When my husband and I were young, we were leaving a concert buzzed and barely finding our way through the parking lot. We saw feathers on the ground. When I picked it up, we saw that it was a roach clip with feathers and with what we thought was a folded $20 bill stuck in the clip. When my husband pulled it out, there were five 20s. $100 was a fortune to us back then.

I wish I could find the text or a youtube clip of that interview. It was quite interesting. It could well be that the person, because he was with the Holding Company, was a bit biased. The clip of Cass Elliott watching Janis is a classic! Here are some links to NPR stories on the Monterey Pop fest and John Phillips: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=11028739 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1120200 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5778064 I hear you on the entire Monterey Pop festival. It was part of an era that I just missed but would have loved to have been a part of.

Her performance at Monterey Pop is probably my favorite. I can't find a link to it right now, but there is a video about the Monterey Pop and one of the musicians who is interviewed (he might have been a member of Big Brother & the Holding Company) said that the festival was organized to highlight performers like the Mamas & the Papas and other more conventional acts. He explained that it all fell apart when Janis and then Jimi took the stage and basically stole the show.

Thanks very much lzfan715! I always appreciate something interesting from Janis.

Thanks, Ally. The Lowell George era was, by far, my favorite Little Feat time. They were absolutely great live during that time period. For me, Lowell's passing changed the dynamic of the group. I've often thought that he was the soul of Little Feat. When I was younger, I used to wonder what it would have been like to have been around when Lowell George and Frank Zappa were hanging out together in Los Angeles during the era of "The Factory". And, yes, those pre-crash Skynyrd concerts were great.

