Ramble On, a song so nice, they played it twice...

Can one truly quantify the depths of ones fandom? What does absolute zero feel like? Do deaf people know when they fart?

Oh Jesus, will people just get over the fact Plant does not want to be in a reformed Zeppelin again. Regardless of the reason. What I find so silly about this is no one would ask a guy to get back with an ex-spouse simply because they threw some awesome parties back in the day; nor would they wish some woman to go back to work at a McDonalds drive-thru as she did at 16 due to the outcry of several ex-patrons who really dug her sweet speaker voice. The man does not want to get the band back together and I for one applaud this stance. It is not 1982, Plant is almost 70 and I really don't care what anyone says, rock is a young persons game and even if Plant had the vocal abilities ala 1971 he would look like a goddamned fool at 70 belting out WLL as he did in 1972 or whatever. I am not being ageist per se, but such a visual is akin to a 70 year old woman, regardless of shape, walking around in a pair of fuck me pumps, Juicy sweats, and a sports bra...no thanks. Rock, and ESPECIALLY Zeppelin, were all about attitude and projection. You cannot recapture lighting in a bottle. Let it go....let it goooooo...

Damn right it was, some obviously more than others. Berlioz & Wagner were seriously metal, and as mentioned before the diminished fifth from baroque.

Yes, and then the morality police can go to the liquor store and do the same on the way to merchants who sell tobacco and or porn. With some hard work and perseverance, we can be just like Saudi Arabia or Children of the Corn in no time.

I will believe it when I see it, after all, Walmart just closed 68 Sam's Clubs which resulted in the termination of over 10,000 employees. Also, I know of no one who has gotten a large raise last year or is expecting a large raise this year. Most companies will continue with the standard "cost of living" increase which is actually, typically, 1 or 2% below the actual COL / CPI increase. Just remember, a company can announce ANYTHING, it does not mean they will actually do it. Also, please remember, the stock market performing as it is has zero bearing on the overall economy. More than 83% of all stock are held by the 1%. The stocks are performing so well due to the reduction of regulations which allow windfall profits. We are essentially, back in the Gilded Age. On a final note, the stock market is also artificially inflated akin to a bubble. Most economists believe we are in for a major correction around August / September 2018 and a loss of around 10,000 point would not be unexpected. Also, interest rates will likely start going up around that time in an effort to curb out of control inflation. So, I suggest (for people in the market such as I) to begin moving your investments out of high gain or moderate gain stocks and into low gain, low risk such as public utilities and T notes otherwise you could easily lose half of your portfolio. Real Estate will also likely take a hit, but a small one, maybe a max of 7% devaluation, however rental prices are really going up so if you do invest in real estate, even though the property may take a slight dive in value, you can more than make up for it with the increased rental income. Another great investment will be in marijuana related stock, that shit is going up, up, up and would not be affected by a downturn in the stock market. Sessions will not, nor can do a damn thing about weed at this point whether he knows it or not. That horse left the barn once Cali legalized it for recreational use. That being said, please do your research into a company before you invest. Weed is a growing (get it) market but all the positive indicators mean squat if the company is being mismanaged so be sure to check out quarterly and annual statements before investing.

Not quite. Unlike our politicians, all males in the royal family are required to serve in the military and to my knowledge, every one has served on the front lines in combat during times of war. Also, they are pretty much the vanguard for all charitable endeavors in the UK and act as ambassadors of good will across the globe. So in reality, they do work quite hard. My only quip with the Royal Family is that they pretty much control the bulk of European Banking. They are shit ton rich yet they did not really make a dime of it. All old money pilfered from countries like India and Africa + compound interest over centuries. So like anything else, a mixed bag.

Well, of course but...where is the profit in THAT! Criminalization = tons and tons of sweet cash for several different industries. Money is typically the root of the problem.

