Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Sumo, you are the one that is being rude here. There is no reason to call anyone an asshole or an idiot. Your post just proves that you are not capable of dealing with criticism. To be a tad bit blunt: You are an ignorant amateur with delusions of stardom, and nothing more. Thanks for no longer posting videos, my cats really appreciate it. I can deal with criticism, I just don't agree! There is no such thing as doing wrong in art! Fuck off! My latest concert with Slovenian stars was a great success not a delusion! Everyone's music and art is a delusion and yet it is not, because as I said there is no wrong in art and success is the only measure and I'm having more and more of it and yet I don't need it, I just like my art and it's good to me and to more and more people and remember critics didn't like Zeppelin at all in the old days! And I called Stormbringer an idiot because people have called me all sorts of things on this forum and stormbringer just said something very stupid that he does not know about my past and yet he read about it in this topic and it's completely possible it affected his writing and I don't care, I like my art and that's it! But anyway that is not in my style so Stormbringer sorry, but it still think your comment is not clever at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Knebs Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 really want to see a new video of you singing Live In front of an audience or just to record it... One take, one track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Are you the same Samo that everyone talks about? This is my first time really paying attention/commenting to your post, even though I am familiar with you.. Samo, I listened to your stuff openly, like I do with everything. While some of the comments against your music sound harsh, they are not far from the truth. I think you need to know this, from someone else besides the few that have posted. If you do not realize this with your own ears you must at least try and respect and take the advice and constructive criticism that people have given you. If you don't want the feedback (good or bad), do not post it here for people to listen and judge. You should know already from being a member here that people are critical towards one another to begin with, sometimes for the most petty and ridiculous things you can imagine. You must have "thick skin" here at times. As a musician, (I can relate to you) and I can understand why you hold you music so dear and close, because it is YOU making the music. Maybe to your own ears it sounds good? But Samo, I have to tell you that you may have better luck taking another avenue in life, if you are by any chance trying to pursue a career in music. I have listened/watched your videos (all of them at one point or another) There is no proper or steady rhythm in any of your songs and the key you are singing in is all over the place. So, to correct you, there actually IS a proper way to present an Art-form, art, etc. Especially in music, there is a right and wrong way for the arranger/writer of the material to execute notes, tones and a consistent rhythm pattern properly to which the listener can embrace and consume the vibe of the song. These are basic elements you must focus on. With some lessons, you may improve? Being a Led Zeppelin fan, you must know about good music. If this is what makes you happy, by all means GO FOR IT. I commend you for doing something in life that satisfies you and that you have a passion for. It also keeps you out of trouble, I would guess. So for that, I am happy for you. But Samo, people here will give you their opinion, and from what I have read they are honest observations (although harsh) they are correct. Again, I stress - maybe you should think about taking lessons. Some people have a natural ability to play music, as some do in sports (natural athletes) ..Unfortunately, I don't believe you are one of them. Keep trying and good luck to you in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Well I'm aware I improvise the melody in Eleanor Rigby a bit, but I like it and it's partially done in the way a known Slovenian singer improvises it! And I know I have weird ryhtm pattern sometimes yes, but my band is still willing to participate and get challenged to play it and quite a lot of music has strange rhytm patterns and I don't agree te key i'm singin in is all over the place, althugh it does take some strange twists and turns a few times! But I know which chords I use and I could also play the rhytms more straight but I don't want to, I want the guitar and the vocals to complement each other! But I like my music to be as it is and yes, I do agrre there are some objective things in music that perhaps should be there and one thing that certainly is there is that I always perform my singing with the same melodies(my audience knows that I'm capable of repeating my songs in the same way) and I'm shure my melodies fit on the chords and even if I stretch some of the melodies some times, I'm still sure they fit on the chords and I also know I use the right chord combinations, atleast because I learned from other people's music, icluding Led Zeppelin who constantly broke the rules! But ultimately there is no right or wrong in music! Sure music does not appear in vacuum, there is a musical history behind it and I think my music is more then enough connected with it! It's impossible it wouldn't be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 For example my song Road: Shure the rhytms are broken many times and not in the same way when I play it alone to complement my singin and the mood, but the band still followed it in their own way! And in the first verse the chords are d minor, G and a minor! What's wrong with that? Zeppelin used it in All of my love! Then at moment of 0:39 you get to the pre chorus and you still got the same chords and at 0:50 I just raise it an octave just like