Clari Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hello everybody! I'm Clara, writing from Argentina. I've just become a memeber because last night I was driving in my car with some friends and listening D'Yer Mak'er and when the song started a friend told me "That's Sean Kingston's song" I told her she was completly wrong and then completly for got it, but today as I was watching TV I saw the song and remembered, so I kept on watching and when I heard the chorus I was mad as hell! I couldn't believe it! Did he o ir did he not steal the song? Thank you for reading me, and I'm sorry if I'm writing something that isn't true or if I offend anyone. Best wishes. Clara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Doesn't matter. Zeppelin would look ridiculous if they sue, considering their history on the subject. Kingston probably paid royalties anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hi Clara, Sean Kingston did not "steal" the song. If you look at the writing credits for "Me Love", you'll see that it's credited to Page/Plant/Bonham/Jones/Kingston/Rotem. Kingston is paying royalties just like anyone else who records a Led Zeppelin song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan715 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I don't really understand how rolaties work, did he have to get permission from the boys to use these songs? He also used 2 other songs. I think he used a Phil Collins song, don't know the name. It does go I can feel it coming in the air tonight... And he also used Stand By Me, don't know if it was the Lennon of King version but that is besides the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I don't really understand how rolaties work, did he have to get permission from the boys to use these songs? He also used 2 other songs. I think he used a Phil Collins song, don't know the name. It does go I can feel it coming in the air tonight... And he also used Stand By Me, don't know if it was the Lennon of King version but that is besides the point. If you record another artists' song, the royalties come from any sale of the album, the original artist gets a certain portion of the profits. Controversy has ensued when artists do this but pass the song off as their own, rather than crediting the original songwriter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan715 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 But did Jimmy actually give permission to him to use the song? I've heard this rapper's song and I don't think Jimmy would give permission for it to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 But did Jimmy actually give permission to him to use the song? I've heard this rapper's song and I don't think Jimmy would give permission for it to be used. Page also worked with Puff Daddy so you never know. Then again, I'm not sure the original artist has to actually be contacted for permission, the songwriters just have to be credited so they can receive royalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 As long as the original songwriter's name appears as a writing credit, they are not legally bound to sue. Edited to Add: This is why Page/Plant got in so much hot water with Willie Dixon and why other artists have publically lashed out at other artists' having ripped them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Page also worked with Puff Daddy so you never know. Then again, I'm not sure the original artist has to actually be contacted for permission, the songwriters just have to be credited so they can receive royalties. I wouldn't think so either as long as they're credited. It's possible I suppose that some artists may have stipulations about certain songs being recorded by other artists but I've not heard of any offhand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert's Plant Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hello everybody! I'm Clara, writing from Argentina. I've just become a memeber because last night I was driving in my car with some friends and listening D'Yer Mak'er and when the song started a friend told me "That's Sean Kingston's song" I told her she was completly wrong and then completly for got it, but today as I was watching TV I saw the song and remembered, so I kept on watching and when I heard the chorus I was mad as hell! I couldn't believe it! Did he o ir did he not steal the song? Thank you for reading me, and I'm sorry if I'm writing something that isn't true or if I offend anyone. Best wishes. Clara and boy what an ug rendition. no one gets suicidal with his copycat remix that's for sure. edit: P.S. and hello to you clara. bienvenidos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachman Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 its called a sample.. he paid royalties for it.. his record company has to.. and zepps was based on rosie and the originals trying to do doowop and its an original song but it was based on that band in the 1950s but the chorus was plants lyrics and he legally (kingston) sampled it .. its a terrible song but he didnt do it illegally is what im saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I don't really understand how rolaties work, did he have to get permission from the boys to use these songs? If you do a straight cover of a song, you do NOT have to get permission. But if you decide to re-write a song or combine 2 songs (like Kingston did), then you DO need to get permission. Otherwise, Jimmy could have sued for 100% of the royalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If you do a straight cover of a song, you do NOT have to get permission. But if you decide to re-write a song or combine 2 songs (like Kingston did), then you DO need to get permission. Otherwise, Jimmy could have sued for 100% of the royalties. exactly but kingston legally did it..so no issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 exactly but kingston legally did it..so no issue The fact that Zep is credited as co-writers is an indication that 1 of 2 things must have happened: 1. he got permission. or 2. he got sued. You can't create a medley of 2 songs without getting permission of ALL the songwriters involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The fact that Zep is credited as co-writers is an indication that 1 of 2 things must have happened: 1. he got permission. or 2. he got sued. You can't create a medley of 2 songs without getting permission of ALL the songwriters involved. it would have been a huge lawsuit and would have been all over the news..all rappers hip hop fags do it.. sample rock n roll esp zeppelin and bonzo's beats.. i would almost guarantee kingston did the right thing cuz u dont mess with pagey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 it would have been a huge lawsuit and would have been all over the news.. Then Kingston must have received permission to alter the song. There is no other explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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