AlexKx Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 My point being is what ideology is Logan following that he hates the American dollar so much? Especially since he has or is going to have so much more of them than we can possibly ever imagine ourselves? What a hypocrite! Like father, like son as some of you have put it. I don't mind criticizing the U.S. as all people are not perfect but the accusations that Robert and Logan make undermine those who make the greatest sacrifices FOR THEM who benefit the most!! There are VERY few people who have benefited from the freedoms that Robert Plant and his family have relentlessly enjoyed. Listen I hope that I am wrong and am missing the point. Please don't bash me but inform me how what I am seeing is different from my perception? Led Zeppelin NEVER had to resort to explicit language to express themselves and get their points across. I've most usually percieved people who resort to that being invdividuals who could not make their point otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 My point being is what ideology is Logan following that he hates the American dollar so much? Especially since he has or is going to have so much more of them than we can possibly ever imagine ourselves? What a hypocrite! Like father, like son as some of you have put it. Where did you get this idea? I have yet to see evidence that either Logan or Robert "hate the american dollar" as you put it. I don't mind criticizing the U.S. as all people are not perfect but the accusations that Robert and Logan make undermine those who make the greatest sacrifices FOR THEM who benefit the most!! What the hell is wrong with you? Listen I hope that I am wrong and am missing the point. Please don't bash me but inform me how what I am seeing is different from my perception? Led Zeppelin NEVER had to resort to explicit language to express themselves and get their points across. I've most usually percieved people who resort to that being invdividuals who could not make their point otherwise. The problem is not that your view is different than, say mine, the problem is that you have imagined something for which there is absolutely no evidence for. Until you can show that either Logan or Robert have a problem with America, stop accusing them of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexKx Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Ever heard of "Freedom Fries"? How about "Network News"? Do YOU think that was complimentary picture of Logan on his website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Ever heard of "Freedom Fries"? How about "Network News"? Uhm... where within these songs are the anti-american lyrics? I'll save you the time of hunting down the lyrics: Freedom Fries Lyrics The father, son and the Holy Ghost Took the last train to the coast They were moving fast, they were raising sand They were running wild in the promised land The father, son and the three wise men Operating undercover out in Bethlehem Will they heal the sick? Can they raise the dead? Can they bring it on home like the good book says? Billy the Kid told the Prince of Thieves, A little give and take to satisfy my needs You can give me lots but I'll take some more I got my eyes on your treasure beneath the desert floor? Freedom fries and burns and scars The liberator goes too far Freedom fries and screams and yells The promised land is promised hell Network News Lyrics Guns, death and noise Sand, oil and blood Frontiers drawn on paper No consideration made for The poor creature who is living By the grace of God just giving He's live on network news Live on network news Flags, princes, kings Patriotic tools As freedom lies in twisted heaps Whose final breath his soul to keep Whose greatest foe, the endless sleep Whose dying wish to reach next week A bloody star on the network news A bloody star on the network news Tanks, boats and planes Fire, pain and lies Environmental terrorists Tease propaganda's paper fist Whose trade is all the truth that fits Who often lies but never sits But on the fence it's the network news Yes, on the fence it's network news The lion and the serpent parade out in the sun All order, flex and gesture All hail - the techno infidel has come With satellite bravado and infra-red texture Beyond these days in time to come Whose fate is it to measure Upon these sands such damage done To spoil God's finest treasure Beyond these days [etc repeated] Guns, death and noise Sand, oil and blood Guns, death and noise Sand, oil and blood The only line that appears at first to perhaps be "anti-US" is the "Flags, princes, kings, Patriotic tools, as freedom lies in twisted heaps," but that could be many countries (assuming it's directed at just one country). Feel free to show me where these lyrics are, but as of now it appears you're full of crap. Do YOU think that was complimentary picture of Logan on his website? So his jacket said fuck you and that MUST be directed at the US? Bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejanablonde Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I agree with GTLO. I don't see the lyrics as particularly anti- USA. As I understand, British, Canadian & US soldiers are at war. I see lyrics directed at a war that is based on oil supply- not at the US in general (I for one agree with Logan & will send my son to Canada or elsewhere for extended studies when he becomes draft age). I'm not asking for agreement with any political view. Just reviewing the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I agree with GTLO. I don't see the lyrics as particularly anti- USA. As I understand, British, Canadian & US soldiers are at war. I see lyrics directed at a war that is based on oil supply- not at the US in general (I for one agree with Logan & will send my son to Canada or elsewhere for extended studies when he becomes draft age). I'm not asking for agreement with any political view. Just reviewing the lyrics. I really don't think there is much of an argument about it at all, the guy who said Logan and/or Robert were anti-US was just spouting off non sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejanablonde Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I really don't think there is much of an argument about it at all, the guy who said Logan and/or Robert were anti-US was just spouting off non sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Wow, you click that link and you can see there's no class there. What a joke, having vulgarities inside a jacket. Geez, and I had such high expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I know it's off topic but I just have to say Knebby, it's sooooooo great to have you back here :cheer: Okay, back on topic (I seem to be doing this a lot lately ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I know it's off topic but I just have to say Knebby, it's sooooooo great to have you back here :cheer: Aw thanks chuck. Happy New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Aw thanks chuck. Happy New Year! Right back at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Right back at you Thought folks who may have missed these links would enjoy seeing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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