Zeppelin in Going to California and at 0:55 you get the C major chord to make it sound a bit more bright and then to the chorus which is G, C, D which is a very typical cadence and then at 1:26 you get the second part of the chorus which is again an a minor, that makes it a bit more dark because of the lyrics and right after that you got a C and D again to finish the chorus! And the second verse at 1:38 starts with a d minor, G and a minor again and then at 1:47 I raise it an octave again and you got G and C chords again which are constantly in the song, then the next verse at 1:53 is C and A and that fits because it's also constantly in the song as a minor and then at 2:01 you got C and D again! Then the second pre chours as the first one at 2:11, then the chorus again and at 3:08 the main part of the chrorus is raised an octave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm also completely healty now and also finaly very well accepted in my community, people are trully carring and loving to me, they like my music, they care for the writing on my blog and they also finnaly accepted that the social criticism which many that read the blog like alot is not some sort of messiah new age guru stuff just social criticism like many people do and that I am and always was an atheist who believes in scientific explanations and strong ethics, even if I had some sort of religious delusions at one point and I also became very ambitious with my music during mania, but now people accept it realising it was never greed or wish of fame and addorance by the audience, just deep love for music and strong ambition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Just to refresh the minds about what Sumo is all about, here is a thread he started in 2008 to promote his noodling, and tell his "very sad story" for the umpteenth time. I guess since then nothing has changed, some of the comments are hilarious though. "we get to go through this again with a whole new group of people". "This wasn't supposed to make me laugh". "hearing you sing and play is like watching two ducks, who can´t swim, fuck in water". "I'm trying to be sensitive, here, and you go all Pythonic on me. I could pee my pants right now. Poor kid, god bless 'im" "I choked on my tea... It went everywhere on the screen! " "My cat's name is Sammy. Coincidence?" "hmm, not for me, sorry, out of key singing, instrument notes are way off, a mess in my ears. being honest here, no flaming please. sounds karoaoke-like". "how many times have you gone through this? How many times have you posted your songs on the message board? How many times have people told you the same things, over and over again? Yet you STILL insist that they are wrong? Samo, please!!! The problem is not you or your singing, or the people and their comments, its your inability to handle critism and accept truth". "yes, the problem is the singing, and it doesn't match the notes of the song either. it's a mess! got it? you hear me?!" "so all in all, i think it's bad, real bad. hell, i could do better, and i KNOW i can't sing!" "There's no beginning to his talent" "Yes, it is out of key! You're looking like someone who's seeking for attention". "If you don't care, then why do you post your songs on here and ask people for their opinions. It makes no sense. Go ahead, sing your little off key heart out, but don't post it here and then get offended when people give you their critisms". "that is the best version of Stairway to Heaven backwards I have ever heard in my life!" "oh dear... he's got led zeppelin wrong and is now trying his hand at the flintstones theme with similar results... " "i retract my past statements in this thread.. i hadnt listened to much more than a few seconds..this is blasphemous. Get vocal lessons they'll make a world of difference" "the singer can't sing, period." "hey Samo, ever heard of Florence Foster Jenkins??" "One word about this thread, Weird" "Florence Foster Jenkins. What a voice! I was always a bit sceptical on the subject of reincarnaton until i heard this lady, for want of a better word, singing! It appears she is alive and well, and singing Led Zeppelin through Samo " "Samo has said he did throw his demos onto Jimmy's lawn" etcetera etcetera Although he does not longer stalk Jimmy and Robert, the sob remains the same. http://forums.ledzep...__fromsearch__1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 I just performed with the biggest stars in Slovenia yesterday and nothing has changed!!?? I had so many concerts from 2010 till now it's hard to believe for two years of doing music! And that topic is from 2008 and I didn't perform at all from 2008 to 2010 and I had my very first performance in my entire life in year 2006 and from 2006 to 2008 I only played very small gigs in my home town with no media support and now I'm having more and more success, infact it's unbeliveable how much succes, for such a short period of time! And if it hard for you to grasp my songs reswati, then listen my version Stairway, it's perfectly clear here that the intonation is as it is suppose to be compared to the original! