joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 At last the Liverpool supporters have been exonerated in the deaths of 96 of them. As everybody already knew it was police negligence. I haven't bought a certain newspaper since that day, and it still amazes me that people still buy it. I hope they print a grovelling apology for their comments, my sympathies to the families, from an Evertonian to all Liverpool supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yes, agreed, a very sombre day. The Sun have printed apologies but I will still never buy it. I find it laughable how many people are blaming Thatcher. She's like an all-round punch-bag. I'll never forget that day and the tragedy that unfolded. It's true that some fans were not well-behaved, and some of the footage of them climbing walls and gates to get in, with the police struggling to control them, is uncomfortable to watch, but there is no justification for what unfolded and the way people tried to cover it up and shift blame in the most revolting ways possible. It's one thing to try to avoid blame, quite another to slander the dead. A long time coming, but we can be thankful that the truth was revealed in our lifetimes. Maybe the report should be read by the gun-toting "America is the greatest country in the world" idiot who insisted that these people had died due to "soccer riots" and "hooligans". But he'll never admit he was wrong ( even though we know he still comes here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yes, agreed, a very sombre day. The Sun have printed apologies but I will still never buy it. I find it laughable how many people are blaming Thatcher. She's like an all-round punch-bag. I'll never forget that day and the tragedy that unfolded. It's true that some fans were not well-behaved, and some of the footage of them climbing walls and gates to get in, with the police struggling to control them, is uncomfortable to watch, but there is no justification for what unfolded and the way people tried to cover it up and shift blame in the most revolting ways possible. It's one thing to try to avoid blame, quite another to slander the dead. A long time coming, but we can be thankful that the truth was revealed in our lifetimes. Maybe the report should be read by the gun-toting "America is the greatest country in the world" idiot who insisted that these people had died due to "soccer riots" and "hooligans". But he'll never admit he was wrong ( even though we know he still comes here). Well said, especially gun toting america, their police would have shot more people than sadly died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well said, especially gun toting america, their police would have shot more people than sadly died These generalizations are uncalled for, especially from someone not living in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 These generalizations are uncalled for, especially from someone not living in this country. Sorry I didn't realise "this website" was a country, at least I use my name and where I live. So american police don't shoot anybody then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 These generalizations are uncalled for, especially from someone not living in this country. I know you have quoted Joe here, but to clarify, my comment was aimed at one particular member. I have no such attitude to the whole of America, and I hope we can all move away from that potential debate, which isn't needed here. Back on topic, this article may help those unfamiliar with the story http://www.dailymail...ow-justice.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 I know you have quoted Joe here, but to clarify, my comment was aimed at one particular member. I have no such attitude to the whole of America, and I hope we can all move away from that potential debate, which isn't needed here. Back on topic, this article may help those unfamiliar with the story http://www.dailymail...ow-justice.html Well said...... this is about police blaming Liverpool supporters for an incident which is now proved to be the British police's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Sorry I didn't realise "this website" was a country, at least I use my name and where I live. So american police don't shoot anybody then? Do you want a badge of honor or something? American police do shoot people, so do police in England. It is your assumption American police would have shot people and possibly more people than died is off base and uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 P.S. It is good the truth came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Do you want a badge of honor or something? American police do shoot people, so do police in England. It is your assumption American police would have shot people and possibly more people than died is off base and uncalled for. Why on Earth would I want a badge of honour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 P.S. It is good the truth came out. It certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 It certainly is. Hear Hear. At least we are all agreed on that, but I bet that no police officer will be charged in relation to the deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Joe I think it would be pretty tough to prove any case now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe (Liverpool) Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 I think (from what I heard on the news) that there is some damning evidence against the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well we an only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I have a feeling that there will be prosecutions. There must be a record of the person/s that authorised the alteration of and who altered witness statements Name them and shame them. They should also be prosecuted. The Police were ill prepared that tragic day, they should have known that there would be hundreds of fans turning up ticketless,that's something that always happens at important games. Contingency plans should have been in place. And as for the Police that cried that they had a bad day and claimed and were awarded compensation should be made to pay that money back. Police claiming compensation was shameful and for what, Doing their job? I'm sure the majority of the relatives of the 96 were not looking for financial gain. They just wanted the truth and the justice they have for so long been waiting for and finally got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well said, especially gun toting america, their police would have shot more people than sadly died To be fair Joe our Police can be just as bad...ie the [Edit]Jean Charles de Menzes.... tube station shooting. Thanks Knebby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JTM Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 To be fair Joe our Police can be just as bad...ie the [Edit]Jean Charles de Menzes.... tube station shooting. Thanks Knebby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The police have to be accountable and the FA too as apparently the ground had no safety license. It dosen't surprise me that the filth covered their tracks. The 80's were a shambles with the ridiculous laws brought in by Thatcher and her right wing government. The police wantedly assulted travellers at The Battle Of the Beanfield, The Miners strike and Stonehenge. My mates brother was in the filth at the time and he gloated,like many, with their wage packets waved in front of miners. I hope that there are criminal proceedings brought against these vile and disgraceful actions of these people. Years too late in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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