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We all know the FBI and CIA is at fault for the 9/11 attacks, due to their failure to enact on the threat which they thought was not serious. The two agencies failed to share information with each other as well which was the protocol back in the Clinton era initiated by Janet Reno. I know this is true.

Well, they certainly failed miserably. That is not in dispute. The question is how did they fail? Were they outsmarted by 19 Islamakazi party-animals led by a heroine runner with a laptop on the other side of the globe, or were the FBI, CIA and DOD compromised from within?

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Well, they certainly failed miserably. That is not in dispute. The question is how did they fail? Were they outsmarted by 19 Islamakazi party-animals led by a heroine runner with a laptop on the other side of the globe, or were the FBI, CIA and DOD compromised from within?

Who knows? Maybe the truth will come out some day, through an investigation. But it's not like the U.S. Government or any government by any means would admit the truth when they're at fault. Cover ups, sugar coating, dodging the issue etc.

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Who knows? Maybe the truth will come out some day, through an investigation. But it's not like the U.S. Government or any government by any means would admit the truth when they're at fault. Cover ups, sugar coating, dodging the issue etc.

Seems to me that some of the answers are already plain to see. Just because you don't hear Wolfe Blitzer telling you the truth doesn't mean it isn't true. Speaking of 9/11/01 here's an interesting tidbit.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-1952734561498548380&hl=en

Google removed this three times, and blocked it once

For reasons yet to be explained, Google has repeatedly removed this video from their server. In the first week that it was up, it had 1,474 views before it was removed. It caught fire recently and received about 5000 hits in a matter of a few days before it was taken down again. The evident pattern is that it is not removed as long as it is getting little attention.

This is a mind-boggling interview with Lewis Paul Bremer III (who ended up as the pro-council of Iraq.)

On 09/11/01 Bremer was the Chairman and CEO of Marsh Political Risk Practice which had offices in the WTC as did its parent company Marsh USA. They had a total of 1,700 employees assigned to the WTC. Bremer, himself, had an office in the South Tower. Nonetheless, this "counter-terrorism expert" makes no mention of any of this only three hours after the first plane flew directly into seven of the eight floors of WTC 1 occupied by Marsh USA. He is here on television prognosticating about who will turn out to be the culprits, with calm detachment. What is wrong with this picture?

The opinions of Emad Salem and Andreas Strassmeir would be of interest in this matter.

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Lewis Paul Bremer: Nat'l Commission on Terrorism

Gentzler: "We want to turn now to a guest who is

joining us in the studio. It's Paul Bremer. I want to make sure

I'm getting your name right because I'm just meeting you. You're

a terrorism expert?" Bremer: "Counter-terrorism, I

hope." Gentzler:"And can talk to us a little bit about

who could...I mean there are a limited number of groups who could

be responsible for something of this magnitude. Right?"

Bremer: "Yes, this is a very well planned, very well

coordinated attack, which suggests it's very well organized

centrally. And there are only three or four candidates in the

world really who could have conducted this attack."

Vance:"Bin Laden comes to mind right away, Mr. Bremer."

Bremer: "Indeed, he certainly does. Bin Laden was

involved in the first attack on the World Trade Center, which had

as its intentions doing exactly what happened here, which was to

collapse both towers. He certainly has to be a prime suspect.

But there are others in the Middle East. There are at least two

states, Iran and Iraq which should least remain on the list

of."

Gentzler:"What kind of coordination? How could something

like this be put together."

Bremer:"First of all, you've got to find some people

who are willing to die. And then, of course, they have to find

ways around what we thought was pretty good security at our

airports. We haven't had a hijacking in a long time. Let alone

four. So there had to be good coordination. There has to have

been coordination in the whole planning of the attack. The

people, if they were not Americans, they needed visas to get into

the United States. They needed false identities to by Airline

tickets. They needed cars to get to the Airport. There's a whole

lot of stuff that had to happen here."

Gentzler:"With as many resources as our government, and

our allies' governments around the world devote to studying

terrorism, and knowing what's going on, and what they're planning,

you have to wonder how something of this magnitude, how this could

take place without any warning or any hint that it was coming."

Bremer:"Well, first of all, the intelligence against

terrorists is the hardest intelligence to gather. Basically, you

have to have a spy in the terrorist group who's willing to talk to

you, for whatever reason. It's the hardest intelligence there is

to... The National Commission on Terrorism which I chaired last

year, made as our key recommendation much more effort to try to get

terrorist spies, informing on their colleagues to us."

"Every time there is a major terrorist attack, it is

automatically, of course, an intelligence failure. That's by

definition. But I'm sympathetic to the problem about how you get

good intelligence on these people. It's not easy. There is an

intelligence failure here. There is a massive security failure,

where we have four airplanes being hijacked on the same morning.