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Samo, good luck to you my friend. Enjoy your journey and do whatever makes you happy. Just don't expect many to be on that journey with you when it comes to tolerating your creative output. Because quite frankly, it's terribly hard to withstand. I doesn't take a musical guru to realize this. I read your post above in which you state that your music (or at least this song) "is partially done in the way a known Slovenian singer improvises it"! If that is the case, no wonder we will never hear of any break-through artist in your region. Samo, there IS a right and wrong way to present, write, play, perform music. Breaking rules and using odd time signatures within a song like Zeppelin did, doesn't mean they sang/played out of tune, couldn't regulate a stationary rhythm and sounded like a goat in heat in the process. You have to have some kind of APPEAL. Your timing is WAY off Samo, without any question. Get yourself a METRONOME, by all means-please. How do you expect people or any living thing to listen to your "music" if you have no foundation or steady groove. I can see you know a few things about notes, and can play to your "own" rhythm, but playing in a sequence that's listenable for others is quite another thing. Otherwise there wouldn't be a such thing as a MUSICIAN. Anyone and everyone with NO musical talent whatsoever (from 2 years old to 90) would pick up an instrument and play. And call it ART, because that's what it's supposed to sound like? (to the composer) Samo,There is a BIG difference between music, and noise. Take Care, Sincerely-RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Rock historian you have your opinon and I don't agree and that's it and you can have it and there is no need to continue this and yes there is no wrong in music or art and only time will tell, not you! And times are getting really good for me! And by the way what do you do for a living? And reswati thanks for bringing the mess back, luckily it's just in a years old topic not in real current life! And a lot has changed since then, I am more and more succcessful, I'm healthy, my father always earned 3000 euros a month and is one of the top computer specialists in the country and my brothers have become medical doctors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Rock historian you have your opinon and I don't agree and that's it and you can have it and there is no need to continue this and yes there is no wrong in music or art and only time will tell, not you! And times are getting really good for me! And by the way what do you do for a living? And reswati thanks for bringing the mess back, luckily it's just in a years old topic not in real current life! And a lot has changed since then, I am more and more succcessful, I'm healthy, my father always earned 3000 euros a month and is one of the top computer specialists in the country and my brothers have become medical doctors! What do you think of William Hung? Would you say he is a musical talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 No he is not, he is of key and not in the sense of improvising a melody, he has no volume-power, his vocal color is average and ultimately as I said there is no wrong in art but still there are some 'rules' which if there are present will ensure you a far greater success then most people, but unfortunately this is where we disaggre rock historian, because I believe I have this characteristics! And what do you do for a living? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Please come and tour outside of Gfatzk, (the world is very big and there are dozens of people with eggs and tomatoes who haven't had the pleasure to exchange musically generated vibes with you in the real world) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ni he is not. he is of key and not in the sense of improvising a melody, he has no volume-power, his vocal color is average I rest my case Samo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Have a nice time Rock Historian! Hope you keep enjoyng the forum in the next few days, without having to take a rest from all this! Also reswati, I wish you all best too, have a nice time, I know you don't like my music and it's always a bit hard to take that, but I wish you all best! I know it's hard when everything mixes up, all this stigma still floating in the society and then the fact you don't like my music and me not taking criticism too well in the old days, but I hope it's all allright! Keep smilling like on the photo and standing like Robert, I do that too sometimes and perhaps I will never be on the big stage at all, I can take that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 And a lot has changed since then, I am more and more succcessful, I'm healthy, my father always earned 3000 euros a month and is one of the top computer specialists in the country and my brothers have become medical doctors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thans for kind words haha! Peace! I think I can do that if I don't brush my teeth hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 And if it hard for you to grasp my songs reswati, then listen my version Stairway, it's perfectly clear here that the intonation is as it is suppose to be compared to the original! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 guys, can't we just join hands..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1fan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I should move there id b a super star lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 I just found out my clock has got an inbuild metronome! I don't give a fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thans for kind words haha! Peace! I think I can do that if I don't brush my teeth hahaha! This words above used to be the response to reswati saying keep squeezing the skunk but then he changed it to kisisng my ass, he likes it that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well if we get this topic up to a 1000 views, we could make the Beatles popular before Lennon departs into a screaming Yoko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Dirigible Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I just found out my clock has got an inbuild metronome! I don't give a fuck! This words above used to be the response to reswati saying keep squeezing the skunk but then he changed it to kisisng my ass, he likes it that way! Well if we get this topic up to a 1000 views, we could make the Beatles popular before Lennon departs into a screaming Yoko! That is the most insane trio of posts I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Thanks for the award! Who from this forum is in the jury!? And if I may suggest, reswati is better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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