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Darth Hoek

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    All Led Zeppelin with a focus on Jimmy Page and his solo work, Electric/ Acoustic 6 and 12 string Guitars, Vinyl Records + turntables, mountain biking/hiking, Reading/Writing, Political Activism, Gardening, carpentry, Vintage N64, ps4, Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Poe, Lovecraft, King, Vonnegut, Bradbury, cooking, drinking, and Rock & Roll.

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  1. Darth Hoek

    Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes

    I think I thought Worcester seemed better since I was seated on the lawn at the great woods show and the sound usually is pretty piss poor there; even now that it is the Comcast Xfinity Center. I remember seeing Phish there two years ago or three years ago and the sound cut out for most of the show on the lawn and it was really bad overall. Additionally, I also really like some of the dive bars in Worcester, so maybe I was a bit biased. For the Crowes and Page, the performance prob was better at Great Woods given the amount of time they had been playing together at that point. I'm a bit fuzzy on it I suppose from having too much fun tailgating before the show. I need to look up the Great Woods Show Setlist now....
  2. Darth Hoek

    Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes

    I was at the Worcester show as well John M. what an amazing show! The Centrum is a bit smaller of a venue so the view was pretty great from the balcony where I was seated. Favorite songs for me at this show were ten years gone and shapes of things. I remember I thought it funny that the first run of these shows were in LA, New York, and Worcester of all places before they announced the larger tour...I was glad they came here but why not Boston? I also was at the Great Woods show later that following summer; the one where the who was playing back to back nights...was very good, but not as good as the Worcester show.
  3. In regards to the idea of this new streaming service and concerns over no physical releases...some may remember what Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes did when they initially released Night at the Greek on cd. It wasn't the full 2 cd set or 3 vinyl rsd release album we got a bit later on...instead, you could pick what songs you wanted from the full set and they would send you a disc with the songs that you had picked. Could anyone see that sort of model being applied to this new live zep streaming service? Check off shows or a mix of tunes, design the printing on a box, and then get a tidy little customized multi-disc box set in the mail or a single cd. Jimmy thought it was a great idea with the crowes, so why wouldn't this fly here? I would buy mixes of my favorite shows in HQ on a monthly basis and I am sure many others would as well given the bulk of the fans age group is a bit older (myself included). As far as I know, the idea really never got off the ground after this early 2000's release, but the model could be applied to other media other than cd's as well... And then there is the current vinyl craze...I don't think that the zep camp would want to miss out on exploiting the people who are happy to pay $120.00 for a single concert on a few records. I would never pay that much for HTWWW... not to offend those that did because it is a really great album, but I already had my old copy and no extra cash for it on vinyl. Would they offer the pick your tunes model here as well? Or just pick the most streamed show once they look over subscriber listening trends on their service a few months after launch? Or just pick a few shows that they all agree on and put them on cheaper to press hd vinyl? Not trying to hijack the thread; I just feel that this may be a possibility. It would almost be similar to amazon's book printing model but with cd's or vinyl. For the vinyl the new laser groove cutting tech coming out soon in the form of hd vinyl this will likely reduce the production costs for vinyl since it can cut a record as a cd drive etches a cd, so they could make "choose your own" records as well if they wanted. I would buy a few of those for sure...
  4. Darth Hoek

    Is Jimmy Page done making music?

    Remember how great George Harrison's album Brainwashed was? With this in mind, I hope we don't have to finally hear Jimmy's last 10 or so unfinished songs under the same circumstances!...and Jimmy doesn't have Dahni and Jeffy Lynne to finish them up like George did! Sorry to be so dark, but thinking again about how Jimmy is totally waiting for that zep train that will never come. And Stephen Tyler says there are no hits in the bunch of original material... this was him trying to publicly downplay what he knew he f'd up at the not-zep rehearsal I am sure just to save his giant ego. I remember reading that he was not able to remember lyrics to any zep tunes and generally sucked at singing zep during this try-out or whatever it was. Aerosmith should have hung it up after 1977; pandora's box pretty much sums up everything worthwhile they ever did...songs like Pink; yeah Stephen Tyler knows what a good song sounds like...and I haven't even mentioned his disgusting foray into country music! However Brad Whitford is the man in my book and one of the unsung heroes...
  5. Darth Hoek

    Is Jimmy Page done making music?

