Cool to see some Ringo love in this thread because he damn sure didn't get any in one of the other drummer threads on the board. I'd also heard the stories about him not playing on some of the records but never knew the details. Learn something new every day, thanks for the history lesson.

1996. When searching online for it I was surprised to learn it's evidently one of the many featured songs on Guitar Hero so at least it hasn't been lost to time.

Speaking of old 80s alternative (which sort of ties in with U2) I was recently listening to the "classic alternative" (now there's an oxymoron for ya) station on XM before the merger when I heard an old Flesh For Lulu song called I Go Crazy. Somehow that one managed to pass me by. Hell, I never even knew it had been included on the soundtrack to the movie Some Kind of Wonderful. Maybe that's because I never saw that movie. I think after I saw Heathers I never felt the need to see another "teen" movie again as that one pretty much said it all. On the subject of Flesh for Lulu, Paul Westerberg covers their song Postcards from Paradise on hidden track that on his Stereo record from a few years back.

Though obviously not intentional I always thought it was a fitting title for their last ever proper studio album.

Blue Cheer is actually credited with being the first hard rock band. As for Zeppelin, at least one third of their recorded output is acoustic. Yeah, their music can also be "heavy" but there's so much more to them that such as the world music aspect. They also drew heavily from rockabilly and country music.

Not to make everyone feel old or anything but the album I heard Camp Granada one was one of the many discoveries I made as a kid thanks to my parents' record collection. This one been posted yet? Of course they're probably just as well known (or maybe not) as the band that does the theme song to King of the Hill. The lead singer is in a band these days called Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers.

You can do a free trial thing if you like just to see if you're going to like it. More info here. A great show for discovering musical artists both new and old is Sound Opinions which you can listen to either online or via your local NPR affiliate. There's no shortage of very good new music out there it's just up to the individual if they want to make the effort to find it or not.

I haven't listened to "mainstream" radio in I don't know how long. Several years back I found myself listening to nothing but the local NPR affiliate and CDs since local radio had gone to shit so I subscribed to XM and haven't looked back since. Admittedly it's not as good since the merger with Sirius but it still beats what local radio has to offer (aside from the college stations). The Deep Tracks channel (one of the mainstays from XM) plays lots of the music I grew up on but with much more variety than you'll ever hear on "Classic Rock" radio. There's also channels for new music, old and new alternative, reggae, and almost anything you can think of. There's also tons of choices of stations to listen to through the innerwebz that offer much more than the same ol' same ol'. It also depends on just how serious you are about seeking out new music. Some seem content to be stuck in the past by listening to what's safe and comfortable. Personally I'm always seeking out new music in hopes of discovering that one album I never want to take out of the CD player. Lately, those have been new records by the Gourds, Tinariwen and the Gaslight Anthem.

I've never gone through a broker to get tickets and usually have pretty good luck scoring seats. Being a part of pre-sales (usually through the artists' fanclub) does help a great deal though. This past year I had great seats for R.E.M. (front row), Plant/Krauss and Wilco thanks to pre-sales.

I don't think You Shook Me All Night Long or Whole Lotta Rosie have anything at all to do with either You Shook Me or Whole Lotta Love.

There's been other threads like this before but on the Grateful Dead tip I'd also highly recommend the newly expanded two disc edition of Reckoning. More Grateful Dead recommendations here.

How's it going fellow One Hit Wonder fanatics? Careful mentioning Seals & Crofts or ZeppFanForever will start an entire thread on them. ROCK ON!

It's not the case now but for quite some time Molly Hatchet toured with no original members. Blackfoot currently tours without founding member, frontman and principle songwriter Rickey Medlocke (who's in Lynyrd Skynyrd these days). The Marshall Tucker Band tours with only one original member, lead singer Doug Gray. I'm a fan of all of those bands but have no interest whatsoever in seeing any of them. Thing is, people will turn out in droves to see them because they might not have any knowledge (or care) who is or who isn't in the band. They just want to hear the songs as they're used to hearing them on the radio. As for tribute bands, what you're saying may very well be true but I don't have any interest in seeing any of them. If I'm going to spend money to see a band I'm much more likely to spend it on a band that does original material, not a group of imitators. Well, unless it's the midget Kiss (I understand there's at least two of them but there may be more).

Or a Mac. Not to start a Mac vs. PC thread but I think there's only been one reported instance of a virus on a Mac over the years. Most viruses are created to infiltrate e-mail programs such as Outlook so even using a non-Mircosoft related e-mail program is a step in the right direction. At least from what I understand.

