only the Atlantic show was truly a bad performance.
Also, I did not see any of the Coverdale Page Japan gigs but I hear his playing on that tour was even better than 98' PP.
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I guess I was lucky because every time I saw Page live: Chicago 10th, 1977, 1985 W Firm in Phx, 1988 solo in Phx, 1995 & 98 P&P in Phx he was always an amazing player. In fact after all the talk of Page turning to shit as a player with the airing of the first ARMS gig in London in 83' I almost was going to skip the 85' Firm show...very glad I did not because his playing at that, and every other show I saw, was brilliant. Not saying Page did not have his bad nights or periods, I just think his live playing is scrutinized to a level no other guitarist in the history of music has been subjected to. Think about it, I have never heard about how EVH sucked live as a player at times yet I witnessed it myself twice, drunker than shit and made Page look brilliant at Tempe 77' by comparison yet this is rarely mentioned.
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I ws a Sophmore in HS when The Firm's first LP came out. I remember catching some shit & my buddies making fun of Radioactive,,,, but I really did like the LP and remember convincing my friends after several listening parties and smoking lots of bongs that it was good as well.
The 2nd Firm LP, well..... at least weeds still good!
Funny, I always preferred Mean Business to the first album. Cadillac alone is worth the price of the album and Page's guitar work on Dreaming is sublime.
Best to you.
the Star Wars thread...
in Ramble On
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That is disgusting Strider...you should be ashamed of yourself. BTW, where can I meet geek women like that? If I could only find a sweet honey who gets all swampy at the thought of Firefly, Babylon 5 or Star Wars? Oh Myyyyy, dare to dream.
Going to see the movie Sunday morning, matinee, hoping to avoid some of the crowd.