First part of the thread: My all-time favorite southern rock band (and one of my very favorite bands ever) is the Allman Brothers. I've already written about the Allmans in the Allmans thread. http://forums.ledzeppelin.com//index.php?s...ic=3209&hl= Next on my list of "southern" rock (southern is in quotes here because the band was from LA) is Little Feat. I saw them several times during the early '70's (some guys we knew in LA were talking about the band) and I still remember the buzz and excitement that surrounded the them. To this day, I still love to listen to Rock & Roll Doctor and remember dancing to that song at the Little Feat concerts: Second part of the thread: I love the early, pre-crash Lynyrd Skynyrd. Another band that I was fortunate to see live before the tragedy. Despite articles like the one below, my husband and I are both unapologetic about our decades-long love for "Freebird". March 17, 2005 Rock's Oldest Joke: Yelling 'Freebird!' In a Crowded Theater It's a Request, a Rebuke, A Cry From the Heart, A Tribute to Skynyrd By JASON FRY THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE March 17, 2005 One recent Tuesday night at New York's Bowery Ballroom, the Crimea had just finished its second song. The Welsh quintet's first song had gone over fairly well, the second less so, and singer/guitarist Davey MacManus looked out at the still-gathering crowd. Then, from somewhere in the darkness came the cry, "Freebird!" It made this night like so many other rock 'n' roll nights in America. "Freebird" isn't the Crimea's song; it's from the 1973 debut album by legendary Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd. The band's nine-minute march from ruminative piano to wailing guitar couldn't be less like the Crimea's jagged punk-pop. But it was requested nonetheless. Somebody is always yelling out the title. "I don't know that I've ever seen a show where it hasn't happened," says Bill Davis of the veteran country-punk band Dash Rip Rock. "It's just the most astonishing phenomenon," says Mike Doughty, the former front man of the "deep slacker jazz" band Soul Coughing, adding that "these kids, they can't be listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd." Yelling "Freebird!" has been a rock cliché for years, guaranteed to elicit laughs from drunks and scorn from music fans who have long since tired of the joke. And it has spread beyond music, prompting the Chicago White Sox organist to add the song to her repertoire and inspiring a greeting card in which a drunk holding a lighter hollers "Freebird!" at wedding musicians. Bands mostly just ignore the taunt. But one common retort is: "I've got your 'free bird' right here." That's accompanied by a middle finger. It's a strategy Dash Rip Rock's former bassist Ned Hickel used. According to fans' accounts of shows, so have Jewel and Hot Tuna's Jack Casady. Jewel declines to comment. Mr. Casady says that's "usually not my response to those kind of things." Others have offered more than the bird. On a recent live album, Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock declares that "if this were the Make-a-Wish Foundation, and you were going to die in 20 minutes -- just long enough to play 'Freebird' -- we still wouldn't play it." Dash Rip Rock often plays "Stairway to Freebird," a mash-up of the Skynyrd epic and Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" that Mr. Davis boasts lasts "less than two minutes. ... You're finished before people get mad." A few years ago, Mr. Doughty started promoting the Weather Girls' "It's Raining Men" as the new "Freebird," asking audiences at his solo shows to call for the disco chestnut instead. Now, he says, he gets yells for both songs at every performance. A harsh reaction to "Freebird" came from the late comedian Bill Hicks during a Chicago gig in the early 1990s. On a bootleg recording of the show, Mr. Hicks at first just sounds irked. "Please stop yelling that," he says. "It's not funny, it's not clever -- it's stupid." The comic soon works himself into a rage, but the "Freebirds" keep coming. "Freebird," he finally says wearily, then intones: "And in the beginning there was the Word -- 'Freebird.' And 'Freebird' would be yelled throughout the centuries. 'Freebird,' the mantra of the moron." How did this strange ritual begin? "Freebird" is hardly obscure -- it's a radio staple consistently voted one of rock's greatest songs. One version -- and an important piece of the explanation -- anchors Skynyrd's 1976 live album "One More From the Road." On the record, singer Ronnie Van Zant, who was killed along with two other bandmates in a 1977 plane crash, asks the crowd, "What song is it you want to hear?" That unleashes a deafening call for "Freebird," and Skynyrd obliges with a 14-minute rendition. To understand the phenomenon, it also helps to be from Chicago. When asked why they continue to request "Freebird," Mr. Hicks's tormentors yell out "Kevin Matthews!" Kevin Matthews is a Chicago radio personality who has exhorted his fans -- the KevHeads -- to yell "Freebird" for years, and claims to have originated the tradition in the late 1980s, when he says he hit upon it as a way to torment Florence Henderson of "Brady Bunch" fame, who was giving a concert. He figured somebody should yell something at her "to break up the monotony." The longtime Skynyrd fan settled on "Freebird," saying the epic song "just popped into my head." Mr. Matthews says the call was heeded, inspiring him to go down the listings of coming area shows, looking for entertainers who deserved a "Freebird" and encouraging the KevHeads to make it happen. But he bemoans the decline of "Freebird" etiquette. "It was never meant to be yelled at a cool concert -- it was meant to be yelled at someone really lame," he says. "If you're going to yell 'Freebird,' yell 'Freebird' at a Jim Nabors concert." Still, Mr. Matthews treasures his trove of recorded "Freebird" moments -- such as baffled comedian Elayne Boosler wondering why the audience is shouting "reverb." And he argues that good bands simply acknowledge it and move on. "The people who are conceited, the so-called artists who get really offended by it, they deserve it," he says. But did "Freebird" truly start with the KevHeads? Longtime Chicago Tribune music writer Greg Kot says he remembers the cry from the early 1980s. He suggests it originated as an in-joke among indie-rock fans "having their sneer at mainstream classic rock." Other music veterans think it dates back to 1970s audiences' shouts for it and other guitar sagas, such as "Whipping Post," by the Allman Brothers Band, and "Smoke on the Water," by Deep Purple. They may all be right: It's possible "Freebird" began as a rallying cry for Skynyrd Nation and a sincere request from guitar lovers, was made famous by the live cut, taken up by ironic clubgoers, given new life by Mr. Matthews, and eventually lost all meaning and became something people holler when there's a band onstage. But as with many mysteries, the true origin may be unknowable -- cold comfort for bands still to be confronted with the inevitable cry from the darkness. For them, here's a strategy tried by a brave few: Call the audience's bluff. Phish liked to sing it a cappella. The Dandy Warhols play a slowed-down take singer Courtney Taylor-Taylor describes as sung "like T. Rex would if he were on a lot of pills." And Dash Rip Rock has performed the real song in order to surprise fans expecting the parody. For his part, Mr. Doughty suggests that musicians make a pact: Whenever anyone calls for "Freebird," play it in its entirety -- and if someone calls for it again, play it again. "That would put a stop to 'Freebird,' I think," he says. "It would be a bad couple of years, but it might be worth it." So what do the members of Skynyrd think of the tradition? Johnny Van Zant, Ronnie's brother and the band's singer since 1987, says "it's not an insult at all -- I think it's kind of cool. It's fun, and people are doing it in a fun way. That's what music's supposed to be about." Besides, Mr. Van Zant has a confession: His wife persuaded him to see Cher in Jacksonville a couple of years ago, and he couldn't resist yelling "Freebird!" himself. "My wife is going, 'Stop! Stop!' " he recalls, laughing. "I embarrassed the hell out of her." 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When Jimmy called Ahmet a "coconspirator", I didnt' think that he was referring to anything that had to do with a conspiracy, secret society or OTO. My interpretation of the quote was based on the fact that, when LZ, the Stones, and other rockers were touring and Ahmet Ertegun accompanied them, he would be around every matter of "strange and unusual" activities. Ertegun appeared matter-of-fact and nonjudgmental. When he was discussing and focused on business-related matters (sometimes right in the middle of the antics), he was (seemingly) detached from what was going on around him. No doubt another reason why the rockers loved him. At last year's Ertegun tribute at Jazz at Lincoln Center, Mick Jagger referred to him as a "wicked uncle". So, when I saw that quote, my first thought was that it pertained to what transpired during the tours and Ertegun's acceptance of the rockers' lifestyle. Ertegun saw many things that he could have reported on or written about in a sensationalized "tell-all" book but he was discreet and chose to keep what he saw confidential. I can understand why so many rockers had great respect for him. JMO.