    I have posted on this thread before and it keeps coming back up...I think the time has passed for Jimmy to play new music or for him to tour extensively. It kills me to say it, but I have come to accept it in the years since the O2. I tried to get tickets to the O2 using so many friends email addresses (like 20 different emails), but apparently Paris Hilton was a bigger fan than I, so she was able to secure a ticket through the lottery just like everyone else while I waited at the computer for poor quality youtube vids the night of the show. You can tell I am not bitter at all... Back to Jimmy playing live again or recording; I would say "but if...," or "he should have recorded with Roy Harper," but it has all been said before and he will not go out again there unless it is some version of what he created in 1968.....and we all know the chances of that panning out. I held out for 10 years for my old bandmates because I was so comfortable with what we had...I also wasted 10 years of the artistic part of my life during this pathetic vigil, reinforced by a jam session with my old mates every three to six months or so and with me only playing acoustic open mic nights in local bars and coffehouses. I finally got completely disgusted after our last time playing a few months back. Now I am playing with some people 10 years younger than myself; it was hard at first, but now it fits like a glove. We are primarily a cover band and have yet to play out, but I can relate to Jimmy's inactivity in some small way I suppose...as far as the longing for what was once so comfortable goes. Jimmy has had so many opportunities to play with whomever he wants but held out for his true love in the Zeppelin...such a classically tragic and romantic story. Aging is a real bitch.
  6. Darth Hoek

    Cause of plant/JPJ friction

    It is really good that there wasn't a spark anywhere near RP's Aqua Net of a head during this interview! I can certainly say that cultural differences and trying to impress a pretty girl are all reasons why RP would reply"John Paul Jones" to many band names during the word association "game;" including really enthusiastically to Zep. Moreover, I think he is trying to distance himself as much as possible from anything considered "old," and to ally himself with the MTV youth culture of 1988, so let's make fun of JPJ, as of course he is old and stodgy unlike Robert, right? I really like the hand on the knee Robert pulls on the interviewer as well...so very English! (I am absolutely kidding UK!) IMO Robert seems to have always had a need to be a bit of a DB in interviews to his old band mates so as to feel relevant when any new music of his is about to drop. I guess that's what happens when you were the 4th best musician in the greatest band that ever existed. Interestingly enough, JPJ played on and produced a slew of college alternative bands in the late 80's and 90's and remained more of a part of youth culture overall. In high school (89-93), I remember him playing with or producing the Butthole Surfers, Lenny Kravitz, The Foo Fighters, and REM among others. And let's not forget TVC - my god that f'n album is a masterpiece and is full of youthful creativity and energy without a doubt (it would have even been better if Jimmy played guitar on it tho!). And yes, the Mick Jagger comment is very kind for sure.
  7. Darth Hoek

