Anyone who has seen the photos of the Silverdome show on this site or in media coverage of the event can see that the stage was higher and the crowd further back than Madison Square Garden. The staging for the Silverdome was similar to their stage setup for the Kingdome and Oakland-Alameda Coliseum that same tour.

Week 18 picks. Pittsburgh Indianapolis (The South Rule is in effect...any team you pick from the AFC or NFC South Divisions will fuck you over) Tampa Bay (See above) Cleveland Detroit New England New Orleans (More South doom) Tennessee (Ugh...a quartet of cursed South matchups) Arizona (A sizeable percentage of Seattle fans want Pete Carroll gone) Green Bay Las Vegas Kansas City Giants San Francisco Washington Miami

The Who were the first band to play the Silverdome when it opened in 1975. Elvis Presley, Elton John, and several big rock and jazz festivals were held all through the year 1976 before Led Zeppelin landed at the Silverdome in 1977. I imagine Showco had a hand in a few of those events, if not all. As for tape existing of the Silverdome concert. Of the four big events where we have 100% evidence of Led Zeppelin using big video screens to project images for the audience (1975 Earls Court, 1977 Silverdome, 1977 Seattle Kingdome, and 1979 Knebworth), we have tapes for three of those events...Earls Court, Seattle, and Knebworth. Two of those events were multitracked as well, suggesting the band was eyeing a possible release of the show in the future...those being Earls Court and Knebworth. Which makes the existence of video tapes for those shows logical. The cynic might therefore doubt the existence of Silverdome videotape, given the lack of multitracks which suggests the band had no interest in having any tapes recorded of the Silverdome gig for historical or other purposes. Ah, but what about the existence of Seattle Kingdome videotape? That show wasn't multitracked either, yet we have videotape for it. So, since we have videotapes for 3 of the 4 video screen events, whether the show was multitracked or not, reason says that there are probably videotapes of the Silverdome show. It's just been more highly guarded than the others were. I guess that woman who stole a bunch of tapes from Jimmy Page's house couldn't get her fingers on them.

On my Youtube TV. The genius of Pierre Jaquet-Droz and his 18th century automatons.

You'll hear plenty of trash talk if Buffalo loses to Miami. Hahaha.

Seems like you are the only one obsessing about it. Paul already made his picks before you and Bong-Man puts his picks in the same way every week. Don't overthink it.

Happy 78th birthday John Paul Jones!

Good riddance.

No, there have been those with only 1 or 2 losses for the week in years past. Nobody has gone undefeated for the week, though.

It's the last week of the season. Two games on Saturday and the rest all on Sunday. Buffalo at Miami finishes up the season. Realistically, only three people are in the running for the championship: LedZeppfan1977, Bong-Man, and paul carruthers. Good luck. Week 18 Schedule Saturday Jan. 6 Pittsburgh Steelers at Baltimore Ravens 4:30 p.m. ET (ESPN/ABC) Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts 8:15 p.m. ET (ESPN/ABC) Sunday Jan. 7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Carolina Panthers 1:00 p.m. ET (FOX) Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals 1:00 p.m. ET (CBS) Minnesota Vikings at Detroit Lions 1:00 p.m. ET (FOX) New York Jets at New England Patriots 1:00 p.m. ET (FOX) Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints 1:00 p.m. ET (CBS) Jacksonville Jaguars at Tennessee Titans 1:00 p.m. ET (CBS) Seattle Seahawks at Arizona Cardinals 4:25 p.m. ET (FOX) Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers 4:25 p.m. ET (CBS) Denver Broncos at Las Vegas Raiders 4:25 p.m. ET (FOX) Kansas City Chiefs at Los Angeles Chargers 4:25 p.m. ET (CBS) Philadelphia Eagles at New York Giants 4:25 p.m. ET (CBS) Los Angeles Rams at San Francisco 49ers 4:25 p.m. ET (FOX) Dallas Cowboys at Washington Commanders 4:25 p.m. ET (FOX) Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins 8:20 p.m. ET (NBC)

How is 2024 so far for everyone? The last day of 2023 was extra nice for paul carruthers, who won the week with a 13-3 record! Congratulations PC! Bong-Man and paul carruthers both made up ground on LedZeppfan1977, who finished 8-8. But it was painful marking greengrass's card. I literally had to cross out the first eight games on his card with a loss. So, with one week to go here are the numbers. Week 17 Results paul carruthers: 13-3* Bong-Man: 12-4 custard pie man: 12-4 redrum: 11-5 Strider: 11-5 Walter: 10-6 ebk: 9-7 jabe: 9-7 LedZeppfan1977: 8-8 greengrass: 2-14 Season Standings After 256 Games 1. LedZeppfan1977***: 163-93 2. Bong-Man****: 159-97 3. paul carruthers***: 158-98 4. Walter*****: 152-104 4. ebk***: 152-104 5. custard pie man*: 151-105 6. jabe*****: 150-106 6. Strider**: 150-106 7. redrum****: 144-112 8. greengrass***: 133-123

Happy New Year to the Forum! May 2024 bring a smile to your face. 🥂

Ok.

Sheagles.

Fact. All things considered I find Aikman to be fairly even-sided.

Last steak 'n' eggs of the year.

Cleveland - W Dallas - W Baltimore Buffalo Chicago Tennessee Indianapolis Carolina Rams Philadelphia Tampa Bay San Francisco Seattle Denver Kansas City Green Bay

Goff once again shows why he can't be trusted. If Detroit's run game is clicking and their defense shows up, they have a chance to maybe win a game or two in the playoffs. But if they have to rely on Goff to make throws, forget it. He might get lucky on one of every four throws. But the other three will be intercepted or thrown too short and low for the receiver to do anything. As we saw on that last 2-point conversion.

Dallas. I think a little home cookin' gets Dallas right.

Hmmm. I have been on this site for at least 20 years so there must be some posts I have written about their shows. Certainly the 1977 Whisky shows and I believe the 1981 tour and the 1983 US Festival and the 1984 Monsters of Rock in Nürnberg. Of course, Van Halen live and Led Zeppelin live (especially by the time I saw them) were two different animals. Van Halen was never going to give you a three-hour show. They were unbridled adrenaline rock at its purest. Only AC/DC could rival them for pure non-stop energy. No fucking ballads...at least not until Sammy Hagar entered the fray. And Van Halen was smart by putting the drum solo (never longer than five minutes) after the second song when the crowd's energy was still at a peak. If only they had ditched Michael's useless bass solos. I can always tell the internet idiots when discussing Van Halen...they're the ones who parrot Eddie Trunk and say Dave couldn't sing in concert. They're usually the same idiots who listen to one bad 1977 tour soundboard and proclaim Jimmy Page was always smacked out and sloppy live.

Cleveland rocks!

WOW! First the 1978 Van Halen drop on Christmas and now THIS!!! Spectacular news.

Sounds nice. I grilled a nice ribeye steak, baked some sweet potatoes, mashed some Yukon Gold potatoes, sautéed some spinach, warmed some sourdough bread, and opened a bottle of 2021 Cline Zinfandel..and watched the 49ers-Ravens game. For dessert, peach praline pie and vanilla ice cream and Glögg and watched "Christmas in Connecticut".