Two from Dulles Airport it appears. So there's a lot of lessons

that have to be learned. First we have to find out who did

it."

Vance:"Mr. Bremer, I want to speak to that for a second.

When the Oklahoma City incident occurred, the immediate response

from a lot of people was that it came from some Arab terrorist

group. Is there any reasons why we aught to be cautious about that

kind of an assumption on this particular incident, on these

incidents?"

Bremer:"Well, of course. What you have to work with at

this stage, since we don't have any hard intelligence, apparently,

we don't have any forensic evidence, is motivations and

capabilities. And so when I list four potential groups I'm working

mostly from motivations and proven capabilities in the past.

[That] doesn't mean you can exclude that some other group

could have come out of nowhere and done this. But, at least as a

working hypothesis in the first chaotic hours here after this

attack, you have to start somewhere. And you have to start with

what you know about the past and which groups have motives."

Vance:"One of the things that the President said today

from Florida, early on, was that the United States will respond to

this, and he left it at that. Is it to be assumed that the first

thing we have to figure out is to identify precisely who it is

we're going to respond against?"

Bremer:"Of course. Basically we has sort of a four

stage operation. First we've got to hope and help we can save as

many people ... as possible. Stabilize the situation at the

Pentagon and in New York. Secondly we need to get to work in

trying to identify the perpetrators. And then, thirdly, we come to

the question about retaliation. And fourthly, which goes along,

all along, at the same time is what are the lessons we learned?

What did we learn about the intelligence failure? What did we

learn about the security failure? And who do we move forward in

the future on these areas."

Vance:"I don't recall anything like this. Pearl Harbor

happened a month before I was born, and I hear my parents talk

about it all the time as a seminal event in their lives all the

time. I am not aware of anything like this in the United States

before. Americans are now, I think it's fair to say, really

scared. Should we be?"

Gentzler:"This is a day that will change our lives,

isn't it?"

Bremer:"It is a day that will change our lives. It's

a day that the war that the terrorists declared on the United

States, and after all they did declare a way on us, has been

brought home to the United States in a much more dramatic way than

we've seen before. So it will change our lives."

"I do think it's important, and I'm sure the President and

his colleagues when they start talking about this, it's important

to hit some ballance. The American way of life is not threatened

by these people, unless we threaten it ourselves. If we start

throwing away the democratic freedoms and the civil liberties that

are at the heart of our society, that's what their after. And

that's what we can't allow to have happen. And we've got to go

about our business. People have got to move around."

"I was diverted on a plane this morning. I was trying to get

to New York, and wound up in Baltimore. I in a way was sort of at

least relieved to see business as usual going on between people.

We have to go on with our lives. It's not to say we don't take it

seriously. We take it very seriously. But it's not something

where we can all jump in a foxhole somewhere and hope the world

doesn't come and bother us. We have to find a ballanced response.

One that makes it absolutely clear, as the President said this

morning, that we're not going to tolerate this act of war. This

will have consequences for the people who did it. Very, I hope

very severe consequences. The most sever military response we can

come up with. But we also have to remember that we've got a way

of life to protect, and that this is not an existential threat to

the United States."

Gentzler:"Paul Bremer, thank you."

Vance: "We appreciate it, Mr. Bremer, thank you very

much."

Gentzler:"We should make it clear that there has been

no claim of responsibility ... "Bremer:"I

understand." Gentzler:"...at this point to, uh, for

any of these incidents."

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Interesting interview. Who transcribed this interview, because there are quite a few grammatical errors in this? Just curious as when there are a lot of errors it can reduce the validity of something like this.

Edit: Just watched the interview and Bremer is very knowledgeable about the situation and has a lot of details. This is just shortly after the attacks...the day after perhaps? So this is no conspiracy.

It's interesting that the Oklahoma City bombing was mentioned. That's a strange one as I've always had my doubts about that one. The details regarding that, never made sense to me, but that's probably better for another thread.

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Interesting interview. Who transcribed this interview, because there are quite a few grammatical errors in this? Just curious as when there are a lot of errors it can reduce the validity of something like this.

It was transcribed to reflect exactly what was said. I figured that was safer than trying to correct grammar and run the risk of being accused of misquoting.

Of course when we talk about Bremer, we have to remember who mentored him through his early career, and employed him from 1989 through 2000.

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Don't let the facts get in the way of your imperialist agenda.

Couldnt agree more, your link is totally correct,

As the Frogs say. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité"

or as the Yanks say "We are taking a Liberty, You are not our Equals, We are not your Brothers"

or as the English say. "Whats for Breakfast, Whats for Lunch, Whats for Dinner"

Regards, Danny

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