Agreed but as Swede pointed out in another thread, even a group with all of it's original members doesn't necessarily guarantee that it's going to be good. They stand just as good a chance of sucking as a band that's missing one (or several) key members.

I don't think artists are really all that conscious about just making it in the U.S. It's a challenge (especially these days) just trying to get on the radio since playlists are even more restrictive than ever. I realize they're an established act but R.E.M. are bigger in Europe than they are in the U.S. During their last tour they only played a handful of dates here but did a much more extensive tour overseas.

I haven't followed every page of this discussion but right now my money would be on the Kinks (who obviously didn't form in the 70s), especially since it appears any chance of a Faces reunion appears to have been shot down, at least for now.

Very cool to see some fans of Buddy and Julie Miller here, especially Julie. I know her voice can be a bit of an acquired taste but her Broken Things record has long been on my ever growing Most Wanted list.

The Amboy Dukes formed in the 60s. Their one and only hit was Journey To the Centre of Your Mind which hardly puts them "second to Zeppelin" as far as popularity is concerned. Not to even mention, the chances of them reforming are extremely slim. Even if they were to reform, I seriously doubt it would register more than a mere blip on the radar.

I agree, I know there are exceptions but I believe it's usually only the inductees that take part in the jam (aside from members of the "house" band). I think the jam finale had even disappeared (or at least wasn't televised in recent years). It finally reappeared last year when Patti Smith, members of R.E.M. and other inductees did I Wanna Be Your Dog. A protest of sorts since the Stooges have yet to be inducted. We even got Peter Buck tossing an amp! Folks these days don't seem to know how lucky they have it, during the first few years the ceremonies themselves weren't even televised.

I have no idea. If you search for "ARMS Concert" under TV & Movies on Amazon it also yields these results, neither of which feature the artwork seen on the original VHS editions: A.R.M.S. Concert Vol. 1 (Special Edition) A.R.M.S. Concert Vol. 2 My VHS tapes (which were also packaged in two volumes) look like this: Then again, the artwork for the original edition of The Song Remains the Same (not the new, expanded version) isn't the same as it was on VHS either.

I was also surprised to see so many songs on that countdown spoken about with such revelry except my reaction was quite the opposite. Back when some of those bands like Boston, Journey, Kansas, Foreigner, etc, were new they weren't all necessarily considered shitty. Some music magazines may have accused them of being "faceless", "corporate rock" or "formulaic" but the fans (then and now) didn't always agree with that. That didn't come until years later when people had time to put some distance between them and the time when those groups were new. Now we have compilations of music that is referred to as "mullet rock" (see this collection or the soundtrack to Joe Dirt). I found the countdown somewhat refreshing since so many of those groups that are now considered "uncool" to like were actually included. It may not have changed my opinion of some of them but I found it refreshing to see them listed nonetheless. No matter, I will always love Foghat. I don't give a flying fuck if someone considers me unhip for doing so. To me, it isn't about some sort of "hipster" cred, it's about the music that moves me. I could give a shit what other people think. As for the commentators, I'm not sure what's up with that. Especially ones like Dee Snider. I guess it's his reality show celebrity status that qualifies him because Twisted Sister were little more than one hit wonders and superbly talentless at that.

It's been years since I've attended MerleFest but I enjoyed it a great deal every time I went. People tend to think of it as a "bluegrass" festival but I believe it's billed as the "world's premiere acoustic festival" since the music isn't all bluegrass. You also get blues, gospel, zydeco, folk, country, rock, etc. Even Hootie and the Blowfish were there one year but that's because they attended as fans of MerleFest more than anything else. It's also no coincidence that Darius Rucker now has a country album out. On the subject of Merlefest and similar festivals, it's a wonder that John Paul Jones hasn't fallen under nearly the same amount of scrutiny here as Plant and Krauss, especially given his appearances at Merlefest and Bonnaroo where he's appeared with Gillian Welch, the Duhks and Uncle Earl (who's record he also produced). That music is much more "bluegrass" than anything you'll hear on Raising Sand. On the subject of yodeling, one group I discovered through the Oxford American compilations is the DeZurik Sisters. You can check out their song The Arizona Yodeler which appeared on the 2005 Southern Music Sampler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNYDyXn6qso.

Some photos of the Truckers and South San Gabriel from night one of their current three night stand at the 40 Watt in Athens and Centro-matic from night two from local photographer (and real estate agent) Daniel Peiken.

What is this record? I'm familiar with Point of Know Return but I haven't heard of this one.