I agree, this is bullshit Kip. If you are so crazy to argue in a menacing manner / assault an armed officer, you need mental evaluation. I mean come on already, the state can legally kill you in such circumstance and everyone knows this. Why are people like this allowed to go on their way without evaluation? 20+ years ago my friends father was a hard core meth addict (at almost 60 no less). He showed up at my friends apartment, broke in through the window, and assaulted my friend before he knocked his father on his ass. My friend then called the cops. The cops showed up, searched him and found a few grams of meth. My friends dad began to argue with the police some seriously delusional, meth monster bullshit. They just took his meth and made him go on his way. They did jack shit! Just to clarify, I am talking about people who are clearly nutters who are threatening violence against the police or assaulting the police, not people practicing civil disobedience or simply questioning a police officers opinion / actions.

Oh no, I love it actually, even if it is a wee bit fast. Everyone is on, Plant sounds good. Good version overall and I too really like the 80' tour.

Damn...cocaine, one helluva drug! That is way over tempo and Jimmy uses almost pure legato on the opening riff at twice the normal tempo. Jimmy's solo is really good on this but again, a bit too fast.

Yep, he was knee deep in the shit, this is why he turned down the Yardbirds gig when Clapton left. Once he got back, that's when he joins the Yardbirds. This is also the reason neither the Yardbirds or Zep used pyrotechnic affects such as flashpots until 73'. Page would have wanted to "get some" and heaven forbid if Yoko was at a gig

You know Chill, with the whole economic loss Brexit will bring to the UK along with ongoing challenges, the MP's may have no choice but to legalize weed in an effort to drum up revenue. I would hate that weed finally becomes legal due to dire straits but it is something that maybe a positive can come from so many negatives.

Rather have that vs. "...um, I need to borrow some extra large glad bags, a few bottles of bleach and, by the way...do you by any chance own a chainsaw?"

Such a great character actor..you will be missed Donnelly, aka Dr. Cottle, aka Dutch. Rest in peace

I believe you did not read my post because if you did, you would not have wasted your time posting information irrelevant to my point. What you say and what you posted does not relate to my argument in any way, however I would like it if you would please explain why you posted irrelevant info and then claim it is I who is high. My point, and only point, is that: 1. California is the 7th largest economy in the world. 2. California pays more money to the federal government than the federal government pays to California. 3. Without California's financial contribution to the federal government, the nations economy would likely collapse. 4. If California was its own nation and was no longer paying money to the Fed it would be in a much, much better financial situation. Everything I posted is both provable and indisputable yet you chose to respond with completely irrelevant info regarding how much the state of California doles out to its citizenry on the welfare rolls (the fed does not pay these benefits, California does). So, as to the financial health and prosperity of the STATE it is indeed doing extremely well. What the state pays to citizens is a completely different issue. This is why I mentioned in an earlier post why the Fed needs to stay out of the business of social engineering and leave social issues such as weed to the states. If you live in a state like California, NY, WA, etc. you pay much higher state and property taxes, however you also get much more benefits, services, social safety nets, less expensive and much, much better education. If you live in say Kansas you pay significantly less in state and property taxes, unfortunately the tradeoff is shitty schools, shitty or non-existent benefits, little services. So, if a person is retired and no longer raising children, Kansas or Arizona are much better economic options. If you are raising children and need better, less expensive education, CA, NY, WA are the better economic bets because though taxes are higher, the benefit of service and quality of services makes up for it for those who take advantage of such. The end result is the Fed can bluster and crow all they want but at the end of the day, screwing with California would be akin to a gold digger kicking her sugar daddy in the balls and fucking his broke, shitheel brother. She may be proud of her defiance in the moment, but she will be feeling the hunger pangs and experiencing the opportunities of homeless street life very soon as a result of her impetious and ill conceived actions. Legal weed is here, legal weed will stay.

wow dude, you really are high. California contributes far, far, FAR more money to the fed than the other way around. Let me put it this way, if Cali were to secede and become its own nation it would flourish way beyond where it currently is while the US would suffer horribly and likely collapse from an economic standpoint. As I said before The US losing that sweet California money would be akin to Canada losing that sweet Alberta money. In either case, both nations would collapse as a result. As Strider said, it is the red states which are the massive welfare queens of the nation whereas the blue states contribute far more to the Fed than the Fed contributes to them. Fiscal conservative...HA! Talk about an oxymoron.