You certainly have. It would be wonderful if you could share them here.

Thanks, Wesley! That's a great quote. The website looks fantastic. My husband and I were both very fortunate to have been able to attend the concerts that we did back in the 70's. Neither of us would trade growing up in that era and having those musical experiences for anything. It sounds as if you've been lucky too.

I thought I posted a response to this. Thanks again, Wesley. The pic you posted might jog my husband's memory a bit as to which show he attended.

Wesley, thanks for your excellent analyses of King Crimson. Very interesting reading! I've shared them with my husband as he is a much greater fan of King Crimson and Fripp than I am. "In the Court of the Crimson King" is one of our favorite albums. My husband saw King Crimson live, in Central Park, in the early '70's and still says that particular concert was one of the most innovative concerts he has attended.

My favorite Doors song is LA Woman with The End a close second. My husband's favorites are The End and Roadhouse Blues.

Agreed. It still makes my list of my all-time favorite rock albums.

In that interview with Dick Cavett, she seems so easygoing. He was so nice to her too! It looks like they had a good rapport with one another. It was just so cute to see that. I love how she described the limo and how she rode up front!

Great screen caps! Yes, fun and interesting. It must have been great to have been one of her friends back then.

In that interview, she came across as someone who would be interesting to talk with and fun to hang out with.

lzfan715, based on her outfit, your screen caps look like they came from Janis' last interview with Dick Cavett. I don't see "nasty" at all in her. There is still something very appealing and almost sweet about Janis here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=18bQ3HSxB2Q

We've seen them in Austin. Thanks for the Patty Hurst Shifter link.

I completely agree! They are great! I think that we talked about this once before here. Ian and the Bump Band still play at the Lucky Lounge in Austin.