    Walking Into Clarksdale - Rediscovered

    This album was not what I expected at the time but had some good hooks that I still really enjoy. Most high is a nice use of the cacgce tuning, please read the letter is a standout song, and it has a "sun studios" type sound. The minimalist production, drum sound, and the reverb laden guitar tone is in line with the minimalist blues that the title of the album suggests, and it makes this album unique to my ear (at least the cd I have of it). As noted many times before here, the 1998 tour to support WIC was way better than the 94/95 tour for NQ. I saw it and can certainly vouch for that. Jimmy's playing was his best in years and surely him stealing the spotlight by really excelling at his instrument again must have bothered some of those he shared it with on some level. I would love to hear some of the Page/Michael Lee sessions from the 1999/2000 sessions that Robert reportedly rejected. I would also love to see an expanded 180g vinyl come out for Walking into Clarksdale. I always am looking for a copy on Discogs and Amazon and they are always in the $130 to $200 range depending on quality. A bit too rich for me...It seems the demand for Zeppelin and related on vinyl is certainly most high given how well the RSD release sold last month, so this release is not so unrealistic to imagine.
  8. I just returned from Amsterdam where I was able to get a copy of this while on vacation. We arrived on Saturday at 4 pm and after going to a few shops I was unable to find a store that sold anything but house, metal, and dance music; I was quickly discouraged and went to buy a space cake. Mmmmm space cake.... On Sunday, after some research online, I went to a shop called Record Palace; the owner had a copy on hold for someone who hadn't shown up and sold it to me for 20 euro...better than ebay prices anyways. Nice guy at this shop; he also sold me a copy of Johnny Kidd and the Pirates on vinyl as well for 28 EU. Shop-keep genuinely seemed to be happy to see someone get so much joy from his products and i didn't feel robbed by his prices. It was a much better experience than standing in line at the shitty mall here in Massachusetts on RSD to just see some douche-bag ebay seller grab every copy and then the fight the rest for the scraps. Stupid Newbury comics killed all the local shops in the suburbs of Mass long ago... Listened to the 45 yesterday when I got back; rock and roll is a bit more punchy and the drums have more space/ambience i guess. Alternate levels and guitar fills are all over it and the solo is a bit different in the same way. Some of Jimmy's fills seem meandering or exploratory in a way and this gives me some insight into his creative process; perhaps this is the point of these releases?. Friends is a nice b side and the removal of the strings really makes a huge difference in how you hear the vocal, tabla, and guitar. It is sad to see this item going for over $50 on ebay right now. RSD is very broken in my opinion.
  9. Darth Hoek

    Elvis vs. Plant

    Elvis' voice changed less over time for sure while Robert systematically destroyed his voice through abuse (smoking, drinking, performing while sick as hell, not sleeping, ect.), but adapted to the changes by becoming a more versitile singer. Elvis' music is not as damaging to the the pipes as zep; the heavier side of the zeppelin catalogue is destructive as hell to sing at full volume to the human voice over time. Look at the vocal ranges on the albums...singing the songs on anything post pg is much easier; even though the songs are some of their best, the top range sung on them is significantly lower than on the earlier albums at least to my voice and ear. In my opinion the boots I have available support this timeline as far as live performance goes. I watched the black and white Danish TV special from 1968/69 and then listened to a 1980 Brussles show off youtube and the difference in Robert's overall range is quite obviously reduced and often uses the aid of some miserable first gen octave effect on the early tunes to make up the difference. Robert did and has adapted to these changes very well and is still one of the best singers around without a doubt; not being ableto sing something the same way your 20 year old self wrote it 50 years later is not something to be embarrassed about it is just a fact of life. Also, Elvis didn't smoke and took pills rather than drink to excess as his chosen vice, and while still terrible for the body pills do not directly jack up your larynx like Robert's 10 year + assault on his voice box with whatever passed his way did. Singing every night with an infected throat while still puffing it all is going to change your voice for the worse too. Let's say Robert came out of 1973 still with the strong push behind the pipes, but the pipes were a bit dented and jammed up so they didn't quite resonate the same way as before. I feel Robert is and was an great enough musician to recognize the changes in his range and then adapt his singing to them in a style that was even better than before, since Presence is f'n amazing! Sadly, Elvis was a lounge act during his last years and was in residency in vegas as far as I am aware; as such, he wasn't dealing with the same rigors of the road and madness that someone on a Zeppelin tour would have undergone. Imagine how exhausting that sort of endless and raging nomads's lifestyle must have been... Finally, since some of this thread has turned into a bit of a "list your favorite vocalists" I will throw that in as well here for S&G's. I think Elvis is the best rock vocalist who came out of the 50's (although Little Richard could scream better than anyone at the time for sure), Robert Plant is the best who came out of the 60's, and Freddy Mercury (yes, the obviously undeserving Freddy Mercury!) is the greatest who came out of the 70's. Late 80's and 90's goes to Mr. Mike Patton of Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, Fantomas, and countless other band's fame. The guy has soul, is absolutely crazy, and has a six octave range...of course, obviously I am impressed by vocal range; others may be more into a soulful style, gutteral grunting in time to a double kick drum, or a country twang (hopefully not!). Of couse this is all my opinion so there you go...
  10. Darth Hoek

    Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes

    I also was at 10/16/99 in Worcester, Ma. Saw them again the following summer again at the old mansfield great woods (xfinity center now)...both shows were epic and let jimmy showcase all the skills he had regained during the 1998 P & P tour. His talent was such around the year 2000 that when he came out of Black Crowes tour he should have kept going with Chris Cornell, JPJ, and Mike Bordin or something as he was as talented and relevant as he ever would be again, at least until the o2 happened. Or he really could have made a go of it long term with the Crowes as they were certainly the real deal as far heavy blues acts go. As mentioned elsewhere on this post he said his back was the culprit...such a pity! I have the three disc, white vinyl of the Live at the Greek album. I feel that the ten years gone and the trio of sloppy drunk, shapes of things to come, and woke up this morning are the best tracks on the album. Solo from shapes is fantastic...and ten years gone has all the guitar tracks being played out live, so good! One of the funniest memories of this time was the Conan Obrien appearance of Page and the Crowes. They did Your Time is Gonna Come and Wonton Song and then during the interview, the masturbating bear came running out and attacked Jimmy and Chris Robinson. Such a simpler time it was...
  11. Even better...a typo, not just ignorance of the artists names!
  12. The John Lennon error is really funny...it is food for thought to think how a simple misprint on a boot can get a rumor like this going. I am sure most of the bootleggers didn't consider themselves archivers of this knowledge; for them it was certainly a money game. One could have a whole thread on the topic of mislabeled boots as it is pretty interesting.
  13. I wonder how it became attributed to Page with Winwood? Just the incorrect label from a bootleg?
  14. The store I got the boot in question from wasn't in Cambridge, but across the bridge on Newbury street back when it was cool like Cambridge still tries to be tower records was on one end of Newbury and boston common is on the other...There were a lot of great shops in Cambridge back then as well and I bought some troublesome sampling rate bootleg cdr's there as well a few years later that wouldn't function in my first gen cd player. This specific copy with the spanish guitar and keys likely falsely attributed to Winwood was on was on a cassette tape and this was in 1991, as I said it is long gone now. These boots were expensive ($18-$25), were labeled miserablely, and were at least 10th generation recordings and it sounded like it, but pre-you tube and 2004 DVD we thought they were the best thing. They would be in an easily moveable/hideable box on the counter called "imports" but everyone knew what was in there. The shops knew that the rocker kids who had gotten a sweet taste of the rare and unfiltered live zep would come back to get their fix no matter the price of the crappy recordings so they churned them out by the hundreds. In Boston 90% of the old shops are long gone and are now miserable clothing botiques, circle-jerk art galleries, and spas that change hands every year or so and mostly serve the obliviously rich tourists types staying in the air b+b's that have taken over downtown boston and sent rents and prices into the stratosphere (it is plain to see that I am not bitter at all!)...there are only newbury comics and Armageddon in Cambridge left now. Does anyone remember hearing that the keys on this were attributed to WInwood? Now I am curious again about this and I can't find anything conclusive on the internet (big surprise!).
  15. My CD version of this is in fine shape from the early 2000's. I have no reason whatsoever to spend $100 USD on the same thing but on vinyl. If it had more tunes than on the original it would be different story, but I likely would buy the CD. Others have said this here before, but this release certainly is a matter of Page just wanting to get the whole catalogue on vinyl and the house in order before he releases the new stuff. This release actually seems rushed to me given the pace of all the other promotional stuff over the past few years. Honestly, to me modern live shows which have been heavily digitally edited on vinyl vs. digital/cd are not as profoundly different or benefit from the format to my ear as a studio recording on vinyl vs. digital/cd does. I am sure that this idea has been discussed here before, but for modern versions of live shows I am usually happy with a cd or download.
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