I literally relish the day Sessions decides to go balls deep on this and sends federal agents to bust a dispensary in Cali. The look on Sessions and Trump's face when they find out the whole cadre of Feds are cooling their heels in a local jail cell will be priceless. All the Fed has are the small cohort of federal agents (FBI & ATF) at their disposal. The entire field staff of both agencies is not anywhere near the size of the LA County Police Dept. The Fed cannot use military forces or personnel within the US as that would violate the constitution. However, the states can call up the National Guard to deny federal access. Of course the President could try and place the NG under federal control but that would be tantamount to martial law. You really think the executive would be that insanely stupid to do a damn thing against something with a 68% approval of the national citizenry? Even someone as moronically stupid and narcissistic as Trump would be stopped by his own people.

I agree, this is a travesty without a doubt. Jan Winner is just a jerk, anyone he does not like does not get in or takes forever, with him finally bowing to public and private opinion. The Moody Blues were an extremely influential group and should have been inducted in the mid 90's without a doubt.

Neither did I until I learned it in a college anthropology class. Even through HS what Steve quoted was taught as truth so it is not his fault. American education system for ya but this bit of info is always thrown around due to what is taught in schools. Before the industrial revolution the average lifespan of an adult male was around 42 because infant mortality was around 60+%. So, if you take out death rates, infant - 12 years, we get back to the true average of around 67 years old which was a very constant number for centuries until advances in medical science. As long as a person made it past 12 they were good to go as the majority of deaths were due to childhood illness.

But of course, 40 years of accepted science be damned ! I will immediately notify the APA and let them know Kipper does not believe in addictive personality disorders. I am sure they will put out a new version of the DSM to reflect this ASAP. Typically, it would be called the DSM-V TR but since you have all the answers they will surely refer to it as the DSM-V KR for Kipper Revised.

Not quite. You see, that number is a mean average which included all age groups including infants. As infant mortality was very high at the turn of the century, this brought the average down as a result. The average age for those who lived past 12 years old was around 66 for men and 69 for women.

Does this mean old Robert did not start whipping out his dick at photoshoots until 1979?

Most contemporary heroin addicts (last 20 years) started as a result of the over-perscrition of opioid painkillers by their doctors. The ones prior are a mixed bag: alcohol, weed, coke, LSD, you name it. The fact is, there really is no gateway drug, you either have an addictive personality or you do not. Believe it or not there are many, many casual and recreational users of heroin out there who never develop an addiction. There has never been drug in existence on this planet where if a person does it once, or even a handful of times will become addicted unless they have the addictive personality traits required. Of course even those without a predisposition to addiction can become addicts if they are exposed to physically addicting substances such as opioids over the long term but in general, the fact is there really is no gateway drug. However, if you really want to lay the blame than alcohol & tobacco are your true culprits as both are physically addicting substances and very easily accessible...plus, they are socially acceptable as well.

Goddamned Fritz the Cat. Believe it or not they had that and the sequel on Netflix for about six months. That is until someone realized it was a cartoon porno drug flick and they pulled both. The first one is a classic, the second one is a complete mess, a bad acid trip. Ah Fritz, we miss you. Ah, um, back to the topic.... We used to go to the Cini-Capri and Scottsdale Fashion Square back in the early and mid 80's and alternate between TSRTS, TRHPS, The Wall, and Heavy Metal. I had a friend who was the most homophobic person, a real characture in the flesh and had no clue what TRHPS was about, he thought it really was a horror movie. Imagine his surprise when we introduced him to it at the midnight movies. When we were standing in line for the tickets he was getting suspicious with all the punters in costume acting weird. However we assured him they were actually nutters who showed up to all the midnight movies. So, the movie begins and all is good until the scene where Tim Curry makes his appearance at which point all hell broke loose. He stands up, starts screaming at the movie every single gay slur you could imagine, starts spitting on the floor and runs out. Man was he pissed and man were we rolling on the ground...he was better than the show it was so damn hilarious. BTW, that homophobic friend, well, he came out of the closet almost thirty years, a wife, and four kids later.