She was killed in a car accident, on a rural road, not far from their ranch. I will try to find the newspaper article and post it. It was really a tragedy. So sad. Edited to add from the Austin American Statesman: Kim McLagan dead at 57 Wife of musician Ian McLagan killed in two-vehicle collision on FM 969 By Michael Corcoran AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Monday, August 07, 2006 A traffic collision Wednesday claimed the life of Kim McLagan, 57, a top British fashion model of the 1960s, a Bastrop-area salon owner and wife of former Faces keyboardist Ian McLagan. The couple have lived in Manor since 1994. The two-vehicle crash occurred at 9:50 a.m. at Taylor Lane and FM 969 in eastern Travis County. Texas Department of Public Safety officials said McLagan died at the scene. Officials said McLagan was driving a 2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser south on Taylor when she apparently ran a stop sign at the intersection. She was hit by a 2000 Freightline dump truck that was heading west. As a teenager, Kim Kerrigan was the toast of swinging London, marrying the Who drummer Keith Moon in 1966 and appearing the next year in the worldwide satellite debut of the Beatles' "All You Need Is Love" video. She was divorced from Moon in 1975; he died three years later of an accidental drug overdose. In 1978, she married Ian McLagan in England. Despite her life there amid fashion and rock stars, Kim McLagan seemed just as suited to the peaceful, rural life outside Manor, where the McLagans lived on 15 acres. She owned K.M. Skincare on Texas 71 in the Alum Creek community between Bastrop and Smithville. She was a licensed aesthetician and worked for several years at Lake Austin Spa. McLagan was not one to dwell on her past, friends say. "I had no idea she used to be a model," said Dick Simcoe, owner of Little Thailand restaurant in Garfield, where the McLagans would eat most Friday nights. "She was so beautiful, inside and out. Her and Mac were very much in love." Growing up as Patsy Kerrigan on her father's rubber plantation in Malaysia, the doe-eyed beauty changed her name to Kim after her family moved back to London and she began modeling. "Patsy" was too close to Pattie Boyd, another model whom she resembled, and so she became Kim to avoid confusion. She's survived by a daughter, Mandy Moon, the product of her stormy marriage to the Who drummer. The McLagans, who were married for 28 years, had no children together. After years in Los Angeles, the couple moved to Manor after the California city's 1994 earthquake. Ian McLagan soon established himself as a fixture on the Austin music scene, in recent years playing a popular early show with his Bump Band every Thursday at Lucky Lounge in Austin. "Kim just loved it out here," Simcoe said. "She told me she'd never move back to England." Ellen Moore of the Bastrop Advertiser frequently wrote about the couple in her local scene column. "There was no one on this earth who didn't think that she was an angel. She was very family-minded, a wonderful, loyal friend," Moore said. "She was always interested in learning: herbs, whatever, always reading something. She would help people with aches and pains. It was all about keeping them healthy." mcorcoran@statesman.com; 445-3652 Additional material by staff writer Tony Plohetski. Find this article at: http://www.austin360.com/music/content/mus...kimmclagan.html

I haven't heard anything about this in a year or so. The last I heard about the film was that it was due out in '09 and the working title was: See Me Feel Me: Keith Moon Naked for Your Pleasure. I am conflicted about whether I will go to see it. One of Keith's ex-wives lived not far from here, until she was killed. I am not sure if she had any input into the film and whether her untimely death affected production. I had met and spoken to her but I never dared mention the name "Keith Moon." She was so nice and seemed very happily married to her current husband, Ian McLagan. Sorry I can't offer any more recent news about the film.

It is brilliant and touching - and powerful - especially for anyone who has ever been betrayed by someone who he/she considered a friend:

Another retread: I've attended almost as many Who concerts as I have Zep concerts. The difference being that, as with the Stones' concerts, The Who concerts have been spread out over 30+ years while the Zep concerts were all in the span of 3 1/2 years. I was really fortunate to have experienced the Keith Moon years. Unfortunately, the last Who concerts for which we had tickets was canceled (last year) because of Roger Daltrey's illness. Roger Daltrey: he usually comes up #2, behind Robert Plant, on my list of favorite rock vocalists. My favorite Who song is Baba O'Riley (a.k.a. "Teenage Wasteland"). I know it has been overplayed but it's hard to match the feeling of being in a packed stadium with thousands of Who fans singing out the lyrics at certain times. Following very closely behind, in my list of Who favorites would be "Won't Get Fooled Again" (again, something to experience live). After that, probably "My Generation". Live Who and the vibe at their concerts is fantastic. Because of The Who, the first time that my husband and I went to London together, we took a train to Brighton so we could visit places from Quadrophenia (including the alley off East Street ). My husband and I clearly remember The Who concert tragedy in Cincinnati when eleven fans were killed. It was horrific. Some of the fans who died were close to us in age. One young couple died together. They could have been us. I believe it was that Who concert tragedy which led to changes in the way in which crowds are controlled at concerts in the U.S.

I agree with you about Who's Next. I think it is the band's best studio album. Not only did LZ IV come out at the end of '71 here are some other greats from that year (and I know I'm leaving many out): Sticky Fingers LA Woman Aqualung Pearl Imagine The Yes Album